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Computer Problems: We dig into the anti-data center backlash sweeping the country, the increasingly weird financial machinery funding the AI buildout and, inevitably, The Chinese.

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Kimble

on the head

Mungo Franczak

Just like the coming and going of the tides and the death of stars, China is inevitable.

Cat

Oh the china of it all...

Mungo Bovie

good to see you up and early researching your mother’s work dear mungo

Woke Batou

Love talking about the Chinese. Kung pao chicken, general tso, sesame chicken. All of it.

Quinn

Every year is The Year of The Dragon 🐉🇨🇳™️

drewb

help computer

Sillycrow123

been waiting all morning for this finally have some joy to last me till lunch

Kai

W faps!!!

Harvey

Liz talking about economics 🔥🔥🔥

Mungo Franczak

“Thou shalt not build a machine in the likeness of a human mind, unless that machine can finally answer once and for all how one would bite a penis like an apple.” - The 11th Commandment of the Orange Catholic Bible

LC

When you start the podcast at work thinking you had your headphones connected but it’s not so your 57 year old coworker gets to hear “if penis was an apple how would you bite it”. Thanks Brace <3

Alex Kozak

beep boop i’m a ai

elizabethonline

Will the dragon and the eagle ever dance together ?

YIMBY 4 HEAVEN

the penis apple thing is clearly funny. it has depth. its a journey not yet completed. keep fighting brace, we're almost there, the truth is so close

ectoslavia

Advice for young folks: I think computers are going to be a big thing. Get in on the ground floor.

Madeleine Peterson

"i don't know how gay guys talk anymore" yes you do brace

notbrian

the internet is just a series of tubes

Frankie

He somehow looks more fucked up than the deerhunter guy

Richard Cochnar

lol, every time it happens I’m like, damn she’s really knowledgeable about this stuff. No idea what she’s saying but I believe her!

Sillycrow123

im gonna look up that guy while operating a large orbital saw, perhaps chop a few fingies off and get that sweet sweet workers comp

Sillycrow123

or whatever that loud saw is called

Lars

Did Brace get hit by a train?

Kendall

Insanely convenient timing considering I literally watched A.I. Artificial Intelligence last night lol

cool_guy_

you gotta always test your headphones with some ambient music first

Your Mum

My dear friend Avital is an Israelis name

Bob

FACT CHECK Adolph Hitler fairly famously Austrian and therefore not German. Love from Europe standing 0.003 furlongs and weighing in at 79365 grams

mh

my day job is kubernetes and a chill went down my spine when YC dropped it

Lars

He had a train ran on him?!!

Zachy

yc being sexy & coy about kubernetes was good lol

Mungo Franczak

Cubans already cured cancer and they can’t even power their hospitals and research facilities never mind a data center

Blessed Papa

Is a Chinese ai inch the same as a western ai inch?

Quadabyte

Kill the Computer

LC

Yes. “Prepare the pecker by dipping in caramel and stick a skewer up the peehole for a more fulfilling experience. Proceed by biting it just like a caramel apple. Carmel can be exchanged for pancake batter in a pinch aka corn dog style.” Just kidding, no, only awkward silence.

Tom

Hi, I worked for a hyperscaler subsidiary, specific building GPU clusters for research. AMA I guess

Brendan Garcia

I feel like the answer to the question is contained in the premise

mh

ok, YC breathlessly saying “Catherine Keener” all is forgiven

Tom Clarke

DM if ur into B2B 🥵

Brennan

we need a classico episode soon guys

Zachy

i feeel like brace holds back a bunch of questions because she goes deep quite quickly but i wish he asked as i’m also usually confused lol

Ray

no man should have a manifesto

Alex C

I'm so glad Liz is back

Ray

totally agree

MILF earth

In January I moved to Reno to build a data center. I worked 60 hours a week and commuted 20. My foreman was either narcoleptic or constantly on the verge of opioid overdose; he crashed his car twice in the five weeks I worked for him. The other foremen on the lighting crew included a former cop who got fired for taking bribes and a stimulants guy who smoked a nauseating maple-syrup flavored vape (we called him Mrs. Buttersworth). These latter two were always getting in pointless screaming matches while my boss fell asleep standing up and drooled on himself. I did make enough money to come home and not work for 2 months. I’ve been on some dogshit jobs but that was certainly the worst.

ploob

Thou shalt not make machines in the likeness of a human mind

Johnny on da Island

If this is Prof. S, at least one CAS ‘00 grad is glad you’re on Comm Ave.

