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A woman floated out of the fire-wreathed spaceship. She was also aflame, with fire burning atop her head in place of hair. Her eyes were bur

A woman floated out of the fire-wreathed spaceship. She was also aflame, with fire burning atop her head in place of hair. Her eyes were burning orbs, and her graceful yellow dress had a shifting pattern of dancing flames. Jason smiled and the airlock behind him opened. He went inside and she followed, waiting until the door shut and air was vented in.

“I like the new look,” he told her. “The new dimensional vessel, too. You know it looks like the God Phoenix ship from Science Ninja Team Gatchaman, right?”

Her fire hair turned to normal, if vibrant red locks and fell about her head. Her eyes went from magma-like orbs to ordinary but beautiful eyes of fiery yellow. She used them to fix Jason with a judgemental stare.

“Three sentences,” Dawn complained. “That’s how long it took for you to bring up some cartoon nonsense.”

“I would say anime, rather than cartoon. I know the line was blurred when they retooled the series as Battle of the Planets for the western market, but—”

“You need to stop before I set you on fire.”

“Speaking of fire, your new avatar is lovely and all, as is your spaceship, but they don’t make any sense. Fire in space? There’s no oxygen.”

“It’s your universe. I’m not responsible for the physics.”

They grinned and shared a hug. When they let go, Jason kept his hands on her shoulders as he looked at her with concern. She wouldn’t quite meet his eyes.

“Raythe said you didn’t want to see me,” he said.

“It’s not that I didn’t want…”

She met his gaze.

“I didn’t intend to see you. I wanted you to know everything, first. To give you a chance to hate me.”

“This is about old loyalties, isn’t it? The World-Phoenix and I having agendas that are similar, but not the same, and she got you first. You’re conflicted.”

“Yes.”

“I understand. I know the stakes of the choices we have to make, and that sometimes, every option sucks. Maybe you did something that won’t go great for me. That’s okay.”

“I did do that. Before I knew you, but also after. And I kept things from you. Partly because I was told to. Partly so you wouldn’t go and do something characteristically ludicrous.”

“Like create a time loop so I can save-scum my way through a boss fight?”

“Something like that.”

“Did you ever think you were doing anything other than the right thing?”

“Knowing what the right thing is can be hard. Or impossible, until after the fact.”

“But you tried, right?”

“Yes.”

“I can’t blame you for that. I certainly won’t hate you for it.”

“You don’t know what’s coming yet.”

“Well, you can tell me over lunch.”

The inner airlock door opened with a hiss.

“We can take a shuttle down to the planet that isn’t a fire spaceship that makes no sense,” Jason said.

“Again, you’re the one in charge of physics.”

Jason led her into his space station and down the spacious hall.

“Does your ship have those cool missile pods like in the anime?” he asked.

“I didn’t base the design off a cartoon.”

“You’re just embarrassed because you watched the Battle of the Planets version and not the original anime, aren’t you?”

“I’m realising that my instinct to stay away was one I should have listened to.”

“Raythe knew that I’d be sceptical of what she had to tell me. She hasn’t been telling me porky pies, then.”

“No. She has not.”

“She told me that the two of you are friends.”

“She’s far older than I am. I think. It doesn’t really apply with her, and how she moves through time. Or doesn’t. She was something like a wise big sister, when I was trying to set aside my mortal sensibilities. She was being a friend when I was being an acquaintance. The friendship is more recent. Possibly. Sometimes it feels like we’ve been friends for a very long time, and I’ve somehow forgotten. Or it hasn’t happened yet. It can be like that with her.”

“Sounds complicated.”

“Speaking of complicated, I understand that you’re with Zara Rimaros now.”

“Uh, yeah. It’s new. Properly new; neither of us travel through time.”

“When we last saw each other, you were rather unhappy with her.”

“That was a while ago.”

“Do you think it will work out?”

“Depends on what you mean by work out. I’m in my forties. Who knows how I’ll see things in my hundred and forties. I’m more inclined to enjoy things for what they are and let them play out. Earth gives us a chance to be away from clashing agendas, but I don’t think it will work on Pallimustus. Being team members is one thing, but relationships are political for her.”

“Because she’s a princess and you attempted to extort the whole planet into ending slavery?”

“You heard about that?”

“I did. It wasn’t a great plan.”

“It was laying the groundwork. It put the idea of abolition in people’s heads.”

“It was never going to work.”

“It wasn’t meant to work. Now, the other people out there working against slavery will look more reasonable by comparison.”

“Unless they get tarred with your crazy brush.”

“No plan is perfect. And me being a lone fringe element is not a hard sell.”

They stopped at another airlock.

“Now we can go down to the planet in a more sensible vessel than your improbably on-fire cartoon spaceship,” he said.

“This space station is shaped like your head.”

“What’s your point?”

***

A large picnic table in a woodland grove had a red and white tablecloth placed over it. The table was set with many dishes and a few bottles of wine. Birdsong and the sound of a nearby stream filled the air, along with sunlight beaming from a bright blue sky.

“How are you finding transcendence?” Jason asked as he refilled Dawn’s wineglass.

“Not many transcendents have a true physical form, the way you and other astral kings do,” she explained. “In transcending mortality, I became a fully astral entity. It means that, by most measures, I don’t have a real body. I exist conceptually, as part of the deep astral. Immortal, with only the power of authority able to interact with my core self.”

“You can’t be killed, only sanctioned.”

