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Trial day 10. Annie Farmer.

Listen to episode 67, our interview with Maria Farmer.

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Shiv

i never do this but, 5th!!

orc

6th!

Miss Lourdes

I remember when ep67 was new wow

Fuji Prince

Can we get a goodreads list from the three of yous?

Sam D Green

“Everyone’s gone to the movies. Now we’re alone at last”

J HUTCH

Marie throwing shade at TA lately on the bird app

Some Guy

Have Anderson or Mike seen the doc from this year about The Velvet Underground?

Elsie Hupp

Brace is with The Police? Is he friends with Sting?!?

Downtown Coyote

holy shit i want to end those pedophiles

Downtown Coyote

jeffery epstein didn't suffer enough as he died imo

grover

At 9:30 you don't say who Epstein purchased Jane #2 from to avoid revealing identifying information, but I'm 99% sure you said it in the last ep

Jameson .

No one ever has except the nazi who thought up the holocaust lol. They never do

Houston Ward

the guy in the nypd hat is "good lawgic" on youtube. A youtube lawyer that always wears that hat. He goes on all sorts of law utube bullshit

Houston Ward

I am so glad i knew something, no big deal tho

GolfBaller

Brace, you didn't have to say that this stud witness made you believe in love for everyone. That made me cry!

RyzomeRyan

'Supposed to be the trial of the century and the two of you are chatting about the chef at some fucking restaurant and Ghislaine' s outfit... This chick is gonna get off scot-free and it is no wonder... Her witchcraft is clearly more powerful than our weak-ass demands for justice in this case.

K

The NYPD hat guy is a lawyer on YouTube. He figured out that if he’s wearing the NYPD hat on the train, nobody bothers him about not wearing a mask Lol. He’s not Q. I already checked. https://youtu.be/YQ_KERb8BHw

HATERSLAYER420

are you being sarcastic? i get that the witchcraft thing is a bit, but do you think that brace and liz are capable of materially altering the outcome of the trial? or implying that their daily, in-person coverage is inadequate? even if both of those things were theoretically legitimate concerns, do you think that the demands of justice from one podcast (that is already constantly putting itself in the crosshairs) is capable of taking on this network of disgustingly wealthy and incredibly dangerous elites? i don't understand what point you're trying to make. if you're joking, my bad. if you're serious, lmao what?? yes this feeling of hopelessness is frustrating as shit, but acting like trueanon isn't already going above and beyond what any other outlet is doing is stupid doodoo dumb. i rest my case, commence the gaveling

Agave Maria

Maybe Epstein took part in the porn/cruising movie theater culture back in the 80s, and then just kept going to theaters for the crude nostalgia of that hey day

cwen

Why didn't the state call the creator of Nip/Tuck to the stand?

RyzomeRyan

TrueAnon are doing great work with their coverage. As I've stated before, there is some dark occult shit going on with this woman (GM) and it is just frustrating seeing the apathy/lack of attention in the M5M or anytime we hear anything that humanizes her. Look up "glamour magic." It can make the ugliest person in the room the most attractive to those subject to its affects. It can make a demon appear as an angel... I don't mean to overly criticize Liz & Brace, but they've got to snap out of this aspect of the spell they are being subjected to. Two more weeks of balls-to-the-wall seriousness and focus (and protection/banishing rituals if it's not too much) is all I ask. Yes, they are ABSOLUTELY capable of materially affecting the outcome of this trial. They are not in the same building by accident.

grover

Hold up. What the fuck kind of mind game was Bobbi Sternheim trying to pull by wearing cowboy boots (in Manhattan!!!) the day Maria Farmer's cowboy boots were being brought up as evidence?

dddilettante

Was scrolling looking for this exact comment. What a sick bitch

grover

There's no way someone who goes to the Ghislaine Maxwell trial AND wears a cop hat to keep people from bugging him about a mask isn't a Q person

Jessica S

Your interview with Maria was moving, she has an incredible presence about her. I was in tears many many times.

Jessica S

I can’t imagine that was coincidence.

Ash Awada

The gourmand ❤ ... and Liz ❤

Svid

Blue man group does like music based performance art - I think mostly drumming. I've never seen a show but I've listened to more than two episodes of cum town so I've heard Adams blue man story

Kate Baldwin

When I was 6 I had a ballet teacher who would make all us 5 and 6 year olds massage their feet and when I finally refused she got mad. So I told my mom and the school fired her weird ass. No reason a child should be touching any adults feet. Bizarre.

K

Lol. @JG Idk him. Not an endorsement, but he explicitly said not down w/ Q. I think he’s a libertarian Orthodox Jew. Doesn’t appear to have followed Epstein before now... like at all. Idk, he didn’t go off topic in what I saw. Just talked as a NYC litigator. Interesting.

