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Breaking News: Wizards Surrenders! (Patreon)

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2023-01-27 22:11:17
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No Extended cut here. This was taped without a script and I have no additional information. I had just taped the unboxing of my Silver Play Award when I got word Wizards had abandoned its effort to seek a new OGL. this will go up on YouTube in 15 minutes. 

Silver play unboxing will air tomorrow.

All my best.

--PDM

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WoTC Surrenders!.mp4

Comments

Bagel-Man

Excited to watch PDM, keep up the great work!

Kevin

TTRPG fans did what Gamers could never hope to

Graham Kane

Yes this was definitely a moment to look back on and say “I was there”. I actually think the survey was something of a smokescreen and was only done so that Wizards could say “it’s not about the money, it’s for the fans”. The negative press and stock price drop really as well as worry over a movie boycott really tipped this thing over the edge. The community really were incredible but Ryan Dancey really deserves special credit imho.

Jeff Krus

Freedom!!!! Now PDM on to videos that are not OGL...THANK YOU!!!!!

James Archer

Great news Professor! I looked into it and it really does look like a total capitulation to the demands of the community.

Andrew

This is fantastic!!!! Now I can get to work on my very first 5e character concept--my half-tiefling half-aardvark from the fey wild named, Jebediah the Doomed. Paladin, warlock, assassin who moonlights as the world's most exotic exotic dancer and tulip farmer. His life quest is to find the world biggest termite mound. To do so he must find his trusted companion and sidekick, Zippy the Wonder Slug. Seriously though---this is spectacular news. This has been truly amazing to see what our community has done here.

Jim Havoc

Congrats and 100k subscribers and the Silver Play Button! Well deserved!

Firstspear

Congrats on the 100K button!! Well deserved! Seeing tone deaf business leaders get their due. People align to their reward system. Stock took a hit and will impact their compensation. This is a lesson that should be taught in business school.

Travis Sperry

I wouldn't celebrate just yet. They need to do something to get their subscribers back to Beyond. Will it last? I wouldn't trust them

MrGunn

In the immortal last words of Admiral Ackbar; It’s a trap! Sure they are publishing 5e under the CCL, but what about 6e? I am with Ash; It’s a trick, get an axe! Klaatu, Barada, Nectarine 🥝

Tyler N

Genuine question. Why do some of the most prolific commentators on this channel not bother to be patreons? Those who yell the loudest about greedy companies can’t bother to chip in $2 a month?

Robert Adams

Sorry, I am not ready to go running back. I know their heart and they will find a way to get what they want. Not really interested. Already exploring alternatives and working on my own stuff. This just helped push me over. I personally hope the company pays dearly for this obvious lack of care for the community that made it what it is.

Robert Adams

Oh and PDM, CONGRATULATIONS ON THE 100K!!!! Awesome Achievement!

Robert Adams

DO NOT TRUST WOTC or HASBRO. This is the true smokescreen.

Bingo Mastermind

Congratulations on 100K! Does WOTC’s surrender mean anything for your Lost City campaign?

Frank Matthews

I’m not trusting WOTC because they’ll try and sneak it in when we’re not paying attention. If the FTC keeps trying to strike down net neutrality, WOTC will keep trying to revoke the OGL. We may have won the battle, but the war still wages on.

Bryan Stephens

Never played 5th Ed anyway. This is a win. But no reason ever to trust them again

Darrin

This channel is the dogs bollocks

Jay

BAZINGA! 100K subscribers! Congrats Professor DUNGEON MASTER! No need for a title change there. However, I will still never trust Hasbro, WoTC, or any big corporation such as Coke, and more recently (today) Pfizer for the corrupt business practices they exploit. They only apologize when they are caught and there are consequences. Even then they aren't held to the same standard as the individual or small business under the law. These and so many more corporations have been exposed in recent months for scandalous behavior and many more will continue be exposed. So, WoTC will still never get another dime of my money but independent creators will still rule the game board as far as I'm concerned.

Jay
>>100561798

It's always a trap. BTW, that's a kiwi isn't it? Anyway, I agree they should never be trusted. Not sure if you are referencing "The Day The Earth Stood Still" or one of the Evil Dead Movies or perhaps both. Either way, good movies when they actually knew how to write and direct them.

MrGunn
>>100562847

I beg your pardon, I am a top tier patron, thank you very much.

Andrew

Hey, on a serious note, if you got one of those letters like Bob worldbuilder did, and WotC wants to talk with you, reinforce to them putting older editions into creative commons as well, for all us OSR folks. We got 5, now lets get BX, Advanced, 2nd and 3rd, too into the public sphere. Bring up how critical having simple, easy to run modules is as a means of alleviating the DM shortage. I'm not sure we would have been able to teach ourselves the game as quickly as we did without having those modules. They showed us in very concrete examples how to lay out your adventures and by extension how to build out a world, one adventure at a time. That builds groups where people take turns DMing instead of it being just all on one person. That prevents DM burnout, too. They want to be able to monetize players? Make the game easy to run.

Brian Leet
>>100561798

But now we don’t need to care about 6E. It’s up to them to convince us. They’ve removed the sword of Damacles hanging over every 5E creator’s efforts.