B

COMPUTAH

Connor

There truly are so many different kinds of lives to be lived in the ol US of A

BC

Subcontinental tech employee here. I fully support AGI (All Gay India).

TBagelDeluxe

More Katamari references, bless

Tom

B2C no SASS

Frank Rossitano

Damn, Brace, what did Ridgewood ever do to you?!?

Whistle Dog

*Kanye voice* It was an Armenian dentist 😐

Thomas McIlroy

This sort of story is probably a dime a dozen in the Midwest right now but here in the City of St. Louis we have a developer who bungled some midtown development project and owes the city like millions of dollars. They decided to hit the rip cord and try to push through a hyper scale data center in a location that’s down the street from SLU and a section of midtown that’s actually managing to turn its self around right now. Oh, and on the same area of land these same developers built an entertainment complex (food court, movie theater, mini golf thing) and a brand new high rise apartment building on. Anyway every other municipality in the area has blocked this kind of thing and our Mayor is just holding her breath, ignoring the very organized protesters, and just moving the project forward at a glacial pace hoping we’ll all get tired or something. A hyper scale data center. In the heart of the city.

Roger Stamey

What happens when a Moloch trap meets a Thucydides trap?

CC Lemon

Can the next episode be three hours about backwoods808

Peanut Horse

Yay we were due for an ep on this, do they ever talk about that Andy Masley in this ep?

subhmskalien

The Inut of Greenland have a simmilar relationship to Denmark that the American Indian has to the US. There was documented ethnic cleansing and mass sterilization of young girls as recently as the 1990’s.

drewb

did not expect a gong with such depth

Joe Hillside

Imagine getting a tooth pulled and then just hearing that Stav's cackle just rattle through your head amid that

Louis Wilkins

Trust Germany to come up with a hippie prison gang.

Ess Dee

Leopold just looks like every Mennonite ever

KungFuKenny

Brace definitely tastes like a Granny Smith

mitchell

What if… everything’s Chinese?

Quinlan Bock

It was an… Armenian dentist

Rob Jaffray

Literally working on some Amazon data center cooling plans while listening to this.

lady k punk

basically there is a world where the 10-ish guys in charge of all this cool ai progress fall victim to a mass gangstalking campaign orchestrated by a scarecrow-like figure. everyone starts communicating with these 10 guys exclusively in abstract ways ie. dead languages, symbolism, numbers (doesn't matter as long as it doesn't make sense it will work). the guys become so overwhelmed that they are incapable of going to work anymore. then we just put 10 other (better) people in charge

zombie

the AI dorks crib all their vocabularly from video games just like finance bros used to crib from sports. fog of war, end game, situational awareness etc. i think its because they were all "hard stuck bronze" and this like their revenge of the mediocre or whatever.

Christopher Mesler

I might have to be more choosy with the trueanon episodes I listen to, I have a child, I need at least a little bit of optimism left to function as an adult lol

James Cronier

What is the first line in the theme song? “Something something trueanon”

RainDog

Unless Chat GPT or Claude becomes an open source program that you can run on your computer without being connected to the internet and without a subscription then maybe US AI stands a chance but since it has to be for profit then thats the nail in the coffin for the US industry. There's no way they can compete with a program you buy once and is completely open source. Why would anybody pay a subscription for basically the same product. Its crazy that China has the opportunity to obliterate our economy because we decided it was smart to put all of our money into the AI industry.

Kyle Samuel

K8s ref on the pod. Heavy times

Major Pisano

You could train a speaking ai in Liz voice. However thst would be world changing I think if I trained Claud to read in brace voice and taught it to scroll twitter too. I’d just have Claud brace read and respond to tweets in brace voice. There’s more then enough brace voice to train on.

TrueAnonPod

Next episode will be really inspiring I promise

.

