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Episode 303: UFOS — Real or Nah? (Patreon)

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2023-06-29 13:52:06
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2024-10-11 00:15:55
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We come in peace and go to pieces by going back on everything we’ve ever said and doing a UFO episode. We examine the recent claims that the US government has an alien spaceship. Featuring the Smoking Men @bpleasies and @RobertSkvarla.

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NYCM&AHole

Ask the dudes who died looking for it at the bottom of the ocean

James Murray

very unlikely they're real. space is just too big

Masedogz

Fuck yes finally an ep with skvarla I can now return to mothership.

drewb

The belden program reveals itself

Dan Gorry

UFO discourse is funny cause generally UFO people have the capacity to understand that the universe is so vast it would be statistically impossible for life to only exist on Earth - but they simultaneously underestimate how distant bodies are from one another in space, which would make it virtually impossible for living things to physically interact with one another on different worlds All UFO "sightings" are either Lies or Military Aircraft

Natalie

that first UFO episode you guys did ("take me to your dealer") had me questioning the sanity of this pod when i first heard it so i'm excited to hear the developments lmao

Colin Andrews

Since it’s so big, doesn’t it imply the opposite?

C. J

Peter Thiel has had his tentacles all over this for a couple of years now. He hired a few guys to spout UFO nonsense all over the web like Jesse Michels, then Weinstein was trotting it out too. Garry Nolan is a Stanford guy and of course he had an “encounter” as a kid. Haha.

C. J

Tbh the fact that aliens travel the universe to strictly visit America is absurdly far fetched too.

Jon W

We've made so many dramatic leaps in the last century. Flight was totally novel a century ago and now it is routine. It's hard to say what an intelligent species could do in another millennium. But yes. Cosmic travel just isn't trivial enough to explain how all this shit is popping off within a decade of manned space flight becoming a thing.

David Bond

I had to stop really quick and listen to Stonehenge!

Michael S. Judge

The whole point of ancient aliens was that they're Fugazi. They taught you how to Book Your Own Fucking Life

yerrak

Very important I announce that I in fact own the same baby yoda bong as the ep image

Ian H

Didn't the CIA stage a few UFO incidents in Brazil back in the 60's by abducting farmers in helicopters and doing weird sex stuff to them? *Edit* Ok I was thinking of the Antonio Vilas-Boas story and Bosco Nedelcovic's account of his participation. Late 50's apparently.

itsjenjen

brace, vanderpump spinoff pod when?

James Murray

*they're probably real but space is so big and it takes so much energy and time to trek those distances that we'd probably never encounter them

Mark Owen

Liz has been to Vashon - did she go to KVI Beach on Maury Island and see saucers? And are we going to do Stonehenge tomorrow night?

E A

So fire

Jaime Christley

Aliens are real, they’re going to be here in 450 years. So we have time to prepare for the invasion. Unfortunately they have used quantum entanglement and 11-dimensional computers to halt mankind’s technological advancements. It’s not all bad news; we’re selecting three of the world’s greatest minds plus one random idiot to come up with solutions that are so hellish to contemplate that they’ll be completely ostracized and one will be assassinated. But check this out,

TrueAnonPod

FYI I tried to explain the principles of dark forest theory before we started recording — YC

Kamran Husain

this means we getting the diaper episode

Peanut Horse

(Talking about John McCain) “He knows a crash landing when he sees one” lmao liz

drewb

I mean of course they come to America. that's where they keep the stargate

blazed uncle

Leading theory about Stonehenge is that it was a graveyard (lots of human remains dug up around it) with an annual feast (which is why it’s oriented a certain way with respect to the sun). Also, apparently the people there predate the Druids, who were from a Celtic culture who came to Britain after the culture that made Stonehenge declined. I know it was just a riff but I figure somebody would find this interesting.

NYCM&AHole

John Podesta wanted to have sex with an alien child.

Jaime Christley

It’s such a simple concept tho! And I’m dumb as shit. I got my da to read the trilogy and he said Dark Forest was the best SF novel he’d read since Heinlin, but the third book was pretty anticlimactic, perfunctory. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Kenny Allums

Please you can’t eat the predator he’ll nuke himself as soon as he knows he’s lost.

NYCM&AHole

That’s one ugly motherfucker

Zach Young

I think going to manzanita beach would be a good place to also go see the saucers if the move south along the island

Karl Childers

the Kecksburg Acorn UFO was 100% a Broken Arrow incident. i am convinced it was the re-entry vehicle/warhead of an ICBM that broke apart in atmosphere and fell to earth, then was recovered and covered up.

