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14. Don't Try (Patreon)

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2024-01-09 17:57:35
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0:00 The art of ageing/growing alongside people/it's never too late to begin anything/living with regrets and moving beyond your parents
41:28 The difference between male and female groups
55:18 How do you bridge between your positive outlook and darker interests/stop overthinking/making it your main goal to be true to yourself
1:15:03 CRPGs and Graphic novels
1:21:37 Mike and Melissa/working with people from school and college
1:43:56 Old internet round-up/nostalgia critic/Adam Lanza footage

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Esteban Rodriguez

"I like laughing. Never trust a person who doesn’t have a sense of humor." - Teodor Currentzis I ponder on this quote a lot from the Greek conductor in how it’s not just humor for humors sake that I take away from that quote but more also just being more open about everything in art and life. ‘High brow’ and ‘low brow’. Life doesn’t have to be 100% serious or 100% juvenile. Which has very much been something that I have tried to embrace more. Particularly, in relations to the media I loved when I was a child and other media I now love as an adult, I am very much inspired by Baby Einstein and Battle for Dream Island as much as I am inspired by Goya and Jodorowsky. And all of this is because they all still have spoke to me on a personal emotional level. By the way, by far the most mediocre to average director I have ever seen has to be John Lee Hancock. Even his name is so average. And nothing he has done has been either amazing or horrendous at all to me. Just average to mediocre. How the hell do you do that?

Sophia Lambton

Happy belated Birthday, Luiza! I know the feeling. I don't get particularly excited anymore either. I believe the norm of hating your job goes back to a kind of British (and by extension Anglo-Saxon, so WASP-ish likewise) love of puritanic self-punition. Even though most people are no longer religious, I still feel a need to suffer for an unpromised reward runs through our nation. We are the land of fake smiles (though of course the U.S. supersedes us in this area). I would love to hear Luiza's impressions of how much this is true in Brazil. As someone who's lived in Paris I can tell you the French couldn't give a damn about respecting their bosses (or, sometimes, even just showing up). "They're so weird" is just a way for others to excuse their own incomprehension. Pretty sure most people listening here are "the people doing their own thing in the corner" at social events. Russian women are very honest (sometimes brutally), and totally not afraid to make fun of their friends. I also loved your explanation of why you watch awful films. Most works have *some* level of effort funnelled into them. I am additionally putting in a request to have a whole podcast dedicated to discussions of your former classmates/teachers', erm, "movies".

Sophia Lambton

P.S. I've watched "Lorenzo's Oil"! I actually liked it. I thought Susan Sarandon was pretty fantastic.

Sophia Lambton

Does the Deep Dive Delivery come with deep pan pizza?

Esteban Rodriguez
>>126594725

I can confirm I still am one of these "people doing their own thing in the corner". Even in my huge family gatherings. However, I have been able to get over that a lot in the last 5 years or so.

Rebecca Orton

Thank you for your advice on making the darker arts. Making work that goes to extreme and macabre places can be hard because, on one hand, I’m worried that if I devote myself to it wholly then it will take me into darkness. On the other hand, there is definitely an element of shame involved. I think that comes from making things as a child and showing them to respectable adults with pride, only to watch them react with repulsion. You’re right, there is a huge element of letting go of what people will think. Something I’m getting better at for sure. In my personal life I’ve never cared what people think of me but in my WORK? Omg it’s so SCARY! Putting your insides out there is so vulnerable. But at the end of the day I’m facing the fact that, for me, greatness and darkness are mutually inclusive. Anything else will probably be shite so I’m working very hard on overcoming these fears.

hyperballadbrad

I liked the discussion on those school days being the height of some people's lives. My mind went to the obvious trope of the 'High School football star' who didn't make it and harks back to the good old days. The Beauty Queen is a similar one. Both examples taken from TV shows or songs.... American references of course. More locally, you would often hear the tale of a young footballer who made it to youth academy, and would have made it big if only they did not get that injury. There could be much study into what makes it.... and beyond school as people grow up...... the fears we cling to, risk of fair, of humiliation, uncertainty from the rigid, hyper real social structures that schools create.... followed by the eventual escape into the real world. No wonder people get to a point that they feel so lost. After being built up in such artificial environments.... or spending the time being ignored.... or even earmarked for 'trouble'.... then being suddenly let loose. Fear is a definite driver. Fear and a lack of self belief and agency. It ties in to the fears people have of change, of trying something new, or making the effort..... any of hope of those things, seemingly, being eroded as one gets older. Many people hold on to misguided hopes that if they conform, they can be accepted or just get by. It erodes, too, connection and a sense of value and purpose.... a need to simply 'get by'...... when really what people would benefit from finding is a little bit of peace. Life rarely brings happiness... and if it does it may be fleeting...... but peace I think goes beyond that and can be used to engage, connect and create.

Eric Drozda

The great Jacques Tati didn't make his first film until he was in his forties. Once I learned about that I became less insecure about my accomplishments so far in life. Its true, its never too late to try new things.

Jason

No creative is truly a creative if they don’t possesses any kind of humor. Even the darkest and most macabre stories need it. Bret eastern Ellis always says the best writers are funny. Louis-Ferdinand Céline, Ellis, DeLillo, Dostoevsky, Houellebecq, or even Nietzsche…. They all have a quick wit and riddled with black humor Rock-a-doodle was a serious blast from the past. I can’t believe I just heard somebody mention it.

Esteban Rodriguez
>>126716330

I definitely agree. Not even just humor but just a small ounce of purity can make something whole. That’s a very common idea in all of my favorite films. If it was all just a negative emotion I felt I would not have that film in my mind for very long. Example would be that dance with the rainbow in 'Come and See'. It’s such a powerful moment to me because of the contrast with how the rest of the film makes me feel.

Esteban Rodriguez
>>126622801

I can’t remember the exact quote but something that conductor Teodor Currentzis once said to his orchestra was how their profession is "where we have to be vulnerable." That I think goes for any art. It can, has, and I think should be something that the collective embraces instead of hiding from it. Only then will that give us full courage.

J George

Feliz aniversário (atrasado) Luiza!

Edward Is

I definitely watched “Rock-a-doodle” as a child