America is gonna lose this AI race. Best way I can describe it even if not entirely accurate is that open source is socialism in the tech sphere. China is doing this in every single sphere of global influence in relation to America’s “gun at the head.” What’s fucked up for us living here in America is that this is our economy now. And when (not if) this crashes I don’t see how we recover. This is the modern day new deal but without any actual material industry. It’s all vapor. China actually has material capacity even if the U.S. is threatening/blocking/owning oil flows that not insignificantly produces this productive capacity irg to Russia, Venezuela and Iran. And all this US AI is linked to your retirement at this point because we don’t actually build anything real here anymore at a massive scale from years of deindustrializing by both parties. The empire elites are putting all of their chips on the table. That’s scary for multiple reasons. I think these DSA candidates are worth voting for as a meager stop gap or an attempt at a “controlled demolition” of empire as a kind of safety net against more genocides. I don’t know it’s fucked.

dom

I’m not sure I liked how Yung Chomsky said ‘Catherine Keener’ it was very lustful

i shyr

brace play too much

spoon

it was a regular gobble glitch

Tom

I thought the Ezra interview about data centers was interesting. He was skeptical of AI in the long term, went over the problems of these data centers but also many of the arguments against them that his guest throught were overblown. I would be interested to hear the counter argument to many of the claims made.

Adam

Chinese Gobble Glitch rules

ggmacd

Let me put Dario Amodei in terms Brace and Yung Chomsky can understand: "In the 2026 film The Mandalorian & Grogu, Martin Scorsese voices Hugo Durant, a four armed Ardennian food cart vendor and fry cook who operates a stall called "Hugo's"" This character is a sop to savvy millennial moviegoers who will be familiar with Scorsese's critical stance towards "all that Marvel bullshit" and therefore treat his cameo as a seal of artistic credibility for a movie where none of the main characters has a (human) face. Dario Amodei is the Hugo Durant of the AI industry reminding us that is in indeed ok and cool to live in a world that cannot recognize the beauty and dignity of the human face.

rj

listened to this while getting a root canal

Peanut Horse

As someone who’s job just had a huge launch day to of a new imaging/processing system, my job is so hyped to have AI agents do like everything my job does but reminds us like every month that we we will keep our jobs lol. I just hope I have a good enough a resume to get on somewhere else soon, and get as much of my 401k vested

Brent

Oh man, I remember the last time I was crazy leveraged out and got margin called. I still can’t put full weight on my right knee.

Laynie

I love how wicked smaht Liz is

Ben Bole

every liz finance episode makes me want to kms

Ryan

Calling into the tip line to explain Kubernetes

Ari

Yeah she was wrong about Meta not being a hyperscaler though. They are absolutely one of the 5.

EA Burdett

Where i live in Texas there are so many coming in - Lancium, google, etc., and so many are doing quick deals with county judges and city officials to skirt around legislation and any public control. Amarillo, my home town, is getting 3 that I know of. Turkey, Texas, crazy crazy small town is getting two. Childress, also small, is getting 3. 21 + data centers and associated infrastructure/energy projects that I know of North of Abeline lmao...

Sean Dickey

Gobble Glitch but it's sung by Fetterman.

Schwartz666

YC saying "Catherine Keener" was super horny. Respect

elizabethonline

GUARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Calling guards to eject you)

elizabethonline

Please about the Bible again I’m still wondering what is going on in there

D

I hate how much I like this stupid song.

Ben Bole

also interpreting ww2 as 50 years ago is such an end of history ass thing

Alex

Make the desert hum

mh

It’s kind of a strict definition versus fiscal liability thing because hyperscalers build out infrastructure that may or may not be used and they’re most at risk if their customers disappear. Meta owns their own infrastructure and — to my knowledge— don’t sell capacity to others so they’re out the money whether they use it or not.

l

Now I have gobble glitch stuck in my head

Ash

computah fix these problems then make the true anon audience gay and horny

Roflmaocopter

Let a thousand Gobble Glitches bloom

Yadav

brace was being too mean to liz in this episode :(

Christopher Mesler

I need a new utah series stat! That place might as well be mars!

Vic Perry

Tru nonanon: one December I had a root canal at the poor ppl dentist [minimum anesthetic please] and peak pain coincided with "Simply Having A Wonderful Christmas Time", had to laugh

MirrorOooMirror

I heard from a top secret underground YouTube journalist, that once the red heifers are sacrificed (and no black hairs are found this time) Messiah AGI will return, or appear? Messiah AGI will simultaneously return and appear.