Irvin de la Rosa

Totally agree that there's a stronger case for the existence of elves, fairies things of that nature.

Wes

I saw a ufo once while hiking with 3 other people. It moved in ways that would be impossible for any modern aircraft, went extremely fast without a sonic boom, turning on a dime, stoping/accelarting instantly, hovering, etc. We watched it for over an hour before it went behind a ridge, prior to this I just dismissed all ufo stuff as bullshit but after seeing one i dont know what to think. I dont really buy all the government stuff but ufos are definitely real.

Brian Ward

I subscribed to this podcast because I was assured the host hated movies as much as me. But it turns out he talks about movies in every episode! Unsubscribe

brodie

Little known fact but the reason that UFOs keep crashing is because aliens are prolific drunk drivers. This is why the government has to cover it up. If the people knew that the aliens were drunk driving then everyone would do it because aliens are cool.

Richard Cochnar

Oh wow, I remember one of the hosts of Radiolab (I used to have worse taste in podcasts, give me a break) getting in trouble for pressing an interviewee about the yellow rain stuff back in 2012.

Maxwell

Aberration in the Heartland of the Real has a really great section about intelligence agencies connection to alien stories. Also a Timothy McVeigh series would be really interesting

James Murray

They haven't found bacteria on Mars yet, btw

Joshua Salerno

I love the guy that says we are unique in the universe but… there are Fairies.My dad saw something in Argentina when he was a young man in his early 20s in the 80’s and he believes that UFO are something Demonic(unfortunately he is an evangelical Christian). I’m kind of in the Brace camp and just can’t give enough shits about it because it is just to much to dive into.

Svid

Wait wait wait, people believe that Gillian Anderson is hot? Hottest red head is obviously Jessica Rabbit. The perfect female form.

Dani

UFO discourse is hard because everyone is either highly skeptical or tinfoil hat, there’s no in between. It’s easy for everyone to have their opinion on it, but there are quite a few non-US incidents, mass witnesses sightings. The 2017 ufo videos were initially leaked, and only a few years later officially released by the pentagon. These objects have historically been demonstrated as traveling at thousands of miles of hours, and on radar. It’s better to keep an open mind that there’s enough we don’t know about the universe at the end of the day

Lizard

yeah but scully made me gay

John Atherton

i just fuckin knew that YC had some perfect synth tunes to play for this one

sadie

NYT best seller Aliens in america by friend of the pod jodi dean highly relevant in this vein .....

Jaime Christley

Lots of Radiolab episodes are excellent - that specific one is uh…… yowch

QUARANTINE DREAM

they come from underwater and aren't used to the lack of visual distortion n shit

Sneakaboard

I was just on island for the saucer burning lmao

Sneakaboard

Liz and Brace should dig their way into the nike site bunkers so we can finally figure out what is going on down there.

Sneakaboard

My dad and his best friend were deeo backcountry bow hunting for white tail deer in eastern oregon in the 80s and were buzzed in a ravine by a black craft that looked like nothing theyd ever seen before and was moving insanely fast. They hightailed it back to Clackamas and started telling everyone they saw a UFO which naturally my dad was a sailor and his buddy was a logger so they are both legebdarily full of shit and no one believed them... ubtik a few years later when the govmt revealed the existence of the stealth bomber, an experimental technology that was tested in eastern OR!

james

only thing i'm sure about is that I wouldn't be surprised if the UFOs were all human technology, or all the sightings were fabricated, or that some if it is totally real.

CC

Great fun episode! Definitely do a part 2, nice to have a topic like this

Derek Nagy

One thing to keep in mind is how many sightings go unreported. Think about it, how often does rape go unreported? And that's something we all agree exists. I think that's why there are those big increases in sightings after a big one. It's not that there are more sightings, it's that people feel safer reporting their sightings. It's a lot easier to say "I saw something too" than it is to say "I saw something"

CC

Makes sense, i saw a ufo years ago, i was with 2 buddies on the beach, looked up in the sky, saw a small object zip up, down and to the right, hover for a bit and then zoom off into space. It was 5-10 seconds of the craziest shit ever. I look at my friends to see if they saw it and they weren’t looking up. I never really talk about it, just think of it as one of those unexplainable things in life.

