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The Lost City Has Been Cancelled Because of OGL 1.1 (Patreon)

Published:
2023-01-10 02:12:46
Imported:
2026-06

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I am reading OGL 1.1 right now. It says:

"To be clear, OGL: Non-Commercial only allows for creation of roleplaying games and supplements in printed media and static electronic file formats. It does not allow for anything else, including but not limited to things like videos, virtual tabletops or VTT campaigns, computer games, novels, apps, graphics novels, music, songs, dances, and pantomimes,. You may engage in these activities only to the extent allowed under the Wizards of the Coast Fan Content Policy or separately agreed between You and Us."

In other words, I cannot film a game adaptation of The Lost City because it would be considered commercial and The Lost City is the property of WoTC. If I did, they could level a copyright strike against my channel. Three such strikes would get my channel removed from YouTube. 

Therefore, I cannot proceed with The Lost City. 

I also will need to edit every reference to the module "The Veiled Society" out of the supercut. 

More details to follow.

--PDM





Comments

baldrage

Goodbye, Lost City. Hello "City of the Lost!"

Jason King

This makes me so sad. Thanks for for all you do for us PDM!!

Bagel-Man

That’s really unfortunate and I’m sorry to hear that PDM. I as well as many others were looking forward to seeing your take on that classic module. I will however continue to look forward to and support any content you release.

David Lake

This entire event makes me believe more than ever how wrong everyone was to think that gamers ran WOTC and to some extent, Hasbro. Anyone who has been in the hobby for longer than a week can see that none of this language leaves anything resembling a win/win or compromise of any kind from this document. This thing is written to be 100% in their favor in every possible aspect. There are literally no concessions given when compared to the original document that happily existed for 22 years.

Bark Madly

So sorry, PDM! Godspeed!

David Ford

I don’t know how much cursing is allowed in comments, so I will just state how disappointed I am. The OGL chickens are coming home to roost. 🐓

Giulliano Salgarello

I am so sad. I was hoping for an amazing campaign. PLEASE pdm proceed and just change the names

Bryan Stephens

How sad. Good things you have Caves of Carnage

Joel A.

Ugh. That sux, PDM. We know you put you're heart ❤️ and soul 👻 into all those vids. Support vibes sent! Backing you and your site 💯 percent.

Terry Barney

Lol I just ordered the Lost City so I could follow along. Hopefully they revise the OGL1.1.

Jeff Krus

All of this WoTC stuff is c$@&... This leads to me that maybe, just maybe Hasbro/WoTC is more money trouble than we thought. I friend of mine is in the financial world of all of this and he said Hasbro is in money trouble but who knows for sure..I think in the long run they do not want any analog D & D, just digital D & D.. So they can control everything, i.e money.... This is the beginning stages of the D & D Civil War/ D & D Revolution... If all the RPG/Gamers/Independents unite and stick together, Hasbro/WoTC will have a big mess on their hands, and I think they would end up a huge mess on their hands.....

stormwulf47

This is all unfortunate, and I hate that this is affecting all the hard work you have put in for us, patrons, and viewers. We will continue to support you, and I, for one, am looking to the revamped Deathbringer. I've been running a DB campaign with some friends and it might be my go to from now on.

baldrage

Could be a just short-sighted cash grab, but I think (FWIW) it is the result of an unholy union between Hasbro's corporate greed and the totalitarian impulses of the wokesters at WOTC to control how people play D&D.

baldrage
>>99286716

Or could just call it "Red Nails," since the original Lost City is just a ripoff of Howard's Conan story.

Steven Sweet

Well ... shit. They're a corporation, they know the current popularity of D&D is probably near it's peak and they want to leverage/milk that as much as possible. They have no interest in sustainability. In a previous career I worked in a fisheries adjacent field. When an executive from one of the big at-sea processing fleets was asked if he was aware his methods would destroy his own livelihood, his reply was something along the lines of "we'll get as much as we can out of this and when it crashes we'll move on to something else."

Jonny Himes

Don't drop THE LOST CITY plans, Please! Just call it something else, make it your own thing.

Steven

So it Begins.