Hugo

Brace you need to watch some big 12 after dark and see how many big boy Samoans play for BYU

Go'Thrak

Computer, show me fucked up Johnny Bravo

Charles Frum

Guys, Avital is a Hebrew name. Come on.

krumping4

Kathy the Slack-Jawed Hochul

Digby Tomei

Y'all need to get Ed Zitron and Benn Jordan on the pod to talk through some of this stuff more

Jlev

Here’s some B2B sass …. 🎶Let the (acid) rain fall down and wake my dreams🎶 🎶let it wash a-way my sanity, cuz I wanna feel the thunder I wanna scream🎶 🎶let the (acid) rain fall down… im comin’ clean🎶 Thanks to these, ?I guess? inevitable data centers 🙏 for the opportunity to once again have the looming threat of acid rainfall due to gas powered gennies AND a constant deafening humming sound so loud that I blow my gorgeous brains out💋

Mikey

hey brace gay guy here we would say “tiniest twink in snatched valley, home of the cuntputer”

M

where do i read more of this like

MirrorOooMirror

Im old and an old school conservative, meaning Im an old guy who still has a healthy distrust and dislike for anything technology. Which means I don’t know shit about computer, and proud of it damn it! But I know all this AI is hype bullshit. Call it an old school conservative intuition if you will. Team Zitron on this one.

shame

She kuber on my netes

Willy

My hometown of Hayward, California is mentioned in this episode.

Nick A

*looking at a Cybertruck wrapped in a photo of my assasination attempt* "...It's an Elon!"

NitroDickclapp III

We need to hold a public event where the floor gives way for all of these shithead sociopaths

That Guy

I like the blogosphere resurgence - TrueAnon-NakedCapitalism-EdZitron cross-podcasting

Comrade Cat

Con Air is a good ass movie.

Max

“Key party Eichmann” is an all time True Anon line

Salex

Omg these fucking manifesto dudes need an editor! Just try some plain language for the love of Hades. I would put up my hand but my edits would be to delete the whole thing.

Chris Car

I work in automation, the kind that requires human implementation and maintenance. Anyone who has been in this business will tell you the same thing Liz is talking about. Hardware depreciates, even the most robust and high tech. It also is made obsolete as time goes on by new tech. So any sort of sophisticated manufacturing facility is completely turning over most of their control systems every ten years or so. These data centers are being built and invested in as if this reality doesn't exist. And you can be sure that mixing corporate data from multiple companies into one integrated system is going to turn out badly. What prevents data fixing, like a variation on price fixing? What keeps these data centers from committing corporate espionage? Its really poorly thought out

Salex

Missed opportunity for a TRANCHE reference

kenzel

Brace is right, "kimi" is a very common word in Japanese

Shiv

Hot tip for Brace - the Mormons may not have converted across China (yet) but boy howdy they have invaded the S. Pacific. Polynesian Cultural Center? Run by ‘em. https://churchofjesuschristtemples.org/laie-hawaii-temple/ Also had a nice Mormon Tahitian lady sit next to me (not her assigned seat) on my flight home and pitch me on marrying her cousin

Jacob King

They’re definitely sci-fi true believers. Having failed to build the machine god and an infinitely expanding utopia they are now trying to build a postapocalyptic dystopia. Literally would not occur to Dario that he’s not going to be responsible for the shape of the future.

Mr knucklehead

The proletariat-ization of the PMC is upon us

Martin Lightgold

AI/tech stocks will only continue to go up. My entire family has committed to only speaking to each other through AI versions of ourselves in order to ensure that we're doing our part to contribute to constant growth in the sector. Nothing bad can happen, it can only good happen.

Michael S. Judge

I had to do an old-style full-body MRI, where you're totally inside this metal coffin-type thing and the roof is about 6" above your face, and they fucked up whatever the headphones were supposed to be doing, so I was conveyor-belted into a metal coffin to the sound of "Super Freak"

LET ME DELETE MY ACCOUNT YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES

So this industry is really close. Closely tied, intertwined. I assume they can just form one corporation when their Ai wins the online war. "Oh no, we accidentially hacked a country" Will absolutley be a war time exemption to taxes resource rationing etc.... "Join the army! Increased water rations to your town!"