Escher Beat

RE: "Why do they crash?" I'm not a UFO believer, I think the Grusch thing is a psyop whether he knows it himself or not, but a recent explanation I've seen going around is that the reason we started seeing it around the 50s and 60s is that they were being disrupted by nuclear testing, which messes with their systems, and/or due to back engineering of alien tech, similar disruptions are more common. They also point to the prevalence of sightings near nuclear sites as evidence that aliens are interested in human use of nuclear technology

Escher Beat

Also, you guys glossed over Richard Dohty way too fast - dude is a smoking gun for the UFO-as-a-psyop hypothesis. Watch the doc "Mirage Men" which features him literally spelling out that he was a psyop. It permanently changed the lens through which I look at UFO news. Generally I'm convinced that the government uses UFO disclosures as a means of either implicitly revealing technological capabilities as a threat to other nations (russia, china), or acknowledging that they are aware of their actions without raising a hard diplomatic issue. Or as it was brought up in the podcast, as a means to tease out from foreign nation states what kind of capabilities they might have

snapplepeachtea

i loved these guests pls have them back some day

Escher Beat

Or basically to use the words I learned from you guys - UFO disclosure is a form of "limited hangout"

Golander

dolphin ultracars. they make them under da sea

c

i had to fact-check annie jacobsen’s bs at a job once. my intelligence has never been more insulted.

repairmanman

hasids in space is pretty much most of the plot of the last dune book.

Michael Coutts

Brace, you should read Passport to Magonia and report back. There's some wild ideas in there

philosophy, relax

Damn thanks for the heads up the intelligence community is involved. I had no clue.

Oliver Crane

I think it’s cool that the best X-Files episode about aliens basically says “even if they’re real, no one’s story is reliable, the military is responsible for a lot of the sightings, you’ll never get a satisfying answer, and in the end our UFO obsession is just a way to cope with the fundamental sadness and loneliness in our lives.”

Brendan Garcia

I remember like 10-15 years ago the national reconnaissance office donated their old, obsolete satellite telescope to NASA to replace the Hubble Space Telescope. It was apparently many times more powerful, and they weren’t pointing it AWAY from earth, just to give you an idea of how spooked up they are, and what they’re up to.

Tryg

MOONPILL US LIZ! Do it! Do it! Do it! Get on that guy who was punched by ol' Buzzy Light-fraud...

Samuel Archer

i'm with skvarla, fairies are real

Jaime Christley

Salmon skin is difficult to get crispy but if you can do it, delishioso.

David

Please PLEASE if there’s a series of follow-up episodes, do a deep dive on that “Dr.” Steven Greer guy. Dude is bananas.

blazed uncle

I really like that a “trans-medium element” can be one of those Cessna seaplanes

Zach Young

They say there is a secret underwater submarine base and that no one saw the Nike missiles leave the island….

Psych-O-Sonic 99

The Skvarla guy has the most annoying voice ever.

CJ

“Maybe that’s where I came from.” BRACE. ok but honestly same

Psych-O-Sonic 99

This Skvarla guy write for covert action magazine? Oh, how they’ve fallen.

ultraviolet sasquatch

Something very important is to remember that the flying saucer/extraterrestrial narrative and people's actual Weird experiences are separate. A lot of it is research and experimentation with disinformation programs etc (watch Mirage Men, it's about Doty) on top of covering up aero tech... There is something there with the abduction phenomenon connecting to intelligence and mk ultra etc. But! There is also some WEIRD ASS SHIT that people experience. I know first hand. This is something truly Other, and has always been with us. But nobody knows anything besides that

Alex

I loved the explanation of how our cultural perception of aliens has evolved. And I need to find out more about this "fairy" theory. I think one of the more-interesting imaginations is the archetype provided in NOPE - where the ability to travel through space is evolutionary. It's an innate characteristic, like a gazelle's ability to run, but the alien is still primal and driven by the same "laws of nature" we all are. It's not all-knowing. It's not benevolent or malevolent. It's just an animal.

Robbie H.

I took so much acid once I thought I was a god or alien

Robbie H.

Ok no no no no, "the female Dennis miller" must stick

ultraviolet sasquatch

READ MESSENGERS OF DECEPTION BY VALLEE!!! He was onto fascist UFO cults in the 70s.

Chris

I saw a UFO with my dad while we were smoking cigarettes but I've been cool about it and I just keep it to myself

Shane M

RE: first contact — The Visit (2015) is an interesting “documentary” of a hypothetical visit by aliens, experts outlining their questioning of an alien (the viewer)

Conor James Finnegan

This episode needs an addendum that goes into the purported deep lore of nukes and ufos

Joelio

If y'all have never seen it, you should watch John Was Trying to Contact Aliens. Short documentary with fantastic synth tunes.

