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If I moved to my own website, would you come with?

  • Sure, I'd shift to a website with you! 284
  • Sorry mate, Patreon only for me. 64
  • 2023-08-28
  • 348 votes
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Content

Hey all!Pretty simple, it's in the title. I've been thinking about this for a while, but if I did it, I can only do one or the other, I couldn't do both... here are my reasonings, I'll try and keep each one brief, but I also know what I'm like 😆1 - Patreon censorship!You might not know this, but technically possession content is not allowed on Patreon because it can be seen as 'unconsenual sex'. I know some other creators who also have gotten suspended or banned because of this, and I'm quite afraid I'm going to wake up one day and not have a Patreon anymore, or at the very LEAST have to delete ALL my possession content off this platform. 😥This wouldn't be good obviously, and having my OWN site would solve this! As well as if I ever want to do darker/more intense/more lewd stuff, I can!

2 - Pareon's ABSURD fees!Patreon takes A THIRD of your money - 33%. That is HUGE compared to any other website fees... and THEN I have to pay the people that help me such as my editor and writers, and THEN I have to pay tax on TOP of that (which in Australia is a lot)... which means I see a very small percentage of what you all support me with 😅So needless to say, even though with my OWN site I'd still have to pay fees, they'd be a lot less than that and I'd be better off for it!

3 - Better pirating protection!You know how I have to do the dance of sending multiple posts per drop with links and it's all confusing?... This is for anti-piracy and it still doesn't work well, but I don't want to make it harder and more annoying for YOU guys who support me like other creators do with passwords and direct messages and all that.On my OWN site it'd get past all that as Patreon-scraping pirate websites wouldn't work on me, and it'd make things easier for you AND me! 🙂

4 - Streamline everything!On top of not needing to post links and all that crap, I'd also be able to design my website how I like and properly organise all my content to make it SUPER easy to find!Patreon's way of keeping content is a pain in the ass and very messy and confusing, so I'd be able to sort it all out for you to find exactly what you're looking for when you want it 🥰

Final thoughts:If I did this, I'd keep it as smooth and simple of a transition as I can. It would be the same price, you'd get emails with updates if you want them, but just be on a different site that looks different and is easier to navigate 🙂But this only works if I do one or the other, not both. If I had both, then all these problems of piracy, fees and censorship still happen and I just end up doubling my posting workload instead.

So if you have any questions or things you want me to clarify, please comment or message me! I'd love to hear your thoughts 💜

Much love,Nexy xx

Comments

Truck

I'd move to any site to continue to support you Next, Whatever you stick/go with I'll come along with ya!

Nexstat

Thank you Rick! I appreciate that 🥰

Bill Norris

What would you do for billing?

Nexstat

Do you mean what options? Same as Patreon ideally, Credit card, PayPal, Stripe, basically all the regular stuff. If you mean price and tiers and stuff, I'd make it the same as Patreon with $5 and $10 levels, but I can also then make discounts and stuff for longer subscriptions and have more freedom with deals and discounts 🙂 Was that what you were asking?

Ferral

Yeah I would follow you elsewhere in all honesty. Sucks that Patreon takes a third.

Nexstat

Yeah, it's a big chunk! Thanks Jeffy 💜

Aluminumati

As long as the content is what we want, I'm sure the platform isn't a problem. It's not that patreon pay us to stay here lol

Nexstat

Haha yeah, but people in general just don't like change so it's always a tough sell for an artist to uproot a community and move it somewhere else, even if it's for a good reason 🙂 I don't blame anyone who wants to stay on Patreon, but it seems so far at least the majority agree with you which is awesome! 🥰

Aribeth

And let's say, maybe I could even help you with that :3 Been thinking too about moving 100% to my website tho

Nexstat

Hehe! I wouldn't say no to some private tutoring 😋

Kawee

Go ahead, Nexy! You've thought it through— I'm with you. Lead the way! ^,^

Nexstat

Thanks Kawee! I appreciate that 🥰💜

Auzinger

I just joined your patreon so I didn't even know you had a website

Nexstat

Haha, I DON'T have a website! This was to find out if I should MAKE one, so you haven't missed anything 😋

Kawee

🫡

Aj

id move to another site, especially since it means you’d get a bigger percentage of the 10 dollars , i never really thought about patreons cut, they must have gotten a lot of money from me and others 😅

Nexstat

I don't have a website yet, I'm trying to decide if I should make one 🙂

Nexstat

Haha, they definitely have! They've taken a third of the money you guys have sent me for the past four years straight 😅

Aj

wow yeah you definitely should switch to your own site cause ik having that extra money would be helpful and so it’s not just getting thrown at patreon with their lackluster piracy protection lol

Nexstat

Yeah, I wish I knew about it sooner! They make it LOOK like it's only 7% fee... but they hide stuff in the fine print which brings it up to 33% 😥 I only learned this recently sadly...

