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Liz and Brace go long to offer critical support to Julian Assange, explain the ridiculous showtrial of the political prisoner, the war crimes of the United States and the curious media blackout surrounding Wikileaks.

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the empty suit

this is a late comment but I transcribed it (edit: in the reply to this comment)

the empty suit

"There was never any support back then, when these leaks came out. There was never any support, you know, it was completely blacklisted. And there's always been, like you say, a convenient reason to disparage Assange and WikiLeaks, either because of shifting goalposts, like we said, about the meaning of journalism and, you know, whether or not he's publishing or a "journalist" or what that means or all this kind of, like, bullshit or his own political views or gossip about his personal life or whatever the fuck... And all of it, all of that shit, all it does is do the work of state power to de-legitimate WikiLeaks and turn Assange into a pariah, which has happened. You know, none of it has anything to do with the fact that, and I keep repeating, that every single thing he has published is true! The same cannot be said about anybody at MSNBC, The New York Times, Fox News, CNN, or The Washington Post. So, apparently, there is no solidarity for political prisoners of the state. But this is what fucking gets me; none of these cowards are going to be persecuted. None of them. All of these people that are shaking in their boots — like Chris Hayes, you're shaking in the boots — you're fine! Who's going to prosecute you, the fucking government that you parrot the lines of? The government that you continue to let have advance notice of the story that you're saying, in case there's anything they wouldn't like you to publish? The 'anonymous' intelligence sources you continue to give cover to? The bullshit partisan hackery you spit out night after night after night? What state secrets are you revealing? What actual journalistic work are you doing? Like, this is why we call journalists scum. Like, motherfucker, you are the mouthpiece of the state! The government needs you to sell their lies. You are the one who obfuscates power, you aren't expendable, you are the one who is necessary. You aren't going anywhere, you fucking tool. And these assholes, the ones who guarantee their prime time TV slots by molding their views and their voice into what the networks and their corporate overlords and the bankers and the U.S. government and all its spooky apparatchiks want you to hear, these are not the people who will be persecuted. No, they get promotions. They get awards, they get celebrated, they get retweeted, and liked, and byline and byline and byline; they climb the ranks and they shape the shit that is now permanently lodged in your fucking brain that they pathetically sell to you as "the news" and you've pathetically convinced yourself is the truth. No, the people who get persecuted are anyone who dares question the United States war machine, who dares reveal: any of the coups, the assassinations, the inner workings of the security apparatus, the well-funded networks of fucking so-called democratic political power, the abuse that millions suffer at the hands of the U.S. military and all the paid-off NGOs, the corporations, the warlords, the cartels; the sexual abuse, the rape, the murder, the towns that we bomb to oblivion, the countries that we sell off to the highest bidder, and all the governments that we demolish. Like, what we do every day, every day, every day... And those are the people that will be prosecuted, you know. People like Chris Hayes have fucking secured their spot. They're not going to be attacked, he is not going to be arrested. And now they sit back and fucking feign concern for Assange; "Oh, what this means, for the free press! Oh, no! What this means!" This has nothing to do with Assange or WikiLeaks or anything WikiLeaks has revealed! This is about the media's precious industry which is dying, ironically, because of the very corporations that they continue to cover for, that are eating the news rooms alive. And you know what? The public is right to fucking despise you. They are right to despise you for the obvious bootlicking and all your brazen career-ism, for years of covering up all the lies and all the obfuscation of how real power operates in this country; selling the wars and the PR campaigns of the State Department and running fucking interference for the bankers and all the politicians bought off by the bankers who stole all the jobs and all the homes and all the fucking futures out from under the world. How many bloggers, who are now calling themselves aspiring journalists — or, I guess, what you'd now call "professional opinion-havers" — how many out there look up to Chris Hayes or the Chris Hayeses of the world and their career arc? How many stare longingly at the fucking New York Times op-ed page, at the shiny bylines and the prestige publishers, at the fucking social power that comes with the fawning adulation of their peers jealous of their little positions in the clout hierarchy of the media machine? How many of these content producers, editors, self-appointed political taste-makers, take-havers, tweeters — and, guess what, yes, fucking podcasters — how many of them just want these precious fucking spots? Like, what would they do? What would they do? What do you think the would do? What do you think they would sell you to get one of those spots? Do they even fucking realize when they do it? But how many of them, now, actually look to [Julian Assange]? How many of them will even fucking publicly support the guy who is literally, currently, being tortured — who will die of starvation, or maybe madness, or maybe he'll just simply be kicked in the fucking skull in the damp basement of a supermax prison in the middle of fucking nowhere — because he dared to temporarily embarrass our highest-ranking officials and mildly inconvenience the functionaries of the American empire's unstoppable machine? Who are you going to fucking look to?"

Adam Ahmed

Wow. Thank you very much for transcribing that. Made my day reading it and thinking about this great episode.