“Yes. But I’m having trouble reconciling how my mind works in that state, compared to the mortal body I’ve always lived in. It’s a common issue for new transcendents. The solution is to maintain avatar bodies and use them to do my mortal-scale thinking, much as I did for the World-Phoenix as her prime vessel. It’s going to take me a while to get used to. I’ve been advised that sending my avatars to have new experiences, in new places and with new people will help me settle in. I’ve been largely avoiding my old life, using Raythe as my go between when dealing with old business.”

“Oh, you’re saying I’m old business,” he teased.

“Jason, I have trouble expressing the degree to which you are young business. Have you ever been around a child who’s had too much sugar, or an especially attention-seeking puppy? You know how your behaviour changes around them? You dumb it down, become more childlike. You have fun, don’t get me wrong, but you’re not exactly comporting yourself with the dignity you display in day-to-day life.”

“Not going to lie; that’s pretty hurtful,” he said, his words undermined by a chuckle.

“There’s nothing wrong with it, Jason. I met you at a time when I needed that. To remember what it is to be mortal, before leaving mortality behind. I believe that my failure to do so is responsible for cutting my time as a prime vessel short. The World-Phoenix needed someone to think like a mortal, not someone who rejected that. Now, I’m in the position of letting avatars do my mortal thinking for me. That would have been a more strenuous transition without your influence.”

“I’m still basically a dopey puppy in that scenario.”

“If it makes you feel better, you’re a puppy with a shotgun, a chainsaw and a big red button that fires a bunch of missiles.”

“No. That does not make me feel better.”

She laughed at his exaggerated pout and popped a grape in her mouth. Then she grabbed another and tossed it at him. He snatched it out of the air with his mouth.

“Just like a puppy.”

“I’m not a puppy,” he whined.

“If you two are quite done,” Raythe said as she walked into the clearing. “We should probably get to business.”

***

Jason, Raythe and Dawn stood outside the open inner airlock door. Past the window on the outer airlock door, Dawn’s dimensional vessel could be seen floating, still wreathed in bird-shaped flames.

“You could have docked it,” Jason said.

“It’s on fire.”

“In space, so don’t pretend that thing follows the rules. Also, I make the rules here.”

“Why would that matter if it doesn’t follow them?” Dawn asked.

“Yeah, well… go get on your bloody spaceship, then. When will I see you again?”

Dawn frowned.

“Not until after. I can’t help you, when the time comes,” she said. “The World-Phoenix has made commitments, and it has been made clear that I am not to intervene on your behalf. There is more flexibility with your friends, and I have made sure this will not blow back on them. Raythe will find you and reunite you with them. But you can’t tell them about any of this, obviously. Or your own avatar.”

Jason scowled, but only nodded in response.

“Let Raythe show you the nuances of avatar use,” Dawn told him. “She’s been at this a lot longer than either of us. Probably.”

She pulled Jason into a hug.

“Stay true to yourself,” she whispered into his ear. “The cosmos has seen a trillion growly, grim powerhouses, and it knows how to chew them up. The Battle of the Plants guy is someone they’re not ready for.”

“It’s Battle of the Planets. And Science Ninja Team Gatchaman is the original iteration of—”

“Nobody cares.”

She pushed him away and flashed a warm smile with only a faint tinge of sadness. He smiled back.

“Thanks for coming to see me.”

“Thanks for stealing a soul forge, becoming an astral king and using that power to repair the Cosmic Throne. There’s a lot of people out here wondering who did that, so you’d best hit diamond rank before they figure it out.”

“Wait, what? What do you—”

She stepped into the airlock and the door closed between them.

“Oh, come on,” he complained.

He watched as the outer airlock door opened, venting the air and Dawn into space. Her hair and eyes turned to fire. She floated over to her vessel, disappeared inside and then the ship itself was gone.

“How can she just say something like and bail?” he asked Raythe.

“This is your universe. Couldn’t you have deleted the door and filled the space with air to talk to her?”

Jason opened his mouth to respond, then slumped his shoulders and sighed.

“Damn it,” he muttered, the looked up at Raythe. “Hey, you know what she was talking about, right?”

“I don’t keep track of the cosmic community, sorry. It’s hard to make sense of, the way I look through time.”

He narrowed his eyes at her.

“Is that a lie because you want to avoid a conversation you find tedious?” he asked.

“Yes.”

***

From her office in Saint-Étienne, Anna joined a video meeting. The face of the US Secretary of State appeared on her screen.

“What can I do for you, Madam Secretary?”

“People are getting curious about Asano, Anna. He hasn’t been seen in weeks. Neither have most of his companions. We have the Geller boy fighting the vampires, and the silver-haired miracle healer. And there’s — and I can’t believe I’m about to utter this sentence — the shape-shifting rainbow dragon filming a Korean romance drama. Do you remember when any of this was even vaguely sane?”

“Claire, I come from a Network family. The magician at my seventh birthday party used actual magic, so… no.”

“Oh. Well, anyway, a lot of people are hoping for an update. The only thing that scares them more than Asano being everywhere is him being nowhere. And, to be honest, we could use some more powerful people in the fight against the vampires. We’re confident we’ve neutralised the nukes using the information gained from Elizabeth, but that’s the only good news. Those first attacks a few weeks ago were clearly a test, and they’ve been escalating their counterattacks since. There have also been attacks by people infested with vampire parasite worms, which we still have no way to effectively detect or remove without them killing the host.”