AbeLinkin

I still think the great pyramids and some other Neolithic structures weren’t built by humans or without some sort of extraterrestrial aid/tools/insight. I know I’m crazy but I still think there are some valid points.

ultraviolet sasquatch

The fae thing is basically this: it's only a mundane extraterrestrial in a mechanical ship in the limited media narrative. People's accounts UFOs and their inhabitants only fit that story part of the time. If you look at the broader range of experiences, there is a lot of overlap with the fairy faith. In the way they behave, in the way some things appear and other sensory experiences, in what people are told... It isn't just the fairy faith, because every culture has some sort of spirit contact paradigm, but that's just the example. It's wrong to say fae and djinni are literally the same thing, but rather encounters with them different versions of the same kind of experience filtered by culture. The UFO phenomenon is ours, filtered by our culture. The cover if the modem printing does a gray holding masks: an angel(I think?) A little green man, and a devil. Not to imply that aliens are those things in disguise, but rather this experience had always been with us. He does not purport to know what they are but does accept that the experiences are often seemingly impossible. It's a little dated now but it's a great, short read. I also strongly recommend his book Messengers of Deception, where he posits that there's some sort of control scheme going being implemented, and calls out the often racist and fascist vibe of UFO cults. There's a story in there of thing to a meeting for a channeler group in the bay area that fucking chilled me. Great book

Alex

Thank you, this is dope. I'm going to check out the rec.

K Barlas

There ain't, they're all explained. Some "aren't settled" BC there are multiple archaeological theories, but one of them is always true, people did that shit

Shiv

MJ Thank you for schooling me on the Copeland CIA situation prior to this episode so I wasn’t too scared

Michael S. Judge

I have no idea what they are, and apart from their evident use as psywar bullshit, I kind of feel like thinking about it is like trying to logic yourself into the existence of God – the whole thing is by nature beyond your comprehension; if you saw the answer right in front of your face, you wouldn't know what you were looking at – but UFOs in themselves are definitely real. I saw what I think was the same thing several times in Texas in 2009-10, even called a friend in the middle of the night to come over and tell me if I was crazy, and she said, "Of course you're crazy, but not about this." (We were standing in a Civil War graveyard, and I will always remember the specific crestfallen tone of her voice when she saw it too and realized I wasn't just having a drunk manic episode. She didn't WANT it to be real, she wasn't looking for it, but it was there.)

Michael S. Judge

(That graveyard also had a headstone that just said "Hee-hee!," no name or dates)

Karl Childers

turns out moving rocks isn't that big a challenge when you can spend centuries on a single construction project

Karl Childers

those structures built out of the irregular interlocking stones that are basically earthquake-proof are fucking crazy impressive though i gotta admit

Karl Childers

au contrair, you see, this post you've made is far more annoying you little bitch

rutjake

hasidic abductee gets a separate pod for his hat

ClownBabee24

Gillian Anderson. Thats all.

Ben

you guys should interview trevor paglen

Ben

he made a art career of photographing black sites but he also used to be a geographer and recently did a project wheee he tried to identify ufos and interviewed a FBI infiltrator of circa 198s ufo groups

Chris

mechanical, it came down from high orbit and got super hot, then it basically stopped and started flying over lake michigan like a fighter jet. I'm anti UFO but I have no fucking clue what tf was going on there

honky

Ok but are they real or not

Matelda

What we see in the sky are light signals from stars that are sometimes billions of years in the past. If the star blew up a million years ago, we may not see it until millions of years in the future. We definitely don't understand hardly anything but trying to wrap the mind around what we do creates a deeper sense of limits than possibilities, at least for me.

Bloberis SH

Believing aliens built the pyramids isn't crazy, it's racist and stupid. Which is a lot less cool than crazy

inés

i was hoping you would mention the spice girls movie Spice World where ginger spice gets felt up by and ugly little alien guy. amazing movie

Once_Royal

I dunno, we're fucking up so bad in almost every regard when it comes to looking out for our own long term survival and even just looking out for each other in the short term that I almost hope some alien "intelligent life conservation group" swings by and deus ex machinas us out of our own shit. I've also been thinking that as we make "progress" with AI, it could serve as a potential impetus for Aliens to intervein in human society to prevent the advent of Dune style "thinking machines." Like breaking a law in a state we didn't even know we were in. To be clear I'm not like die-hard on any of this, just kind of fun to think about.