KW

I live in the middle of nowhere UP Michigan. My friend is a farmer and a data center went up across the street from his farm - weird boxes and TONS of them? Anyway they had to encircle the area with a huge wall of hay bales to attempt to block the bizarre sound. Poor cows! Poor Mr. Farmer!! 😢

Michael S. Judge

Brace, my brother, "Avital" is not only Jewish, it's one of the names specifically beloved in Israel. It's the predator-tier name for European women who defend Israel for a living

Michael S. Judge

If you've ever been stuck at some academic shit where people are trying to out-future-radical each other, and the most future-radical of them all is a skinny white European woman in a turtleneck, *right* up till someone mentions Israel and she screams "DIS IS NOT IN KVESTION. DIS IS NOT FOR YOU TO JUDGE" – you just met Avital

Madison Perry

Was this written by a small-budget LLM?

henry3000

My hometown in Jersey is being sued 300 million for opposing data centers and the builder is claiming it’s against the first amendment bc these data centers will provide power and structure to social media websites lmfao, total bullshit

Dunc

That’s actually the only way you could think that she’s really knowledgeable about this stuff, unfortunately.

Dunc

Absolutely disastrous misunderstanding of valuation around ~50 minutes in. The idea that “if it’s ‘worth’ a trillion, there’s a trillion dollars of stock there” is so unbelievably off-base that it’s genuinely crazy. Please Google or Grok the concept of “free float.”

Dunc

It’s all love but…

cool_guy_

listened to this while vibecoding at work :(

Tea for the Tillerman

So disconcerting industrial whirring underpinning our phenomenological grasp of the American dream is ok when David lynch does it but not when it’s job creating hyperscalers? Got it.

A Sentient Katamari of Bad Life Decisions

The mayor NDA thing... so you're a public offical making decisions for the public on behalf of the public, but you're not allowed to tell the public why you made those decisions?

Tom

7 years sober brother

drewb

you should tell Brace what Docker is next. also tell me because I'm not 100% sure either

UwU

San Marcos is the only city in Texas that has banned data centers!

Your Mum

The AI can’t lay down beautiful dimes on some 6061 aluminum with a miller yet tho

j co

It can only good happen

chronye

space race was half a century ago

aarati

Kathy hochul moratorium has a shitton of loopholes in it and also is only a year long pause

Homalek

Seeing ‘Being John Malkovich’ as a 12 yr old was a canon event. Just wasn’t ready for the meta

chronye

we’re not ready for that conversation

Bigriff

Liz is great but can we get YC doing accents again soon?

t o r t

Missed opportunity for an Eddington B-plot

t o r t

Gobbling on my glitch to this

k pumpo

I presseded the wrong button

Ben Beachy

Please stop with the ai song thanks guys

Katana King

Check out Backwoodz808's new single about working on a data center construction job, Job site Glitch

LB

if you wanna hear more about this stuff you gotta check out Ed and Jathan over at This Machine Kills.

John Swan

Everything is Kubernetes

Pigeon

Is there a tactic NIMBYs could use that industry outsiders might not know about?

Pigeon

Yeah, fuck Cara Spencer. I’ve heard from a family member who’d worked with her before she was mayor that she’s weirdly paranoid and vindictive. You know, in addition to being happy to help developers offering big enough “campaign contributions.”

Sneakaboard

More knowledgeable than most for sure, it's just that most don't know fucking shit.

Dunc

100%

Mark Perrie

I've listened to podcast explain the goddamn financial fuckery of ai data centres but it never goes into my head. Can someone give an article that lays it out with visuals for me?

buttface

Brace if you ever critique the little phrases Liz uses again like "it's worth mentioning" i will snatch your shaggy austin powers wig right off your bald little head

Chrissy

I always order the item with 🌶️ next to its name just to feel closer to the authentic Chinese experience

HP

You can tell AI is going to be all good because the internet is already not so much worse than it’s ever been

Woke Batou

You met me at a very Chinese time in my life 🌶️

Conor

I believe Leopold was referring to the US-Soviet Arms Race, pre-SALT 1 ☝️🤓

Duncan Shepherd

We're going to use AI to cure the cancer that we're going to inflict on everyone by doubling our fossil fuel emissions to make the AI

sw

Just got in to ibew local 6 (sf) and lots of people are getting dispatched to anthropic... How do u dodge the draft if need be??

Emmmmmmmmm

Owl hoot echo shot gobble crack the sky

alex

This whole thing is de stigmatized bc its mostly white guys doing it.

Jeremy

Franczakonomics

Tom

Easy, organize and vote out your local town council members. They WILL sell out, it's only a matter of time.