“I can’t tell you what Jason’s doing because I don’t know. He said training, and none of his avatars will say more than that. As for the parasites, we have people working on that, but we’re talking about reverse-engineering multiple kinds of magic that’s been Frankensteined together and we only found out about it a month ago. Figuring it out could take years, if ever.”

“So our own researchers keep telling me. I was just hoping that some of the magicians from the other world were having more success.”

***

“I think we’re on to something here,” Clive said. Also in the lab was his research society colleague, Lorelei, along with Neil, Carlos and Audrey, the Asano Clan’s energy vampire research director. Clive closed the file on the laptop in front of him and rubbed his temples.

“We should break for the night,” he said. “We don’t want to make a mistake here, so let’s get some rest and come at it fresh in the morning.”

“Good thinking,” Neil said. “Because you know who’s going to come at it tonight?”

He let out a yelp as he suddenly found Lorelei in his face.

“Who’s that Neil? Perhaps the archchancellor’s imaginary spouse? You have something to say on that front? A hilarious joke to share with the group?”

“Uh… no.”

Lorelei gave him a friendly and not-at-all-dangerous smile.

“Good,” she said brightly while Clive stared at her as if she’d grown an extra head. She held out her arm for him to take. “Shall we go, Archchancellor?”

A huge, if rather bemused grin crossed Clive’s face. He took Lorelei’s arm and let her lead him out. The others left behind all looked at each other.

“What was that about?” Audrey asked.

“I liked the old wife better,” Neil said. “The new one is scary.”

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Comments

mhaj58

I really missed Dawn. The way she and Jason bounce off of each other is truly incredible. She hates that she loves him and he loves that she hates him.

Dylan Alexander

Haha of course we’re not told what’s coming.

Sean Graham

We don't get the secrets to the next big bad?!?! Fade to black?!? I believe in your ability to setup a payoff but dammmmmn.

Zack Dehart

The ending! Perfect 👌

Michael Fannon

Lorelei is going to kill Clive's wife now isn't she? There can be only one after all.

CaptainFlowers

LMAO Clive getting aggressively wife'd up is fucking hilarious 😂

Buck

Clive’s wife: may she live long and prosper!

Alexander Dupree

Wait when did Jason sleep with her? We've been anticipating this conclusion for YEARS!

Arakrin

Oh for Thadwick’s sake, all that buildup, a goddamn week of waiting on one of the biggest cliffhangers of this series, and we still weren’t given the answer as to what the hell is going on???

Nathan Emerson

I really want to watch that Korean drama.

curtis gatley

Clive's SECOND Wife! I'm so excited for the new possibilities

Zack

They have forever for that. It'll be in book 57...probably

patrick__starz

Clive has a new wife? Is it the same woman he was working with when he was basically imprisoned by the Magic Society? I also hope she doesn't completely kill the clives wife jokes because those were amazing

Jeff

Why is Stach filming k dramas hahaha. He's always on a weird side quest

Michael Fannon

Sleep with who? Dawn? Right after he got the throne and gate when the meeting with the Astral beings happened. Zara? I think a couple chapters back. Farah? Not yet, but it will probably happen eventually considering they are both immortal and stuck together. Clive's wife? Very first book.

Spencer

Clive’s new wife!!!

Michael Fannon

Yes. And yes. And she can take the joke to the next level about how she got rid of his cheating ex.

Malekith

I am very worried that the teasing hints and blueballing will hype the big bad reveal and it will go poorly.

Crysus

This chapter should have been called “The old wife” both for the last line line as well as a euphemism for Dawn

SomeGuyWhoReads

You left me laughing like a madman. Well done.

Demi

If Jason's still making jokes after learning what's coming, it can't be all doom and gloom. My who'd dying theories are not so sound anymore.

J

Hahahahahahaha Niel you sweet summer child

Aaron

Love Lorelei in this!

ONEsie

So, Lorelei might finally clap some Clive cheeks, OKAY. I'm not sure I would recover though if my crush threw me through a ceiling, but I see you girl. LOL Update: "Archchancellor Standish, I need to talk to about — AARGH!” The woman who spoke was sucked through a hole that appeared in the ceiling in a rush of air. Miles saw her hurtling skyward before the hole closed again. Clive swept back into his office and slammed the door as most of the others scrambled to leave." It was a random woman not Lorelei...

Dalth

First off, what are you DOING Velitraxistaasch?! Second, battle of the plants is a teasing name when there’s the blood oak things running around. And last, most importantly, Clive finally got a real wife?!

Jan Salomon

hope the first one doesn't start drama about it

Jordan Rogers

Clive’s second wife reminds me of my first…👹in🥸

Aaron S

I swear to God. I had to go back and reread part of the chapter to realize she was even there. When I first read this, I thought because they were in Jason’s kingdom, someone had made a Clive’s wife joke, and Jason had magically summoned a phantom Lorelei to be the butt of said joke, not that she was actually present. Also, why is it that the least surprising part of this chapter is the part where stash has become a K-pop idol? I would very much like to believe that that’s some out of left field contrived bullshit. And yet I can’t stop myself from nodding “…..yeah that makes sense”

Mist Sparrow

We've been teased with the "what comes next" for almost 6 books now,can't say I enjoyed this elaboration of it.

