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Patrons asked for it--so here it is: PDM analyzes the potential impact of a boycott on the D&D movie. 

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Bagel-Man

I’m just gonna wait a month or so to see it

DireSquirrel

I'll be honest, I wish I'd boycotted the original D&D movie too.

Gregory Helding

Your anecdotal evidence is a read on the gaming community, not the community at large. If it is not a hit, it won't be because of gamer boycotters. There aren't enough of them to turn a hit move into a flop.

Adrian Webster

To me the movie looks like a syfy channel film with a slightly bigger budget. It just has that low quality plot vibe to it. All of the actors have talent but many have also starred in some really crappy films too. It's just very meh looking. A movie that pushed some branded characters or worlds would work better, give old fans something to look forward to and new fans something to look up and get excited about. this just feels generic. I know TSR and WOTC dont have a great record paying writers but it still seems shortsighted not to just suck it up, pay some residuals and milk the IP better.

Chuck Thorin

Yeah. Where is the Deathbringer movie?

baldrage

Beep-Boop, the AI DM says: this movie will do bigger box office than Maverick, Avatar, and Titanic combined. Chris Cocks is a visionary, and Cynthia Williams is beautiful and benevolent. Upgrade your D&D Beyond subscription to the $39.99 tier to get exclusive access to behind-the-scenes interviews with the cast and crew. Beep-Boop.

Cee-Jay

No movie can top Mazes and Monsters anyhow, so why bother?

Chad Wilkerson

I'm taking a group of about 30 middle schoolers to see it. So pretty much the opposite of a boycott. 😂

James Mace

Both my D&D groups were eager to see this, if for no other reason than an excuse for all of us to go hang out at the cinema together. We honestly didn't even care that much if the film was going to be good. But then the OGL garbage happened and now we're going to give it a miss.

James M Spahn

Honor Among Thieves looks like someone tried to take the "charming misfits + good soundtrack" formula of Guardians of the Galaxy and applied it (poorly) to the fantasy genre. I was vaguely curious (as in I'll catch it on streaming) about it before the OGL kerfuffle. Now, I just can't stomach anything that puts money in Hasbro's pocket since they tried to take a dump in my cornflakes and tell me it's chocolate.

Andrew

I actually disagree. WotC is depending on us to generate excitement and hype about the movie before it hits theaters. That's the reason we get so many series that are adaptations of existing IPs, and not original stories. Hollywood and TV studios have discovered if they tap into something that has a big enough fan base, that generates ticket sales, not just in getting fans into theaters, but in a whole lot of free word of mouth advertising. Lately, we have seen what happens when writers and show runners treat the source materiel with contempt and the fans turn against the production. The show runners of Rings of Power are hanging onto their positions by their fingernails, and in all honesty should just be fired. The Witcher series--after Cavil leaving the show because of the total disregard for the lore and the Blood Origins fiasco---that show will never recover. So I think we can have a huge impact on the movie's success or failure.

Matthew Crismali

I wasn't excited about the movie, but I was planning on seeing it. Now, with all the OGL sh*t that Hasbro has pulled, it's easy for me to sit this one out. In other news, I disagree with you on No Time to Die; I thought it was one of the best of the Daniel Craig Bond films, second only to Casino Royal. He didn't make-out with Ana de Armas (a mind boggling feat, yes) because it was a love story between Bond and Léa Seydoux's Madeleine Swann.

James C

The movie looked bad so I didn't have any intention to watch it anyways.

James C

It's typical of Hollywood these days. It doesn't matter what genre, all the personalities are derivatives of Joss Whedon type characters. I liked Buffy the Vampire Slayer but now ALL characters seem to be archetypes of that show. It's tiresome. And it doesn't work in a fantasy genre.

Kyle (saint)

I agree. I don't like comedy D&D so no intention of seeing it either.

Ajax

The first D&D movie, was a total joke, however the second D&D movie "Wrath of the Dragon God", with no big stars, no super CGI, just a really good story with perfectly cast characters, is in my opinion what a D&D movie should be. Watch it, you'll really enjoy it, especially the female Barbarian!

Elated Muse

I would love to see a fleshed out death-bringer movie. Actually I want to see you do a story on him!

David Nelson

Hugh Grant as the bad guy. Yes, that’s scary. Maybe if it pops up on prime and my wife decides she’s not interested that night. Maybe.

MrGunn

Interesting view point, I tend to agree, I think the gaming community is in a bit of an echo chamber. Normies don’t care about the OGL or Hasbro’s business plans, they are just looking for their next entertainment fix.

Jay

PDM, I just thought of something off the wall while watching your previous video. The art you use for the reviled society thumbnail of the female rogue with the text "Steal this while you can". Is that covered under the Fair use doctrine or do you have to purchase clip art for these thumbnails? Can't seem to shake the whole legal mumbo jumbo of copywrite stuff with all this WoTC crap.

Jeff Jones

Maybe if they used Greyhawk instead of the Misbegotten Realms...