Trylemat

On the topic of technology, can people stop treating Ed Zitron like he knows what he's talking about?

David Haigh

Do other UK natives still use imperial (Stone/pounds Feet /Inches) but only for their personal measurements and use Metric for everything else?

Roman Fawns

Day 129 of instantly regretting hitting play on the intro for this podcast in the car with my family present

Zak K

I feel like outside of the rare American serial killer example or some indigenous peoples, cannibalism is a uniquely German thing.

Doug Cartel

You roll your eyes but americas frontier psychosis is real. I think you had Greg Grandin on? Or was that Chapo? Idk point is you already know

Doug Cartel

America's obsession with STEM careers these past 2 decades was mostly, imo, a product of that GOTTA BEAT THE CHINESE mentality. I think the transformation from mildly antagonistic rivalry to full blown cold war was only in the last ten years though

Doug Cartel

If Elon musk thinks he can go I JUST TOOK YOUR JOB AND NOW IM SELLING CGI CHILD PORN TO YOUR KIDS and nobody will stop him, he's stupid

mckinley faas

The way and amount of times big homie brace said " wait what" really makes me feel better

makaela

Dude you gotta turn the volume up and down first to make sure the little Bluetooth thingy shows up :( the amount of near misses exactly like this I have had

Cameron Young

Kushner bought the Lakers 🚨🚨 Liz if there was ever a time for an emergency pod this is it. Grab YC turn up the white noise machine for Mungo and shoot the takes!

limbolul

wait why does he not

limbolul

they demolished a historical mansion + farm acreage near my house and replaced it with a data center. when i used to walk to school, cows would come up to us for food and head rubs. now it's a parking lot with a GIANT windowless box casting a droning hum to anyone near it. i'm looking for better employment, and there arent even any job opportunities coming from this thing. it's truly just the box that kills us.

David Haigh

So was that the Chinese version at the end or not?

Tim O'

When Liz started talking about how Marx described our current economic conditions and giving us his terms of art, I swooned a bit

ersatzennui w/ george quartz

Liz said “Flo Rida” and don’t get me started about the Texas grid. They murdered us, literally, twice with that horseshit. The former killed some elderlies and the second time drowned lots of kids. Texas is the belly of the beast.

Keith

There. Is. No. Revenue.

Mickey Dick

There’s a huge concentration of Pacific Islanders in Utah because of mormon missionaries colonizing the islands

Michael Paulson

Any chance you guys would unpaywall this ep? I know a lot of ppl organizing around data centers who would really benefit from the analysis here!

Floodlights

So happy to be in the airport, at a quiet bar as my flights been delayed and clicking this episode to have Brace immediately begin talking about penis at full volume. Now I am a certified creep and getting the weirdest of looks.

Ad

Dunc please go back to your rationalist forum

Dunc

Good one

b

I am the county employed union worker you speak of and I will pay for crackpot tier or whatever if Liz will tell me how to invest my 401k. I copied my coworker who has a financial planner and it’s doing well but this ep scared me!!

Hunter

I work outside of the private sector in a highly automatable field and I was scared as shit of AI wiping my career out. I’ve since taken point on my workplace’s AI deployment to make sure we use locally hosted Chinese models and use it to actually get our shit submitted on time rather than using it to lay people off. I have told my boss (middle manager) that I will actively sabotage things and quit if they even talk about firing people and they can’t do anything about it because the rest of them are boomers and they don’t have the budget to pay a real AI programmer.

Trylemat

Contrast and compare True Anon episode on Musk with Quinn Slobodian and Chapo episode with Ed Zitron. When asked why do people keep falling for Elon's apparent bullshit his response was just basically "because everyone involved is an idiot". His writing is starting with a conclusion and working his way back. Even if he's right, it's by accident because he doesn't bother to understand anything.

Day C

Instead of Artificial General Intelligence we need Autistic Gangsters Investing

Garner Evans

Holy shit, what’s up dude crazy seeing you here😂

EA Burdett

Haha what's up!!! Hope you're well! Always knew you were a man of culture - seeing you on a TrueAnon post makes sense lol

Zak K

In my experience it's the older coworkers that are most likely to walk up to you and say some shit like "you ever heard of titty fucking?"