Brian Glazier

If Jason doesn't get to know why should we

Ligeia

I watched a godawful Korean romance drama years ago that was so dumb I still can't believe I watched the whole thing. What on Earth (literally) is Stash doing??

Tim Walloch

Lol. I love "Clive's wife" jokes.

Ligeia

I KNEW we wouldn't get the answer today. You do realize that the more we anguish over cliffhangers, the more incentive Shirt has to draw them out as long as possible, right?

Joanna

Ahh, Stash becoming a movie star and Lorelei finally finding a way to get Clive's attention?!?! Amazing! ...And still doesn't make up for the increasing suspicion that we're going to get no info on the big bad till it arrives, even when Raythe has told Jason. Although it's possible that she hasn't told him yet? It's a little confusing with Dawn coming and going in this chapter, but I think/hope that she only swung by to confirm the warnings Raythe was giving, and now Jason's spending a bunch of time with Raythe in his universe learning how to hide things from his prime avatar before she tells him about the big secret, since he needs to not let it know. I guess we haven't missed the reveal yet?

Ken Sevier

Ah Dawn was back but just ling enough to remember we miss her. Good chapter but I really wish we would have gotten a little more insight on what is about to happen

Stuart T

Stash if filming a Korean romance?... He should be gathering all the biscuit recipes for his bakery/hoard I agree with Neil. Clive's new wife might be dangerous to a select group of people.

Attackins

Clive's wife is going to be very upset when he gets back to Pallimustus.

Pierce

Wow. Clive actually saw Lorelei for the first time ever. And Jason doesn’t think he and Zara will work? AND we still don’t know what the THING is?

Ligeia

Well, Clive has been utterly dense about her for so many years, I don't blame her for finally getting aggressive! I've thought she should do it since well before Jason went away to unsunder the throne!

Der Ritter

Sorry but the fade to black for the big news is bad story writing. If you dont want everyone to know dont put on the stage just to keep it under a blanket. The whole thing with the big bad was pointless writing that did nothing for charakter development or the story. I think thats the first time since i started with youre books that you disapoint.

Rabmuk

Lorelei was Clive's handler in book 6 epilogue, helped him escape from Lady aJuice (or something). Belinda thought she was faking her attraction, I think book 12 confirmed attraction was real.

Aaron S

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, will someone finally explain the sword of Damocles, that all the cosmic characters have been dangling in front of us on a stick?

FabianTheGreat

How dare you, Shirtaloon! SPILL THE DAMN BEANS

jacob butler

I think Lorelei is angry because maybe she felt she couldn't make a move since Clive was "married" and is mad when u the imaginary wife is brought up

BloodStorm

Are we ever going to find out what the new threat is? We’ve been teased about since book 5 or 6. I think now is a good time to at least let the readers know

Aaron S

Honestly for me, it’s not even that they keep not telling him although that is annoying. It’s that they still seem to be treating this as if it still is big a threat to him as it was when we first learned about it. It’s as if that element of the writing hasn’t adapted to fit the story being told around it. Because the level of power he’s reached right now is inconceivable, and I just don’t buy that it still as big of a threat to him now as it was back in the first transformation zone when Mr. North first hinted about it

Baeros

Clive's wife, at it again

Darren Williams

Is Lorelei finally closing in for the kill?! Honestly, I'm more curious about that than I am for whatever future nonsense Jason has to deal with.

Mist Sparrow

I think they did tell him , we just likely won't get to see it until it happens, similar to how Jason or the teams plans go. They happen off screen and then we see it happen as the plan is already in motion. It just especially annoying since there's been a 6 book lead up and we get a nothingburger.

Agent P.

The new one is scarier.

Aaron Pell

If the teasing goes on any longer, Belinda is going to make a rude joke about it and get us *all* in trouble.

Attackins

When did he ever throw Lorelei thru the ceiling? I just went to go check the chapter and can't find anything mentioning the name of the woman he threw, and the text made it seem like she was just a random person asking him questions.

Bingus McCready

Having that reveal off screen is so evil. I love it. TFTC!!!

Michael Romo

I am so happy I was wrong!!!

Kyle Hunter

That "What's your point" got me NGL

Larsi

Bit annoying we are not clued into what exactly is going on, but I guess you can argue that we are following the events from the mortal perspective of his avatar.

Malekith

Yes but counter point. If he hypes it up for too long then the reveal wont match the hype and itll be like season 8 game of thrones.

Kalanaere

That's it Loreli must go! I'm with Niel and this new wife is waaay to scary! Let's get the easy going old wife back, she got along with everyone

xXMetrinSlerbaXx

Yeah I'm dropping the patreon, tired of this blue balling.

Dalth

I think it’s more of Jason understanding that they are both very, very young, even by Gold rank standard, and that it will become super political between him and Zara on Pallimustus. Zara trashed her chances for Queen with using his name was a political issue, so finding out that she later does end up with him is major politics for Storm Kingdom. That’s without taking into account that he is a semi godlike figure on Palli. Imagine how the politics would work if someone on Earth was to say “By the way, one of the family members of the British Royal Family is now dating an actual God like Odin.” But Gods actually show up on Palli, so suddenly you have a country Princess dating a member of a working and active pantheon. It makes all interactions with that country a religious and political mess. It’s also one reason most places on Earth in real life have a separation of Church and State.

David Cooper

I feel like there were several chapters cut out of the middle of this chapter

Roro

Stash as a Korean Romance Drama star made my day!