Steve D. (BG_Bell)

Seriously considering making a pilgrimage to Café Lorenzo next time I'm in NYC and giving my compliments to Lorenzo *proceeds to lick every single finger individually*

Camille

It isn’t the same type as Willie Brown but my dad also has degenerative blindness, it sucks bc you can’t drive or own a gun

Stephen Longcoy

I was looking for examples but can't find any

a clash of purple

It's Saturday now, where's my Day 11 trial coverage?? Better make up for it tomorrow or you will be hearing from me again!!!!

Christie Macdonald

I only care about cafe Lorenzo please DO NOT talk about that boring fucking trial

gen~

im living for liz's fashion commentary throughout these episodes.

J HUTCH

It was on a QT on the nuked Trial Tracker thread last week

kyledamon96

This episode, this testimony, really puts the Happy Birthday on the cake. Very disturbing

HATERSLAYER420

listen my man, not only is what you're saying kinda bullshit (magic(k) shit is cool to think about, learn about, whatever - as absurd as (most of) it seems to me it might be equally real to you, so im not trying to insult you) but even if there were some real VOODOO SHIT going on... you think they're under her spell? even taking what you're saying (which is you gotta admit, to the non-trueanon-brained, pretty fucking out there) at face value, it doesn't make sense, because they... i can't believe i have to clarify this... fucking despise Ghislaine. and i'd wager that Mr. Fireworks would do some fucked up shit to her if he had the opportunity, that has been clear since ep. 1 and it's just as clear now. you're mistaking their levity as glamour magic... liz is talking about GM's f a s h i o n because that's one of liz' quirks, it's fun or silly or whatever. even if the shit you're suggesting is real, it still doesn't track, it still doesn't make sense in this context. i appreciate that you do seem to truly care, but i'm tellin you friend, as someone who has listened to an unhealthy amount of trueanon, brace and liz are being brace and liz. they're making jokes here and there, throwing in some levity to a situation that is, as you rightly noted, as dark as it fucking gets. they have a sense of humor and im glad they do, not only because i personally identify with it, but god fucking damn would this podcast be overwhelmingly depressing without it. that balance is a crucial part of what makes trueanon so great imo. to be clear, im not trying to insult or condescend to you. although i don't believe the same things you do, it's clear that your heart is in the right place and that we have common enemies here. i'm not religious, i'm not really spiritual for lack of a better term, but the more patterns you observe, the more seemingly impossible things you encounter... i understand why you subscribe to the beliefs you do, even if i personally don't. i'm stuck on those last 2 sentences, that they are "capable of materially affecting the outcome of this trial. they are not in the same building by accident." and while i disagree with the first part (to a degree) for reasons i said in my first reply, the second part of that statement is true. they aren't there by accident. if you believe that the explanation is a cosmic one, so be it, but it also is really simply explained. it kind of explains itself, honestly. they started this podcast because of the epstein implosion. years later, they're successful, have an audience, and have the resources to go cover the trial in person. and it's fucking awesome they're doing that. this isn't like, uhh, kismet or something. they weren't randomly selected to be there. it all tracks, man. there's no leap of faith or magic required to understand why they're in that building. however... Ghislaine Maxwell = GM. Glamour Magic(k) = GM. i retract everything i've said. strike it from the record posthaste, gavel gavel.

HATERSLAYER420

that's just classic cowgirl bobbi sternheim baby! yeehaw!! yea what a cunt

Uel Aramchek

Thinking a boot having a scuff means something is some real new york horseshit

Matelda

I no longer wonder at their daring to prosecute her really

Matelda

They didn't even call any expert witnesses about sexual assault? You have experience with what's normal for trauma but they probably weeded any such people out of the jury

Kompromatic

These are some A-tier Patreon comments

Miss Lourdes

Glamour magick is real stuff! Goodluck on finding the grimoires to "prove" it. Hahahaha

Samantha Geovjian Clarke

usually when Liz says something Brace doesn't understand and she's like "lady listeners will know" i have absolutely no idea either but this time i was nodding knowingly going "ah yes, a 90s style Nine West boot, i understand"