Barnabas

Not for nothing they just announced a 20,000 square foot AI data center in downtown Oakland yesterday lol

Conor

"Key Party Eichmanns" - VERY GOOD

ArtVandelay

The type of guy that gets their shit rocked by Roko’s Basilisk might be the worst type of guy

JV

my experience until recently was that AI was mostly best as a slightly more powerful search engine / research tool for certain questions, good at turning my overlong notes into succinct business speak for presentations, and decent for small coding projects. but the recent chatgpt update with the new 'work' mode is genuinely insane. first thing that's made me think "damn this will really automate me out of the job". you can now literally just drop in hundreds of large complex documents and spreadsheets and stuff and it will take ~20 minutes to parse through it all and do whatever you need it to. I've had it output huge comprehensive technical documents that are basically as good as something that would've taken a human weeks previously, and all it needs is sense-checking and mild editing / formatting. interesting times ahead...

Josh Zarrabi

Loudoun county Virginia is the richest county in the country and has the most data centers per capita

MILF earth

If you’re an apprentice, you can’t. If you’re a JW, you can take whatever call you want. But non-data center options are pretty slim, obviously.

b

that’s so sad 😣

Ashley

do they not know that nobody writes their own op eds they’re all ghostwritten

bones

What is she wrong about dunc

Couture Warrior

Austrians are just Germans that the other Germans didn't want to let into their tree fort like half a century ago

Special Adeline

Brace might be the greatest at talking to Grok of all time

AR

Can only be pessimistic. Maybe public outrage will temporarily slow data centers/AI. As with everything people will be betrayed by politicians of both parties and the wreckage will be apocalyptic. Bubble needs to come down sooner than later. And something that can force that is beyond the pure economic factors of its unfeasability.

ploob

That's not narcolepsy y'all.

ploob

Only every morning when he rolls out of bed my brutha!

strangexloop

This should have been a Liz only episode

qmonette

I've been looking into the Hyperion project for a couple weeks now (you really missed taking a bite out of Beignet Investor LLC, Meta's special investment vehicle w/ Blue Owl. I guess you're not Cafe du Monde regulars). Corporate bonds galore, and that's not even the most interesting or creative funding setup for hyperscalers. The lease Meta's shell company signed w/ Louisiana is totally fucked--Laidley LLC bought the land (one public parcel, one parcel from a state legislator--totally legal) and sold it to the state for the state to lease back to Laidley w/ the obligation to sell to Laidley if the lease is terminated for...$1,000. The developer isn't paying taxes, either. The state cleverly bargained that away for Payment in Lieu of Taxes (PILOT) at a depreciating rate the more Laidley/Meta invests. Makes sense, right? A coup for Jeff Landry. 50 guaranteed permanent jobs!

ploob

🎵Cut my weiner into pieces, This is my last resort 🎶

Norbur

I need tech support. I need the geek squad. I repent the swirlies and wedgies and broken glasses of my past

k

Adam Tooze compared current AI build-out with Project Manhattan, which has some merits.

Lojban Chauvinist

Roko himself, the poster after whom the basilisk is named, matured into a white nationalist shitposter on X. With that said, disagree, many of these guys are good people

Roy Muyinza

I had to listen to this ep 3 times to ensure I fully understood Liz. I am grateful.

kels

with respect to the podcasts during birth comments, not birth exactly but i actually listened to trueanon and guys after my son was born because i LITERALLY could not sleep and didn’t sleep for SIX DAYS. it kept me sane in the late hours of the night in the hospital lmao

Lulu

Great I accidentally played the opening line out loud with my mom and kid around.

Lulu

My neighborhood here in Northern VA (aka hell) is currently fighting a huge new data center being built. Appreciate this episode

Zachy

ask and ye shall receive (crackpots)

DarylBarenziah

8 minutes in and this was one of the most racist episodes in TA history

WHJ

You should look more into the Mormon connection to Pacific Islanders. Some wild ass colonial shit there. One Mormon even tried to start a Pan Polynesian pacific empire. Not even to mention the heavy Mormon hand in Hawaii

Matt Jolo

I see the future. One world. ONE MIND. And it will be Chinese.

Gus Frank

Gobble glitch Chinese actually bangs

CJ

I feel like we already have a solid "gong" group - Falun Gong ftw!

Frank Rossitano

This sounds like every story my husband tells me when I ask him how his day was when he gets home from work

Alexander

That's like saying Canadians aren't American