John Durrett

Agreed. I like the old wife better! Tyftc

Attackins

That is certainly an opinion that you can have, I guess.

Daylan Ethridge

Theory; Palimustus evil gods and their followers trying to jump to Earth to start an evil god world without any goodie two shoes to ruin the cruelty. Something the regular forces are gods of palimustus would do anything, even scoure Earth, to stop.

Cory Olson

I've been thinking about the threat is one idea is the astral bridge it can be seen by anyone in the astral it glows so couldn't you just enter it and have direct access to earth and Palimastus there is a diamond rank pirate along with all the other astral empires who gonna stop by to say hi.

MoonRider777

Omg yes!!!! Dawn! I missed you so much lol. Also I am so happy with Lorelei 😆 I bet she is gunna go for it but i think by now she has changed her plans. Maybe she will formally offer him a relationship with a contract or something and list the pros and cons of marrying her for Clive. She knows clive so well now I cant wait to see how she convinces him to be in a relationship with her.

Brandon Brinkley

Yeah, I’m pretty sure this is setting the stage for Jason to face it without prior knowledge without spoiling it for us readers. Then suddenly he’ll have some info partway into the battle that he’s gonna use as a trump card to mitigate some damage/losses.

Attackins

I'd like to say that I love being able to read your chapters this way and hope you never change, but man I can understand authors not wanting to write this way. Just looking at many of the comments here and the insane levels of ownership and entitlement that people try to claim on the story is bonkers.

Ligeia

That's an interesting thought. It actually makes sense, unlike my thinking that Shirt is just torturing us for his own amusement. The way we tease our dog, making her watch as we fix some turkey (her favorite) to include tiny bits of in her dinner and take as long as possible for our own entertainment. 😅

Ligeia

But alas, cliffhangers are an integral and vital part of writing a serial...

Tsunami

Sometimes the banter is exhausting. Feels more like filler. Kinda lame we still don't have a little explanation of the teased cataclysmic scenario. Probably dropping and following on RR from here on out.

Chris Cahill

I also liked the old wife better

Telewyn

The Jason solution to the problem should be obvious. If time looping Earth causes problems because it’s synched with Palli time, he just needs to loop both worlds at the same time. How? 2 avatars. Or soul tree buddy sends his to Palli.

Ligeia

And her 6-book unrequited attraction caused her to always be referred to as "that poor woman Lorelei." I think she got tired of being called that for 20-odd years!

RonGAR

NGL, the first half of this chapter might as well have been empty air or obnoxious gas. It was just words and nonsense that explained and elaborated nothing. It should be law that authors who didn't start stories/novels as a time-loop should stay away from them altogether. That way we readers aren't socked in the jaw with one 991 chapters later. ------- Looks like Lorelai found the Key to Clive's heart. LOL Good for her. Hope she is not one of the soon-to-be 'victims' of the aforementioned nonsense. ------- Its shameful that Stash is more 'up to date' on current pop culture than Jason is. LOL Dude get out of the 80's. Nobody cares! LOL

Mist Sparrow

But it's More than a cliffhanger , it's been teased for many books now, it's not even a checovs gun, it's checovs sr71 blackbird -declassified decades after it was first introduced.

Dax

So did Jason.

Eric M

Glad to see Lorelei got tired of waiting and is trying something new, I think it will work as well.

Jon Stanfield

We got there! Congrats to Clive and his wife

Soli116

I wish I could heart this more. And some of these comments make me wish for a down vote button.

RonGAR

Agreed

ONEsie

"“Archchancellor Standish, I need to talk to about — AARGH!” The woman who spoke was sucked through a hole that appeared in the ceiling in a rush of air. Miles saw her hurtling skyward before the hole closed again. Clive swept back into his office and slammed the door as most of the others scrambled to leave." It was apparently a random woman, not Lorelei. I felt like there was definitely mention of her somewhere, but I'm probably just thinking about when they were talking about how Clive didn't notice that she was into him

Soli116

I'd rather read it as it happens.

Bitterblue Songbird

Personally I like the new wife. The old one wasn't scary ENOUGH.

Soli116

What is Stash is getting all the recipes while he's there? Secret recipes from grandma and stuff?

Michael Romo

Personally I loved the dawn banter. I missed it.

Hunter

You are reading this one chapter at a time. The whole story moves at a slow pace. If the pacing is the issue just wait for the book to come out. But also wtf shirt that dawn interaction was the most un needed thing in the story in years.

Andre Morales

Are we certain Jason kept the secret from his avatar. He had to tell himself something to trigger the intensive training shift for himself and his companions instead of being involved in all the currently unresolved plot elements.

Gwiddion

Totally agree people that can't handle cliffhangers or teases for mayor points of the story should stick to the books or read multiple chapters at once and take breaks in between. It would have surprised me a lot if we had been told what very likely is going to happen and what Jason mustn't do to try and stop it. Monday's chapter was the perfect point to take a large break and wait for more chapters to come out.

drink mer

I think the only reason Jason could even do the time loop is because of Earth being synced with Palli. Also Raythe even said that she doesn't know what happens if Jason does the time loop. It could be the solution or it could end catastrophically. From what I got from it Jason doing the time loop is the reason Raythe can't tell what happens because of interference caused by the time loop. Raythe and Dawn are just trying to convince Jason to accept whatever defeat is coming his way because it is a known outcome with minimal damage, while Jason doing the time loop is an unknown that could cause massive damage that would destroy atleast Earth's and Palli's universes. At least that's what I took from the last 2 chapters.