MrGunn

People need to step out of the echo chamber. It’s about the money 💵💶💷💴, not the art. Reprocessed corporate pablum is virtually guaranteed to make money, which is why there are ten Fast & the Furious, nine Star Wars and umpteen super hero movies, and why McDonalds and Pizza Hut are multi-billion dollar world wide corporations. People want cheap, consistent and familiar bread 🍞 and circuses 🎪, to take us away from the awfulness and inanity of the world for a short time. It is not a personal criticism its a truism.

Sara Face

I’m not interested n this movie. I agree I don’t prefer my D&D media riddled with jokes. I’m trying to immerse and forced humor breaks it for me. The Vox Machina series can get away with it since their material is genuine to their campaign.

samurguybri

Deathbringer is doing bachelorette parties and Hollywood films? King.

samurguybri

Great hawk is vanilla but with a ton more specificity. Forgotten reasons has some fun ideas but is so boring. Dark Sun! A Mad Max fantasy movie could have so much vision and focus.

Howard Kingston

I remember reading in White Dwarf 45(I think!)

Howard Kingston

Gary Gygax went off to Hollywood to try and get a D&D movie sorted and the headline was 'Gygax trying to get a D&D movie off the Ground Aerial Manoeuvrability class C'

Frederic Schmitt

I wouldn't have watched this movie anyway I guess. So nothing to boycott here I guess.

Daniel Defazio

Technically it's fair use because I altered the art. But I try to remember to credit the artist in the doobly-do.

Jay

Cool I make a lot of paper minis at my table using online art under fair use. Wyloch's videos helped with that.

Graham Kane

I had/have no interest in the movie. It looks terrible. Obviously made in the Marvel style to give it the broadest appeal possible. If you really must see it (and I think I may have to as my wife likes the look of the trailer!) wait until it hits a streaming service. On the subject of boycotts your examples of Batman and Bond are excellent, but look at what happened when Disney released Solo. There was a conscious boycott after the horrible reception to The Last Jedi and the movie tanked. But like you say these are hardcore fans of a film franchise and I think your right that the actual D&D playing community won't be enough to sway it either way.

Flowers

I thought the movie looked silly and a little campy from the trailer, a nice bit of fluff. I don't expect much from it. Looks very Disney in a foreign-market ready, design-by-committee sense.

Firstspear

The whole D&D fiasco is the result of tone deaf leadership at Hasbro/WotC

William Smith

I rarely go to the movies in the first place, but was going to give this one a go with very low expectations. I am probably one of the few people on Planet Earth that didn't hate the Willow tv show, so you can see how low I can lower my expectations. ;) However, since we the gamers have locked horns with Liars of the Coast, I am going to pass. I can't predict what will happen at the box office, so I won't even try.

Ben Chance

I was looking forward to seeing some of the D&D monsters on the big screen but from the beginning this looked like a soulless cash grab... and you know what? If skipping this makes WOTC look bad I may see it on the little screen, or any time after opening weekend.

Tuska

I am boycotting the film, and everything WotC , I am sticking to OSR games and content only. WotC and Hasbro are dead to me.

Jay

I thought the video linked below was both Hilarious and Informative. So, for anyone who wants to listen to some advice about DnD without all the legal OGL stuff you might like this video. This guy hasn’t been on YouTube very long but if you watch this with a relaxed attitude you can see the subtle humor he expresses. I found it a bit refreshing and even funny aside from all the OGL hubbub going on elsewhere. Also, he does give some good advice you might want to use at your table with regard to DnD type games. Kristian’s Brain – How to Unlearn DnD (YouTube) Link - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foA1OoJlFu4

Steven

Dragon Slayer, best DnD movie in my opinion. Funny thing is , it was a Disney / Paramount movie.

Brent Norton

I might watch it after it goes to Netflix. So I watched A Knight’s Tale and wondered to myself will this be better than the D&D movie?

William Clark Stewart

I just can't believe people have forgotten the first big budget DnD movie!! Come on!

Jose Perez (Bromos Sunstar)

Professor DM I thought you said you were going to stick with creative OSR content. Instead of non-creative click baiting OGL content (this is getting as bad as WOTC money grabbing policy). I'm really disappointed in the videos lately and Death Bringer should be ashamed he's lost his grip on the OSR for me I'm unsubscribing.

MrGunn

Whether you agree or not, Jose has a point. PDM has been doing a lot of news videos lately and he did promise to do more game oriented content. Some folks are getting war weary b/c of all the OGL controversy, I get that, it does seem relentless of late and a lot of folks game as a form of escapism. We should not be closed to listening to feedback we don’t like, it may be what we need to hear. I am sorry he chose to leave. Perhaps a respectful word on this forum or a private message to PDM expressing your desires would be effective in eliciting the change you want, although patience is key, this too shall pass.

MrGunn

Maybe you should change your handle to: First Responder or The Postman! 🤣🤣🤣

jnlsn family

Does it count if I was already not going to see it?