Ø

So you moving to the site would allow you to make more explicit content with you getting paid more, would there be a change in uploads like when or would we get more content since you would be make more from it ?

Reggie

I'd move. You're my only sub atm, and you and your crew are probably the best I've seen with 3d models and rigging for this content (let alone your tags). I like your stories and your interconnected universe, and ya'll deserve the best cut you can get.

Aj

wow that’s pretty shady of them , but from looks of it most people will follow you to your own site which is good cause you won’t lose much income :)

Swishy Slip

I don’t know if I’m allowed to vote, and if this puts me in a wonky place with our HR 🥹 (I vote for nexyland.org.gov.uk.sloot) 👌

MrInternetMan

What about splitting the difference? I'm a little wary of setting up a payment plan with another website, since Patreon has a degree of validity to it with it's payment structure. But if you could focus on possession content on your own website, and have F2F content for Patreon, it might be a good way to serve both parties. You could do what another poster, Telsis, does. They don't post images on Patreon. What they do is provide a link to a series of Google Documents that people can access and has an access code that changes every few months.

Nexstat

It's possible, but my bottle neck for my workload is time, not money. But more money would mean I have more wiggle room to hire outside help. This would free me up to make other projects and different stuff you might like! 💜

Nexstat

Naww, thanks so much! That really means a lot 💜

Nexstat

If you're worried about payment options, you don't need to! I will offer all the same payment options Patreon does, and in fact more! Cards via Stripe, PayPal, ApplePay, and currently looking into Google Pay. I can even offer paying with crypto if people want that for whatever reason! If those aren't secure... then Patreon isn't either! 🙂 Splitting the posting is the thing I DON'T want to do, because it just keeps the problems I listed above and defeats the purpose. It means I have to continue paying Patreon's ridiculous fees, doubles my workload to post updates AND pirates still have easy access to the content. Even if I add some extra measures and do what Telsis does, that means extra work for me again and messing around my Patreons with passwords and obscuring the ease of access I want for the people who support me. Just having it all on a single website solves EVERY problem in a way more simplified way by cutting out the fees, no longer being susceptible to scraping sites for piracy, streamlining MY work by meaning I only have to post in one place, and making it SUPER easy for the people who support me to just find, read and download the comics whenever and however they want 🙂

Meioi

Would probably shift. Hope you also think about protection/security of the information for login, billing etc. . It wouldn't be funny to get more spam or worse the hassle when, with the payment-information, something other is bought to get the money back. Or some other fraud wit the information. Don't know how good Patreon is on this front but for me it seems the most difficult part when setting a site up.

Nexstat

Yep, thought of all that 💜 I'd be offering the same (and more) payment options as Patreon for secure payment, and am currently looking into account security. Going with a big site-making brand seems like the best way to go so far for securing info!

Ø

Does that also mean if you switch content will be more explicit?

Nexstat

It means I can be if I want to. Do you WANT more explicit content?

TROUBLETRO

Thinking about this too.. can you share me your thoughts and workflow? :)

Nexstat

Well to be honest I'm still trying to work out how I want to run it in my head! 😅 I'll be trying to run it as similar to Patreon as I can in terms of tiers, but I'm also thinking about breaking the 'tiers' apart so that people can sub to EITHER one rather than having to sub to the $10 even if they are not interested in the $5 comic... 🤔 I'd love to have a chat about it though if you wanna spit ball between us! Hit me up on Discord if you wanna throw some ideas around 💜

Zeno

Maybe you two and Jovian16 (who seem to be the only people producing ftf transformation content) can share the same website for the sake of simplicity if you intend to move, and find a very secure and reliable payment solution? I do not know if MrInternetMan also wants to try producing 3D art stories there at some point.

Nexstat

I have considered making the website open to other creators to use as well, already had a couple others ask me if that might be possible and it may be, but I've gotta figure out how to even MAKE a website before I think about making things even more complex 😅 As for secure payment I've got Stripe handling cards and PayPal as an alternate method so it's as secure as it can be! 💜

guerilliagardener

"...If I moved to my own website, would you come with?..." Any Idea what the monthly subscription will cost than?

Nexstat

I haven't worked out the details yet, but I still definitely want to keep it at $10 max for all my work just like on Patreon 💜

Zeno

Okay. That is good then. 🙂