Adrian

Kage bushin no justsu!

Klint Knight

I love you and these books but this secret is starting to feel like book 3 of the King Killer Chronicles. I'm not sure it's ever going to happen.

Anthony

These chapters are freakin bouys in the ocean of my work week, keeping me from drowning. I needed that last laugh so bad!

Jake Thorpe

Wait, I'm confused, is dawn gone? Why did she visit? Just to tell Jason so listen to Raythe it seems like a whole chunk of conversation is missing. We have all been waiting for her to make a reappearance but it's like it was skipped over or am I misreading it and she hasn't left yet?

Alan Montgomery

Maybe I missed something but who is the Silver-haired miracle healer?

D Rod

Sophie

Alan Montgomery

Sophie isn't a healer. She has a cleansing aura but not a healer.

Gotrek65

We finally can make fun of real Cives wife and not fake Clives wife 🤣

joseph peltier

I think the info was skipped to set up a “I knew what I was doing all along” flashback during the time loop arch.

Betsy R

Not only are the ppl who get bent out of shape over the flow of the chapters as they’re posted but those that have to point out very minor typo as if that’s some kind of issue either are super annoying to me as well…this is edited very well overall and nitpicking seems silly

Trevor Counceller

Nonetheless, the cleansing aura can remove afflictions and “heal”, even if it’s not a traditional +HP boost.

Joseph Jenkins

Just started listening to the NotW audiobook. I've been coping to myself that he's going to release an announcement next year for Wise Mans Fear's 15th anniversary or the year after on the 20th anniversary of NotW

Mike Chatman (edited)

Comment edits

2026-09-06 06:00 So she finally decided to shoot her shot huh? Good for her! Good for Clive too, he deserved someone better than his first wife. She was shared more than open source software… I mean if you believe the rumors.
2025-03-06 00:26

Klint Knight

It's a great series but I don't think we will ever get book 3.

Jake Thorpe

I guess if he's only letting us know what the avatar knows it makes sense he would skip the conversation with raythe but it's disappointing with dawn I thought we would get at least 2-3 chapters with her visiting and catching up with emi and farrah

Sena

Better than yours

LunarLilith

In one of the chapters, Sophie was running around parts of the world using her aura to heal people as she went by.

Michael Deleon

Did they just kill Clive’s wife cause that feels like it!!

mhaj58

Shirty why did you describe Sophie as a silver haired miracle healer? Her aura is a cleansing power and all her strength lies in moving fast and hitting through things.

Aaron Van Wormer

A real gold rank cleansing aura on earth is a healer in itself lol.

NethanielShade

You’re almost 1,000 chapters into this story and like it enough to pay money on patreon to read it, and you’re complaining like a petulant child about something that hasn’t happened yet. Do you have no faith in the author that you, once again, have read almost 1,000 chapters of his story and pay literal money to read? Have a bit more faith that Shirt can write well and pull it off before you start bitching in the comments. Jesus Christ.

Crow Says Caw

Fucking finally! Clive has been the butt of that shit joke for too long haha Now Jason just needs to learn to take the piss out of his own chin before anyone else! Missed a good opportunity when Dawn said the space ship was shaped like his head tbh “the chin adds so much more room!” TFTC!

NethanielShade

The “explain the plan off screen and then show the plan actually happen on screen” is a classic example of show, don’t tell, and is a popular trope BECAUSE it’s GOOD story writing. You can’t just say something is bad story writing because you personally are too impatient to wait for the climax of the story. Smh

Malcolm

Bruh when r we gonna find out what this threat is, I can’t take it anymore 😭😭😭

NethanielShade

I feel sorry for Shirt having to deal with these comments. Some people really just cannot handle having early access to things. Just as some people can’t handle playing games in an alpha state and demand more and more from devs, some people can’t handle reading chapters weekly and should really just wait for the books to come out fully and read it all at once. Yall are acting like children.

RonGAR

@MoonlitShade You right... If i dont like it, I'll just stop paying and leave. Now you could fuck off too!

SmokeJam

We are here to pay respect to Clives old wife. May she rest forever in imaginary peace.

james foster

Please remind me who Lorelei is.

RonGAR

She's not going anywhere... she's been here since book 1. Come to think of it, she's been more of a team biscuit member than Jason has! Yikes!

RonGAR

I don't see the point in knowing if the ultimate goal is, accept it and 'do nothing.' My point is, WhY bring it up at all, if that is what you want the result to be?

Brad Gammey

OH MY GOD THIS WAS SUCH A GOOD CHAPTER! I laughed so much, felt so excited, and I still feel like I'm in the dark! The suspense, the tease, it's sooooo good!

Eric M

That was his supervisor when Clive was trapped in a magic Society research center, she was the one who helped break him out with Belinda, but he was clueless as to her interest then, but based on his reaction he may be aware of it now, or he isn't as smart as everyone gives him credit for...

Mike Zebill

Lorelei worked for the magic society branch that basically kidnapped Clive. She was the one the helped him escape. When Clive started his own magic research institute she joined him becoming the assistant director.

Jlee1014

I suppose its the perspective of her on earth just walking through cities cleansing people of their sickness. Would seem pretty miraculous, no?