Rose K

Killing Hope by William Blum and Endless Holocausts by David Michael Smith

Khemith

This episode is fucking fire. I’ve been in solitary confinement for a year. You lose your mind

Lars

Listening in 2025. "If this is a taste of the future, baby, then I want out" - Brace. Nobody tell him 🥲

Josh

The tag for WikiLeaks is spelled wrong (wikilieaks)

BG

Mr. Fireworks knocking it out of the park again.

Matelda

I begging you to stop making the same joke that you had sex with every female mentioned

Lou

personally, i think brace should have more sex with heinous, powerful women

Matelda

I don't care if he does, just shut up about it

Lou

if you want a podcast where people don't have realistic discussions about beautiful male-female love, then go listen to cumtown

Matelda

I knew I would get oinked at by hogs for this comment

Matelda

I hope they see this bro

Carly Wack

Bad move kid *tightens shoulder holster*

Keir

Hate to say it, but Brace is pronouncing "avant garde" correctly

Charlotte

“Weeping Angel” is a really scary episode of Doctor Who

Charlotte

Never change Brace

Aaron

Brace’s avant garde pronunciation is the right one.

lint_ax

Goddamn Liz, go offffff

s

"in european prisons you get to have a playstation" that piece of trivia rings a norwegian bell

Ryan Delaney

One if if not the best yet. Thank you!

Gregory Francis

So now you're promoting genocide-denialists. Good job, Liz.

Sydney

👍👍👍👍👍

Sam Burton

Clip Liz's Chris Hayes monologue and inject it into my, or preferably his, veins.

Stephen Wells

Asylum is under attack, but so is national sovereignty.

Riley

There’s actually a cheap rose called whispering angel

Sardonic

Goddamn Liz is powerful here

Gregory Francis

You guys are great when discussing the sins of the War on Terror only to then promote a blog that goes out of its way to lie on behalf of the Chinese government's literal fucking genocide of Uighurs and Kazakhs in Xinjiang.

Sean

TrueAnon: the worlds only anti-operator podcast

yerrak

Damn queen, go awf

gatito

The imagery there is just absolutely awful. You look away/stop paying attention and suddenly it’s observing you...

prof. eucalyptus

prime, classic, true True anon, strong vibe and strong ep

Dongo

I always assumed it was called weeping angel because cia people are dr who fans

Michael S. Judge

+ Adelson & Jedgar 100% put at least one rent boy thru an industrial shredder at a construction site

Colin Helpio

That final Liz rant was out of this world

Pace

It is not related but I really hope you all do an epi that touches on Lyme disease at some point

Seda

radio war nerd has an episode on lyme disease, #190

Jesse

Liz, Brace, love you guys. As astoundingly horrible and painful it is to hear about the tragic fate of Julian Assange, it strengthens my character and resolve to be a better person. Thank you for your work <3

Frederick Von Drasek

...I was always surprised that there wasn't more noise about the snotty little journalist whose car's electronics went crazy after he outed the generalissimo of black ops. I remember it as planting some of the seeds of rational conspiracy theory in my old head...

fbi social democrat

thanks for this. the grayzone crew are good ppl and them and kevin are the only ones really doing reporting on this case.

Gregory Francis

Why don't you make me, you genocide denying piece of shit.

Marian Dennis

Gotta say I chuckled at the thought of Brace in bed with Merkel. Highly disagree with this complaint.

polo bear

It’s weird that Liz constantly says that same joke. Like calm down no one asked

take5™

have u actually listened to the episode or no

Gregory Francis

Grayzone are genocide-denying propagandists.

Gregory Francis

If I didn't listen to the episode how would I know that Liz promoted Grayzone?

Ali

On Signal: The encryption offered by the app, which is strong, is immediately rendered useless if you can hack the device its running on. We already know they can do this to Android/IOS phones , with impunity, because of the Vault-7/Snowden leaks.

Andrew Rassling

They don't believe the US intelligence claims about their biggest geopolitical rival considering a long history of lying and several other incongruities. I'm only just getting clued into this stuff, but they're the only committed anti-imperialist American outlet that has major pull. If they're genocide denying propagandists what the FUCK are you gonna call MSNBC ignoring the US involvement in Yemen? To give just one of 100s of examples. FOH outta here.

Gene

Damn. Respect for this.

Joel

This was great guys, there's almost nothing about what's going on in Australia about what's happening to Assange

Matelda

There is a comment section on this app, so you calm down. And no she doesn't.

Joel

Stood up and clapped and saluted my laptop after Liz's monologue

Mark Owen

Joe Lauria at Consortium News has been doing daily updates on the trial.

Targnar

She was on fire! It was amazing.

Pete Seeger

This is so important, and Assange has been largely ignored not just by the media, but by many in the left. John Pilger has carried the torch in many ways, and I recommend his work, which spans like over four decades. I went back to look at contemporaneous news coverage on Assange’s arrest by the liberal media, and I think Bob Garfield’s April 12 2019 piece on Assange for On The Media exemplifies the overall coverage. Thank you Liz and Brace for doing this

Cameron Young

Liz just clamps the whole thing until all the blood runs out at the end.

deathofaclown (edited)

Comment edits

2026-09-09 19:00 asked my journalist friend about the situation and he said "he knowingly and willingly operated as a Russian government asset. that's about it."
2020-10-10 01:10

Jake Zydek

Bad Empanada's critique of Grayzone was pretty damn embarrassing, but more power to them for covering this.