Brian Leet

I'm so sorry and angry for you. Even trying to move away from the whole D&D core it sounds like you're caught in the dragnet of Hasbro greed. Undeserved.

knghtbrd

Do you mind if patrons discuss this elsewhere? If you intended that not be done, I don't wanna do it. If you're fine with that, it's time to start telling people that stuff related to playing the game, talking about the game, promoting the game … is already being cancelled because the language of this disney villain level brand suicide is killing the game.

Lemonsaurus

That's a shame.... I hope in the background you can work on such a campaign and assuming this blows over you can go ahead with it and ideally it could speed up production...or maybe that's just my wishful thinking

Gregory Helding

Are you sure you can’t put it up under the Fan Content Policy? It seems to cover video presentations as long as you don’t charge people to view them.

MrGunn

Wow, this sucks.

James Archer

I'm sorry you have this grief over your head PDM. Whatever you end up deciding your going to do about this were all with you.

Graham Kane

The level that this has reached is hard to believe! Just let me echo the sentiments of everyone here when o say you have my support, whatever direction you decide to take.

Lee Caddick

Well gosh darn it, the first real impact of the OGL for me - was really looking forward to the new campaign. Damn you corporate greedy mother-flippers!

Graham Kane

Is it possible that you will no longer be able to use the name Professor Dungeon Master? Isn’t the term Dungeon Master copyrighted by WOTC?

William Watkins

What? I didn’t even know I needed this on YouTube more than I do now!!!

Jay

Professor Game Master (PGM), I might as well address you as such now. I'm so terribly sorry for what they are doing to everyone. You can still count on 100% of my support and hope you continue to cover games that do not fall under this, what can only be perceived as a Closed Gaming License (CLG). This is so disappointing. Never trust a corporation to have the public interest in mind when it comes to making money.

Karl

They’re outlawing dancing. DANCING!

Randall Case

Just out of curiosity, wouldn't your videos follow under fan content?

Papa Zaph

*rage intensifies* This is insanely stupid!!! With that said, PDM you have my eternal support. Also I want to point out that WotC does have "Dungeon Master" trademarked I believe. So that might also screw things up.

BrianV

Can you continue the lost city and just use the theme of Atlantis and use inspiration from movies like Star Gate or Tomb Raider. The idea is originally yours based on the reskin of movies. If you can't use ideas derived from D&D use ideas and themes from movies; there is tons of content and ideas to choose from and they will all fit within the Deathbringer world!

Giulliano Salgarello

Just keep the project and change all references from the module

Mr.Suulix

The level of greed from WoTC is so uncool. It’s a shame we won’t get to see this content, I was really looking forward to it 😞 thanks for the update PDM!

Gregory Helding
>>99293766

Quick read of the policy says you can make money, just not with a paywall. So yeah, no Patreon but it seems like YouTube is OK. If not, I don't see how clamping down on people streaming their products (free advertising) does any good for WoTC. Not that it would stop them.

Ben McInnis

This is utter crap! I made sure to dress them down in the One D&D survey. I doubt it will have much of an effect, but I hope I'm not the only one. This is reprehensible

Scott Spears

I would rework this idea making it system agnostic. It's about design and tactics. Then no copyright issue.

Staffaramus

Sad to hear for I was hoping to watch more of your play and style. Learn so much from hearing your ideas, your plans, and how you leave the Players to solve issues. Again I want to support you and if it means we turn our backs on WoTC then fine by me. You show us option after option for how to be great Referees / Game Masters / Judges / Conflict Creators so keep the good work moving on to the future

William Watkins

Couldn’t you still film and show this PDM? Doesn’t the 1.1 only cover printed books and pdf’s? If your video is broadcast for free, would they still come after you?

Brent Norton

Well that is total dog crap.

James M Spahn
>>99364842

OGL 1.1 expressly calls out digital content of pretty much any nature other than a PDF. It's really, REALLY brutal.

Avishai Menashe

That's really sad, this situation is frustrating

Staffaramus

Good for you. Gotta protect yourself and your side-hussle

Alexandros Katanas

:( That sucks. I love the lost city. Would love to see your take. Can't you switch up the names and call it "The forgotten City" or something?

James C

It's a shame. I really enjoyed your reinterpretations of the Veiled Society and the Keep on the Borderlands.

Ben Chance

With the post today stating plainly that they will not pursue actions against videos, assuming that this isn't a lie, is it possible that Lost City will still happen?