RonGAR

@Tsunami & @Hunter I agree w/ both of you. Banter about old cartoon/anime that no one knew or gave much a crap about has gotten old and tired. Time to get up to date on current event so you can do 'new banter' and reference material that ppl could laugh with you about instead of just looking at you confused. You are a half-transcendent nexus being and gold rank avatar. I say its more than past time you stop talking bout anime and airwolf and level up your conversational skills. Surely there a website Jason can go to to watch a few movies and tv shows. I bet Marvel Avengers must look awesome in this universe. LOLOLOL

triscuit73

Jason's cleansing power could clear pretty much every disease and illness that exists at iron rank. I'd imagine Sophie's at gold is stronger than that and as an aura ability can stretch out to hit a lot of people all at once over a fairly large distance. Add in her speed and she can probably cure entire cities of disease and sicknesses in minutes, miracle healer kinda fits.

Vodyinoi

Great chapter! I laughed a lot!

Reaperess

So, did anyone else get the impression the Dawn basically encouraged Jason to DO THE TIME LOOP AND SAVE SCUM THE MYSTERY THING?!

RonGAR

Hold up... hold up... There is no way Jason doesn't know Raythe and Dawn are in his Soul space. And he did say he can 'replay' everything that happens in soulspace if he concentrates on it? Sooo, how can one of his internal avatars keep a secret from him in there? Im sure those two have a few tricks they would likely try, but its Jason's soulspace, if he wanted it badly enough, he would just override whatever they used. When he gets serious and stops acting goofy that is. Sooo maybe it was their plan to indirectly 'inform' him after all.

Terrence White

I have faith that Shirt will pay off this crazy secret he is building too, so I am not sweating this chapter and taking it for what it is, banter with fan favorite characters

Harbby

CLIIIIIIVE

Zack

I think you might have it backwards. In his Astral Kingdom (soul space), he is everything, meaning no secrets can be kept from him. This is who they told the secret future events to. They asked Overmind-Kingdom-God-Jason to keep this information secret from his Prime Avatar, which is the body that can leave his domains and function as a mostly typical gold ranker.

Ethan

Good for Lorelei. The poor woman was trying to get him to notice her for something like a decade.

RonGAR

@Zack... yeah had that backwards. He told God to keep it from Avatar Jason. Sooo that should mean God J can easily stop Avatar J from doing anything, right? #StayTuned

Cromegas_Flare

Jason is the Soul Space. His avatar is just a mortal construct. Jason can withhold information from his prime avatar as his prime avatar is not his true self. The Astral Kingdom is his true self.

Ligeia

More like two or more -- she first met Clive when Jason was killed in the astral space, so at the time of his first return to Earth, in book 3! So he was about 25 or 26 at the time and now he's in his 40s. Lorelei waited FAR too long, IMO!

Ligeia

We all know there's no way Jason won't do anything, though, no matter what Raythe wants.

Doodlyboy15

Yep, new Clive-stan wife is scary. Honestly, good for Clive, he's been a mess since his wife left him.

Milc/C.J. Milnes

Nice to see a Clive’s wife joke again! Whenever I see Archchancellor it makes me think of Terry Pratchett. I think Clive would have hated Mustrum Ridcully.

Uri David Akavia

I'm bit confused. So Dawn showed up, confirmed the bad thing that is going to happen? We didn't get the details, but Jason did? And did Jason agree about not doing a timeloop or did he disagree?

Der Ritter

I would argue that it is popular becouse it is cheap. It is a quick and easy way to produce tention and anticipation without doing much. It does nothing for the story progression or for the charakter progression. It could have been empty Apart from the funny banter. To call me impatient after 6 books of waiting is also just lazy argumenting. And im fine waiting 4 more becouse in generall they are good.

Erik Bekke

That's so rude of lorelei to call Clives ex wife imaginary

3rdImpact

Yes nice cliffhanger right there . ...

3rdImpact

Yes and no.... Maybe do the time loop more responsible...

TheLionOfThePacific

middle of the chapter cliffhanger, we need to cordon this chapter off they're evolving.

Lesley Holmes

Thinking of Jason as 40 is sooo hard 😔

Daniel Wills

I don’t think we get to know, but Jason’s true self knows. We’ll find out when Jason’s avatar learns.

Kismet

I wonder if it's a period drama! Stash would be amazing.

Manowar

One thing that was mentioned is that Raythe and Dawn would help him in how he could keep things from his prime avatar. The prime avatar probably knows they visited and things are kept from it. See it as that the prime avatar knows what we know.

Manowar

I see those comments more like banter and believe no one is serious about not being able to handle it. All in good fun :)

Manowar

I think the avatar knows what we know. So he knows something is coming, just not what like us.

Stephen Haynes

Woooow got us well hyped up for the big reveal and then nothin huh? 😆 thanks for the chapter!

David

Because the people on Earth are dumb and still don’t understand that magic is a thing?

J Holmes

Patrick Rothfuss wrote himself into a corner and can't find a way out. There is way too much left to explain in only "one day" of story telling. His narrator has to renege on his promise to wrap things up in one book or the author has to retcon/ignore the initial 3 day promise, at the very least. There's a *lot* of loose threads that won't wrap up nicely in one more book. ... oh, and Rothfuss has to actually write when he tells people he did writing. Or just give up, whatever. He doesn't owe us anything. Whatever you may be able to say about the speed of plot progression in HWFWM, Shirt has been very good about regularly releasing chapters... and not like we're at Dragonball Z levels of just charging up for a whole chapter, so I'm not super worried.