Michael Penkas

Victory reveals character as much as defeat. Over the next couple days, there is going to be a lot of fist pumping and cheers of how WOTC got their asses kicked. But if this really is sincere (and it seems to be), then there is no reason to humiliate them further. I'm an OSR guy and even if WOTC never produces another first edition compatible module, 3rd party creators can now safely do so (again, unless there's something sinister buried in this statement that we're all missing). If it allows WOTC and 3rd parties alike to get back to their respective businesses and provide great gaming experiences of all types, then maybe we should be willing to accept their statement that they truly did want to make the best possible game for fans and just went about it in the wrong way.

Lee Caddick
>>100579384

Of course people will want to celebrate, let them enjoy it, rain-free ideally. When the beers are all gone and we're over the hangover, we can decide what to do.

Mortan L-J

I must admit that I would really like for Wizard’s to put out a legally binding statement that OGL 1.0a always was and always will be irrevocable.

Mortan L-J
>>100561798

6e doesn’t matter. If they don’t release 6e SRD under the OGL 1.0a, then it’s their loss :) The only way I will ever consider buying 6e core books is if my 5e group switches to 6e, and we’ll only switch if there is content for it, and without 3rd party support there won’t be at launch.

Andrew
>>100585829

With it being in creative commons, for me that's not necessary. 1.0a isn't necessary. My understanding is that the creative commons license that it's under is even more permissive than 1.0a was, to the point where it is almost public domain. Not quite and that's cool. You still have to give attribution, which isn't a problem. This is such amazing news and it's so final there really is nothing to fight over. I'd still love to see anyone involved in pushing 1.1 and 1.2 get canned--because they truly deserve it. I would love to see it become company policy that anyone at wizards take part in team building workshops once a month where they actually play the games they are selling, so they can understand what they are selling and why they are so special to whole community.

Mortan L-J
>>100585829

The problem with OGL 1.0a is the huge amount of non-WotC owned content that is released through it, and non-Wizards owned content that makes use of other such content. A lot of material that was released through OGL 1.0a is old and is unliked to be republished, but if your published supplement or adventure uses assets from old OGL 1.0a material, and the OGL 1.0a is revoked later, then you will not be able to republish (for whatever reason, errata or such) your supplement of adventure. Ugh this came out more confusing than I intended.

Paul Popernack

PDM, will you interview Ryan Dancey?

Richard Maddalon

Now you can do the Lost City campaign right? Please do the Lost City.

Andrew
>>100572808

Fair enough. You caught me planning out today's game---harpies and fox women and bandits---oh my!

Graham Kane
>>100567153

Yep. Bollocks is a very verstile Anglo-Irish slang word. Bollocks=bad, Dog's Bollocks=Extremely good!

baldrage

I will be watching with interest to see if there is any accountability for the executives that set this ill-conceived scheme into motion. The drama over OGL has significantly damaged the D&D brand and has demonstrably cost the company millions of dollars. Unless there are personal consequences (e.g. fired for cause) for the decision-makers involved in this, the "war" is not over.

Michael Penkas
>>100579384

Hopefully this decision doesn't lead to third parties scrapping their plans for creating alternate rule systems. I still think that's a good idea.

Richard Maddalon
>>100589544

Joking aside. Wouldn't you be using a product from a creator that Wizards and Hasbro just tried to get rid of?

MrGunn
>>100579384

Well said sir, magnanimity costs nothing and often pays dividends.

MrGunn
>>100568074

More of a Dr. Pepper guy, but the rapacious nature of unfettered capitalism continues to be a worldwide problem. When less than one percent of humans control greater than 50% of the world’s wealth and poverty, famine, and want abound, war and environmental decline threaten us all, one has to question the system and institutions that keep us here.

MrGunn
>>100558620

Did you mean she/he/they/them/not certain Zippy the Furry Wonder Slug 🐌 or his cousin Mort?🤪🤣🤣🤣🥸

Jay
>>100568074

Yes Dr. Pepper is also nice. However, my spouse and I have recently given up soda not for the corporate reason more like healthy diet and exercise reason. I also see what you see in your statement. The Matrix wasn't just an entertaining movie but seems to be an allegory for the systems that keep us under control. The elitists are no longer trying to hide what they are doing and anyone who pays attention can see the law works like a spiders web. The flies get caught and the wasps go free. Yet I best digress, I wish to get off the subject of corporate corruption as this channel is here for gaming and enjoyment. So I think it best to try to focus more on that. Can't wait to see what PDM has in store for us next.

ViggenCA

Such amazing news, I've watched it twice - here and youtube.

Storagezilla

This puts pressure on Paizo. A Creative Commons licensed 5e is better than whatever ORC was going to be. The Creative Commons licence is so open that it may force Paizo and the others to drop ORC. WOTC can then wrap One D&D in OGL 2.0, knowing that their flank is protected by 5e compatible products. Did WOTC just pull out a new TTRPG renaissance before it took root?

Andrew
>>100558620

As far as I know, Zippy hasn't come out as a furry, they them. I'll let the DM decide on that one. I've only know that in a dream, Jebediah the Doomed was instructed that with Zippy's help, he would be able to find the world's biggest termite mount. He currently has a map that show the location to the world's biggest ball of yarn, protected by a secret order of Tebaxi monks. That's his only clue so far.