RyzomeRyan

Regarding your first question (yttuhs?), I will respond by saying that I think all things are in play. If there is a spell here (as I hypothesize) it likely covers everyone in the courtroom, courthouse, and all eight arms of the octopus... Meaning we could ALL be under it.. I'm not trying to get all Q or anything but Epstein's 2019 arrest kicked up a lot of dust, including a sham Impeachment of a president who hung out with him at one point and a global pandemic... Not saying one caused the other, but there are clearly archonic forces at work, aka this is all really quite "big". I understand that isn't an atheist/materialist view on things but hopefully our differing views on the spiritual aspects of reality don't turn this conversation cold... As one who "believes in magick" I'd say that belief is not as an inference that magick, like miracles, sometimes happen but that magick is what the universe is made of so, in a sense, is always happening. And if all is magick, or susceptible to the will of the beings who inhabit space, then all things and possibilities are at play at all times (past, present, and future) [the three in one, the one in three.] Now, I don't say all this to proselytize, but to clarify... Because I did go back and read my OP and see that I sound quite flippant and unclear where I'm directing my anger. It is a human thing to say a thing and then, upon that thing being paid attention to, having to support/defend it. And thricely challenging a task to come to terms with that fact you may have to admit what bullshit it only ever was as there may be no rational defense for it. But I digress... The spell I'm seeing here is multifaceted. It's global on one end and deeply personal on the other. It is invisibility and perfected head fakes. It is material fabric in coordinating colors paired with melting cobwebs of past connections and HD recollections of traumatic events. I was wrong to insult the amazing work and lightening-the-mood chit chat from our fucking kick ass hosts and I don't mean to imply that that's what's gonna determine GMs fate in this case. Not my intention, but I see where I was sloppy. Also I should not have given any power towards the idea that GMs Magick might be stronger than ours. We are stronger and one way or another justice/truth prevails. Stay with that as long as you need to. We all should because it is a profound thing with infinite implications if true. Liz & Brace' path to get there all tracks logically in the same way seeing winning lottery numbers and saying to yourself, "if only I'd be just played THOSE numbers..." tracks... Hindsight is 20/20 which presumes we suffer from tunnel vision when we're on the path itself. What looks like a series of concerted decisions leading to an outcome is more a situation of the one-in-a-million chance happening nine times out of every ten (Peter J Carroll) There are no accidents. GM=GM... Great catch. Those are the kinds of syncs that'll be fun to keep an eye out for. Cuz yeah, it ain't in our hands. I mean there's a jury after all.

joan

Check out The Guardian's John Sweeney's recap of the trial https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/12/ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein-lawyers-court-case-broken-women "The slut-shaming – or something very much like it – of the four key witnesses against Ghislaine Maxwell and her late lover, Jeffrey Epstein is, almost, a thing of beauty, a dark wonder to behold. You’ve got to admire the way Maxwell’s multimillion-dollar attorneys break her accusers on the rack of their own human frailty. No one dare call it torture: we’re watching justice at work, the Ghislaine Maxwell defence team way."

Carla Amalie Fledelius

We hear so much about what Ghislaine is wearing. But can we please have an update each episode on what you guys are wearing?

TrueAnonPod

I was surprised at this too, they did have one expert witness to talk briefly about grooming but yeah

Sav

Defense sounds like a mess — do you think they are trying for a mistrial? I’m not a lawyer but between the op-Ed, the blurting of names, the flying papers, the short defense…that’s what my gut is telling me.

justin

Nycp hat guy is a law tuber with the name good lawgic

justin

Nypd*

Me

This is so dark and depressing. Fuck these evil fucking people. But good work, Brace and Liz!

pod accoster

I can see how young Annie might have been trying to figure out whether she was dealing with a Joe Biden or a Jeffrey Epstein (not that there aren't weird dimensions to the Biden stuff)

Jenna

In light of all the rhony references, I recently found out that the infamous scary island yacht lunch happened directly in front of Little Saint James. If only Carole had been there…

Iris Allen

Any talk of the omicron variant slowing down the case at all?

orc

big True Crime Pod energy from this trial coverage series

Dinosaur

except this is a good podcast.

SwagMasta420

You can't really get a mistrial just from the defense fucking up, otherwise every defense team in the country would be doing cartoon style clumsy mishaps and physical comedy. Idk what the defense is really like without watching them in person, but from this podcast they sound very very stupid. Ghislaine also seems very stupid and arrogant in the same type of way as these lawyers so it's probably a case of her hiring people who think like her. Also if the defense causes a mistrial the defense can be tried again, not usually very helpful as now the prosecution gets a second chance to make an even more airtight case, especially in a case like this where prosecution has made some small fuckups and some pretty weak testimony and evidence.

Bill Fuller

Guys, been subscribed since the start, don’t think I’ve ever commented on the Patreon ever, but just want to commend you guys for your commitment to covering the whole trial. Great job.

Kirsten Stuke

I work at Sally Hershberger so I’m dying at all these references 🤣

Jake

Presented by Barstool Sports!

Kate Baldwin

Damn y'all, I miss cafe Lorenzo watch :[

Jacob Ocon

Just saw that and ran here. Racial Jake is one step closer to a collab with the call her daddy girls

Lesley Anne Noelle

glad that they (added?) the episode number for Maria Farmer. it’s a tough one to hear. 🥺 does anyone know anything about👉🏾Vicky Ward? she was a guest on #DemocracyNow, so other than being aware of what she disclosed there (she knew about Epstein, and Epstein threatened her whilst she was pregnant with her twins, to the point that she had police protection. (that last point—it could have been private …but it was while she was at Hospital delivering them.)

Tia Benedict

I'd like to quote some of you podcast on my substack The Tell - resisting cults, quacks and abusive partners. It is all about coercive control. Would that be OK? https://thetell.substack.com