TangiePower

Stargate SG-1 is all about what if the US government, specifically military, had exclusive diplomatic access to Xenopolitics. The alien shit has gotta be one of the longest running cons, turned folktale in modern American history. Just the military lying its ass off.

Jacob atkins

That one guy almost made it to the end without admitting he believes in fairies and gnomes.

Juliette DeMaso

Watch the video “better off alone” by Purity Ring. 👽

Svid

Lol omg, dog you got worms in your brain if you think that's racist

Kyle

You guys were correct to avoid UFOs before this. Woof.

Bob K Ross

Watch the video "better off alone" by alice dj

MurseInDaPurse

I want to believe in life after love

Jones Kolbinsky

Liz and Brace are gonna get left behind by our forthcoming overlords for this episode. A shame.

Sarah Ernst

These guys should get real jobs

M Mmd

You mean real jobs like you posting on the internet not seeing anywhere near the amount of money they do for providing a service people enjoy and choose to support? Sounds like you're a smooth brain who thinks that because you don't take what they do seriously means that they don't. They know more about the world than you ever will, and make more money in a month than you probably do in a year. So step back and evaluate how utterly stupid you sound right now

Natalie

delighted to report my kooky meter was not set off once during this episode

Andrew Irwin

Why no death grips sample when they said “noided”??

Andrew Irwin

Watch the video “I’ve seen footage” by death grips

K H

Can we just talk about how much the military b lyin? Like wtf? Sociopath tendency much?

K H

Dude...our ai is no where near that shit. It is not any better than a couple years ago or more, they're just letting the public use it now. Aliens would look at us using ai the way we look at people watching "moving pictures" jump out of the way when watching footage of a train. We are fucking dumb dude. The guys prophetically marketing ai aren't even the ones designing it.

K H

I heard lemon juice might be bad for your gut biome.

K H

They're real and they're gay.

honky

Hell yea dude that’s awesome

K H

Fuckin stupid. Aliens came to earth across space to move some rocks.

K H

It's fucked up to constantly assume cool buildings built by non White people were from aliens. Do people think chapels and castles or Roman shit was built by aliens?

Jordan Lange

I’m gonna need more fairy and gnome info honestly.

Timothy

Blink-182 makes it into two episodes in a row!

Bradley W Plaisier

I’m interested in hearing about this, I saw something kind of similar in MI once, feel free to DM me @bpleasies on twitter

Hordeum

UFOs are bullshit because civilizations are incapable of reaching this level of technical advancement without destroying their planet, as we are doing, or self-destructing in an apocalyptic war, as we also are drifting into.

Hordeum

Civilizations would have self-destructed as ours is in the process of doing before they could develop the level of technology necessary for interstellar travel. We can't even handle the technology we currently have. I think it's safe to assume that a society can't survive long enough to develop interstellar travel.

W Milly

Ok, now do bigfoot.

Sneakaboard

A group of townie buds from my small rural town in WA used to do a week long camping trip every year to hunt bigfoot or UFOs or whatever and I went with one time and while we were setting trail cams the expedition leader said: 'Look we KNOW the woods are crawling with Bigfoot, but we ALSO know that no one finds remains and we rarely encounter them, so, obviously...' and took a pause like I was supposed to finish the thought and when i didn't he said 'TRANSDIMENSIONAL, its obvious based on what we know that bigfoot is a transdimensional entity' and now everytime someone tells me some insane shit derived from wild first principles I view it as an otherworldly encounter with Transdimentional Bigfoot.

Oscar

the mod named harbor is ruining the discord server. he banned me and several others over nothing.

kellar

found the gnome denier 🙄

Oscar

Oh I know you're part of it too, Rodney. Don't worry ;)

Abbie & Leo

Brace, please stream Deus Ex again. Need to see it

Claire Simon

Is that Jose Chung or another one

Svid

Nerd on nerd violence

Oscar

Saying "step on me" under someone's thirst trap selfie isn't being a sex creep. However, digging up messages from 6 months ago to flimsily justify banning people you and your soft friends don't like is loser behavior.

Sneakaboard

Spice World is legitimately a super fun watch that makes a lot of weird 'what the fuck??' choices and has an INCREDIBLE stunt sequence as the final set piece involving a bomb on a bus ala Speed.