J Holmes

I think the Discord has a channel for typos. AFAIK, Shirt rarely reads the comments here.

J Holmes

It's popular because it's foreshadowing the audience *can't miss*. There are wildly varying levels of literacy; not everyone catches subtext. Sometimes you gotta do the Simpsons-esque superliminal "HEY YOU! Join the Navy!"

William Lane

HYPE Clive and Neil Banter!!!

William Lane

To be fair, she isnt telling him to do nothing, shes telling him dont save scum

Sabroso JFD!

Hahahaha i love that comment. Never have i heard that before, if you don't mind I'm stealing that for the next time my friend is fooling around

joseph peltier

See, he could just have someone break into the inn, forcing them to run. Then they’d have all the time in the world!

Suessanah

Iiiiii wouldn't do that *grin* I like to do that not-at-all dangerous smile too, but only to point out that the offender arrived at treshold border and if they move forward they accept an inevitable undisclosed punishment later. Spoiler - I grin cause I'm already plan out the punishment ):D muhahahahaaaa

Suessanah

OMG Not the Relationship contract !! ;DDD But seriously, I'd like for them to just happen with Clive either realising it out of nowhere and decides, or realising it mid some action. Preferable when they're solving something and get it done because they know each other and what the other would do. Though Lore is order to Clive's genius... just thinking about possibilities with those two makes me smile...

Suessanah

That's alright :D *grin*

Suessanah

I like your post :) you formulated your responce politely unlike some here. Thank you :)

Aaron Lack

Oh Lorelei and Clive’s wife throw down…Clive’s wife will of course win. I’m waiting for Jason to create Clive’s wife out of whole cloth when he visits Jason’s universe

Suessanah

Nn, Loreli is mentioned as his "second in commans" and Belinda remarks "That poor woman" ooooor something along those lines close to your quots.

Ken Sevier

Well can't be made at an author it's theory story to tell how they tell it :) plus it does add some mystery

Suessanah

I agree on everything apart from Farah... just can't imagine that *shrug*.

DirePants

Dude, you’ll bust your load eventually, enjoy the foreplay for now.

Mike Chatman (edited)

Comment edits

2026-09-06 06:00 lol I’m confused at why everyone is mad at the Dawn scene. It was full of information and world building. A lot of things you can infer or speculate about. And like… do you really think your opinion of his artistic choice is going to change his mind? It won’t. Hell, last I heard TFD is still writing esoteric essays for chapters and my rant on the last chapter I paid for literally changed nothing lol but that’s the important information here. You can leave. You don’t own the story. You’re licensing the right to read it. So, like, stfu already with the unnecessarily rude comments. You can be displeased like an adult and not a petulant, partial brained child.
2025-03-07 05:20

Catherine

“And there’s — and I can’t believe I’m about to utter this sentence — the shape-shifting rainbow dragon filming a Korean romance drama.” How many biscuits do you think will feature in this drama?

Spicyice101

Or at the very least don’t save scum until the collapse of a point in time, maybe he’s allowed to do it once or twice, but not as many times as he would have done without the warning?

Joseph Sarafinko

The real question is how many biscuits do you think they're paying him?

Tsunami

Feel better?

SqrlyGrly

But would he have gotten along with ponder?

mockery jones

I would absolutely watch a shape shifting rainbow dragon in a k-drama

Jessica Olson

I don't think he said whether he would agree to not do the thing without being able to hear about it. So if he didn't make that agreement she wasn't going to tell him what the thing was. It's possible he did make the agreement but the author didn't want us to know the answer.

Daniel Storm

If it makes you feel better, he's only 40 in the literal sense. He's been perpetually stuck at like... late 20's or something for a while.

DasGoat622

The only question I have is how does this impact amphorae futures?

Kconraw

Thx for the chapter

Justin

Formatting - hair turned to normal, if vibrant red locks Normal, if vibrant, red locks

Kelly

Finally!

Raves

Wait Neil referenced her as his new wife... Did they actually get married and we just didn't know?

Kbzzy

So Zara is temporary as well. I should just start skim reading Jason’s romances instead of getting invested in them as there’s never any intention of long term romance, only vehicles for emotional manipulation before the relationship ends for any and every manner of reason

Opossums Coat

It’s so good to see Dawn again! Loved this chapter

daniel riley

Let me hear all the thoughts on the hidden danger ! Based of title of chapter I think it's something to do with messengers maybe . But they weren't really a think when Dawn left. Hmmm not sure not sure

Kristy Riedel

I think it is unrealistic to expect Jason to marry and start a family and have that wife and kids be as eternal as he is. Farrah will be his companion for eternity, as will any of his friends he can bring to immortality. Zara may well reach that goal, but so far her goals are for improving Pali, not in playing some cosmic role like Jason has been forced to become. Invest in the relationship and the growth they get from it rather than bemoaning that it may not be eternal. This isn't a romance book.

Tie

Definitely not a puppy. Grapes are toxic to dogs.

Cilantro

I would totally watch stash in a K drama.

StarkRG

Everything is temporary at long enough timescales. "Happily ever after" depends primarily on when you stop telling the story.

Chloe

Tyftc

Vodyinoi

I love this chapter. There's lots of good here but the absolute best is Lorelei. Absolute perfection, Shirt! 👩‍🍳😘

Immortal R.C.

He basically is Stibbons w Jason as his Riddcully.