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Pathfinder Purges All References to D&D! (Extended) (Patreon)

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2023-11-23 18:04:46
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PDM analyzes the new changes. 

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Bagel-Man

Happy thanksgiving PDM, excited to watch!

MrGunn
>>122880586

Ahhh the Bagely goodness of a warm freshly posted comment. Read but not watched. ;)

Bryan Stephens

I have put mindflyers in my Pathfinder game.

Firstspear

Thanks for another crackin', thoughtful opinion. Happy Turkeyday - May the amino acids bring you peaceful rest!

Mark Hanson

I wanna play a Perturbed Warrior. Tremble as I enter my Annoyed State!

GegaHub

The Soothing Sword of Conan. I wanna put that on a shirt, now. Swords are made for only one purpose and have one function. But words!?! We better change those to not offend anyone. Yikes, just yikes.

MrGunn

PDM, first off, Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours, and thank you for taking time away from your loved ones to post this for our entertainment. It seems several companies are making nomenclature updates. WotC has put their Committee for Correct Nomenclature to work re-wording their rule books to remove any possibility for thought crimes, now Pahtfinder is changing their nomenclature, differently of course, but similar. As to Pathfinder's rule books, they would be a lot smaller if they did not have a rule for everything. Which brings me to your point about optional and advanced rules. There are two schools of thought, one is: all rules in a single book, no 'advanced' or other rules, the rules are the rules and only the rules, so help us. The second school is; there should be a basic core rules and with optional and advanced rules sets that people can add what they want when they want. If the rules are simple then a one rule book to rule them all makes sense. However, the more complex a rules set, the more I agree with learning rules as you go or rules layering. Take for example, Squad Leader, an old a very complex Avalon Hill WW2 board game. Squad Leader had a fantastic system for learning the rules, there would be 3 - 9 pages of dense rules to learn, then you would play a scenario using the new rules, in this way a very complex game was accessible. At some point Avalon Hill or MMG came out with Advanced Squad Leader (ASL), and it has a 700 page rule book and you have to read about 200 pages just to play your first game. Did I mention, in addition to the rules, you have to buy a second module with the counters and maps to actually play ASL. I own a copy of of ASL, but I have never played it once, I don't have the time, patience or attention span to read 200 pages of rules to play it I totally agree with you that WotC has screwed the pooch in every way possible when it comes to marketing D&D 5e, NeXt, 6e, 5.5e, who knows. I like that Paizo is distancing themselves from WotC, it makes good business sense, so does selling 3 books for 1.5 times the price as one. I liked the bonus content where you talk about the changing of nomenclature, where you call out the hypocrisy of politically correct speech about barbarians, Visigoths, and Vandals. Personally what really irks is the lack of historical context or understanding, the uneven and injudicious application of the arbitrary and ever changing rules created by the wokeness mob. In conclusion, no thank you Pathfinder, I don't need a rule for everything. As to WotC's D&D, screw you, after the OGL betrayal I will not be purchasing anything from Wizbruhs. Finally, thank you again, and again I wish you, your family, and friends have a great holiday.

MrGunn
>>122888656

@GegaHub Yes, the entire campaign consists of ordering a StarNyucks and talking about your feelings, while engaging in subtle judgey gossip.

David Ford

Happy Thanksgiving PDM. Great episode. It ran the gamut of emotions: I laughed, I cried, I ate a Pumpkin Cheesecake muffin. I’m glad Paizo is shedding the cloak(er) of WOTC, but I agree with MrGunn (except the part about Advanced Squad Leader-awesome game!), there’s too much crunch there for me. I’ll probably pick up the books just to support their game, but like many others it’ll sit on my bookshelf.

NØKKEN_WAITS

Happy Thanksgiving PDM! I love paizo's products; the dry erase battle matts, the little cutout cardboard "minis", and the way they navigate the waters of ttrpgs. I wish I loved the game more, but alas, I'm very happy with my rules lite systems. This does make me want to give either path or star finder another crack though...

Frank Mitchell

You'll pry Alignment from my *cold* *dead* ... nope, can't even. I can find a place for Law/Neutral/Chaos if they're *cosmic* allegiances, but otherwise I've no use for it.

Frank Mitchell
>>122890328

In terms of learning rules, I look at Tunnels & Trolls (yes, really), both the 5.5 and 8th editions. First, introduce basic rules that form a complete game; then add the elaborations and extensions on those rules for those who want something more detailed. If Paizo's really taking that tack, more power to them. (Although I still probably won't buy their game, no matter how many books they put it in. They lost me when they started creating more than a dozen classes.)

samurguybri

I don’t want to get to into it either, but no modern goths are not affecting the Visigoths, Ostrogoths or Invisigoths as they are long extinct as a cultural group. But even less than 50 years ago Native Americans were called savages and the classical term “barbarian” was applied to them, by “superior” white folks. It’s still happening. I mean Goldmoon’s people from Dragonlance are depicted white Plains Indians, in text and art. I know cultural appropriation is a too a broadly applied brush, but the concept is legit and we need to keep refining it so its a useful term. If calling people in game “savages” or “barbarians” keeps Native folks from wanting to play, change it! People are more important than my nostalgia or old labels in pretend elf games.

Jay
>>122890328

Nicely stated MrGunn. I am in complete agreement and share the same thoughts regarding rule books and the bonus content.

Jay

PDM, really enjoyed this video any comments I would make would likely only echo those MrGunn stated above. Thanks for your insight on this one.

Richard White

I thought you were trying something different with the catchphrase!! it was like you were a news presenter or something! haha.

Mike Butts

I am a barber and have a little one chair barbershop. People ask me all the time what do I miss. I tell everyone I miss what I call "Adult Time". I miss the days where you could talk about adult subjects.