Sneakaboard

Vallee is pretty foundational to the contemporary syncretic attempts to reconcile all the 'experiencer' phenomena like ghosts, bigfoot, ufos, monsters etx. His ideas have a way of both dispelling peoples visions of literal green guys zipping around in ships while also opening them up to a much more deeply historically rooted pattern of human experience and way more bizarre visions of what may be 'out there'. Weird Studies is a podcast i like that explores a lot of this stuff without making any strong declaratives about what is 'really happening' although i imagine a lot TA listeners will bounce off the guys due to corniness and sincerity. Mothman Prophecies is also pretty essential for gettinf your head around the idea that these weirdness eruptions are different facets of similar phenomena.

Sneakaboard

Theres a liminal space between 'its all just electro chemical artifacts of the way brains work' and 'there is a monster and you are seeing it' that is pretty spooky once you start to dig into this stuff.

Sneakaboard

Same except I thought i liked Ska

Skullbrain

"I think humans are special and unique" lol? we know life grows on planets around suns and you can go outside at night and see the other suns from here. these guys are wacky but ig that's how all catholic ufo nerds are

Sneakaboard

To be fair, slime mold and humans have some significant differences that probably do make us a lot more unique than slime molds, cosmically speaking. But also yeah, they find heavily melanated slime molds that have been growing in the vacuum of space on the outside of the ISS and shit, the universe IS teeming with life but it remains to be seen how much of it is 'higher order'.

pilongo

I don't get how you guys are saying there is "no evidence" (as opposed to other types of leaks or whistleblowers) in the beginning of the podcast. I would agree it's strange how little evidence there is, given the claims, but there certainly is _some_ evidence thats worth considering from some cases. In 2017 all those videos were released by the navy... theres also first hand testimony from the pilots, and then in the disclosures by the navy is that some of them emitted signals in the radio part of the EM spectrum, and had something like "jamming" abilities. Like Brace said, all of the intelligence/psyop explanations of this don't make much sense either, so it's worth giving every possibility it's due.

Michael Seifert

Jaques Vallee and Passport to Magonia mentioned in a True Anon ep? Hell yeah!

Doug Cartel

speaking of UFOs and Hillary, every time I want to think of an example of a stupid tabloid story I keep coming back to "Bill fought alien for Hillary's hand in marriage". I think it was National Enquirer

Doug Cartel

so, electronic warfare then? Russia put a lot of money into EW because of america's reliance on tech for a combat edge

Maxwell

I got strong ‘de-boooonker’ vibes off this one. When they were talking about the footage the navy released they all admitted they didn’t know how to properly view the evidence so they wrote it off? I normally appreciate Brace and Liz’s perspectives even when I disagree with them but I couldn’t even finish this one

Juliette DeMaso

Watch the video “Alien Days” by MGMT

Sardonic

aka the great filter. Which may, in fact, be capitalism

whalecum2020_official

Great episode but disappointed that USOs and underwater theories weren’t mentioned

whalecum2020_official

Oops commented right before I finished the whole thing but still! Underwater is the most compelling & intriguing for me

Natalie

ah yes the navy, the worlds most trustworthy source! and look, people also think they've gone to heaven and met god when they are declared medically dead before waking up. that doesn't mean it happened. something jamming something is it proof of anything. if we gave "every possibility its due" we'd be sitting here trying to explain every crazy BS claim on ancient aliens

Chris

Liz despondently saying "I don't know what that is" to the Deus Ex reference is my favorite part of this episode

Bradley W Plaisier

Why do you think the navy would ever be forthcoming about anything? Toward the end I talk about what I actually think about UFOs, how about finishing the episode w/o clinging to your own beliefs which you’ve fallen victim to/that you’re shitting on other people for having fallen victim to

Bradley W Plaisier

Like we’re literally just walking thru the v well documented spooky history (intelligence-type) of fuckery in the creation of the modern ufo/alien myth you have to know if you want to be able to tackle the ufo problem responsibly.

Michael S. Judge

are you willing to say this on the record in an affidavit or deposition

cogandbal

I mean most of the videos have been deboonked by just guys who use cameras often about the emp thing america has a base in Australia I only heard from bo boy video but the implication is that these huge towers caused a plane to lose power and dive bomb I think most stuff can be boiled down to america bad

Bradley W Plaisier

I did do bigfoot, go to YouTube & check out Weird Reads with Emily Louise’s livestream w me

Bradley W Plaisier

Robert & I did a Jose Chung’s watch-a-long on Ghost Stories For The End Of The World a while back

Jakew

Rip Rob Reiner