Korey Samuel

Thank you so much for this. Liz went TF OFF

xxx_babyray_xxx

thank you so much, have been waiting for so long to hear what the trueanon gang have to say about assange and wikileaks- did not diappoint! <3 <3 <3

will h

neo-draconianism

Burat

Liz I will fucking follow you into battle after that monologue

saaffie

Thank you liz

Harry P. Ness

holy shit Liz hit Diamond I in this

DumbDumDumbDumb

Was there any good reporting specifically on the Swedish rape case against Assange? Wanted to learn more about how that panned out/petered off

DumbDumDumbDumb

Boo fuckin hoo, my empire's claims of another empire's genocide aren't being taken seriously

DumbDumDumbDumb

Lol tell your friend he's a Tom Clancy dumbass

QUARANTINE DREAM

Second that. Very important in restoring Assange's public image

Cameron Pasman

He's a bit cringe-inducing, but Richard Medhurst has done good reporting on Assange's "trial"

E.J. Rollins

A while back I made an online donation to Wikileaks, and my bank flagged the transaction as "suspicious activity".

Larry Lanza

one of the best episodes ever!

mrakobesiye

GIVE 👏 LIZ 👏 A 👏TALK 👏 RADIO 👏 PROGRAM

james

This one if fucking next level man, y'all keep up the fucking good work

Gregory Francis

The genovide of Uyghurs and Kazakhs being an invention of the US government requires believing that their diaspora is 100% in on the grift. Where are the people in the diaspora saying "knock it off, this is humiliating, stop exploiting our people. The situation for Uighurs and Kazakhs in Xinjiang is fine." Those voices don't exist, instead we get incredibly consistent reports of escalating persecution.

Gregory Francis

Much of the research going into the situation in Xinjiang comes straight from the Chinese government which has spent years going from "none of this is happening" to "well, some of its happening but we just passed a law making it all legal" to "yeah, it's happening, but they deserve it. Grayzone claiming that all the evidence comes from Adrian Zenz is simply bullshit. And let me ask: in a world where the claims of what is going on in Xinjiang are all lies, would it be possible that there wouldn't be a single member of the Uighur diaspora calling it out as humiliating bs? Do you honestly think the CIA is that good? Denying the thousands of Uighur voices that have offered testimonies to the persecution going in on in Xinjiang and saying it all flows back to one white guy with nutty religious beliefs is a pretty heinous colonialist-esque way of viewing the world.

Corey Jae White

Another killer ep, gang. Anyone got tips on any good books that cover the CIA's history of heinous shit? Preferably one book that covers a lot of things ('cause we all know there could be a fucking encylclopedia britannica's worth of volumes if you wanted to cover everything in detail).

Nat E

Liz went off in this one. Amazing monologue. A talent and an inspiration :)

Well aged meme

Yeah listened to that a couple times.

HATERSLAYER420

i really want to recommend you "Chaos" by Tom O'Neill, but I'm only 100 pages in and the CIA connections are kinda briefly mentioned and hazy thus far. so unless the subtitle ("Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties") and what i've heard about the book is complete bullshit, it's going to get even better, and god fucking damn is it already incredible. sorry this doesnt exactly fit the criteria but, you can just, ya know, ignore this lol

becks

(following)

Insights from Psych NP

Poisoner in Chief: Sidney Gottlieb and the CIA Search for Mind Control Book by Stephen Kinzer

Arielle Curtin

I would have liked you to mention role of sovereign rights of embassy (also Venezuelan embassy in DC) and how trampled by US. But as always, great show. #FreeAssange Modern Dreyfus Affair. A real turning point.

Jenny Boettiger

One of your best episodes to date. Liz's rant at the end was classic.

Jon

hell yeah liz, that was amazing. I hope hayes listened to this episode.

DumbDumDumbDumb

Tom Clancy is a mindset, it knows no borders

DumbDumDumbDumb

You gonna go do some John Brown shit in the prison camps? Cool! You gonna whine about media coverage and "promotion" of that media coverage on a podcast that isn't about the genocide? Shut the fuck up who cares!

Dara Higgins

Amazing episode. Liz ftw at the end.

Cory

Really appreciate this. A lot of alt media have been dropping the ball on Assange.

Ruthie

My brother who voted for Trump is really upset about this. We're achieving Materialism.

DH

Your friend isn't a journalist.

Adam Ahmed

Holy shit! That speech at the end of the episode was amazing and passionate. Is there a separate file or recording of just Liz’s speech at the end? I’d like to share it with some family and friends but don’t have faith they’ll sit through the whole episode.