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I Hate That I Have To Ask This

  • I'll try to sign up and support you on any platform 183
  • I'd follow you on Subscribestar / already follow artists on SubStar 68
  • I'd follow you on Just For Fans / already follow others on JFF 8
  • I've got another platform I prefer (mention it in the comments?) 2
  • I'm not in a position to follow you somewhere else right now 41
  • 2024-03-16
  • 302 votes
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Content

But here we are. Once again major platforms are deciding after building their success on the back of adult content that it's now time to ban it.

Patreon still allows adult furry art specifically, so for the moment I'm not planning to leave; I'll continue posting here regularly as I have for the past eight years as long as they'll allow it. But I think it's a good idea to at least start diversifying. 

I also strongly suggest that if there's any art you see on here that you like, download it right away. I can't promise that anything I post here will continue to be available.

If you can take a sec to answer this poll, that would help me a lot in trying to figure out where to go next if anything happens.

Where are you currently following other artists, or where would be willing to go to follow me? 

Comments

Jaggerfrost

Imo subscribestar would be the better alternative

Pulsar

I think Subscribestar has more brand recognition, but I'm not convinced it's the better site.

Pulsar

Sorry, 'enter' submits a comment instead of inserting a line break. :P Anyway, my main concern with them is that while they support adult art now, there's really no guarantee they will continue to in the future, same as Patreon. Also from what I've seen of it, it's just not a very well designed site. Patreon has issues, but SubStar is something of a mess. Just For Fans is owned and operated by other professional sex workers, so they have a vested interest in maintaining it for that purpose. They aren't known for supporting artists (yet) but they recently pivoted to advertising to artists in the wake of everything else that's going on. I think it's a harder sell in terms of branding, but I can't help but wonder if it won't be the more stable site in the long term.

HrothCharr

Hopefully, this will blow back in their face like when only fans tried to ban adult content, but we'll just have to wait and see. But, I would absolutely find some way to support you should things get dicey.

ebu

sucks that we / y'all are getting put through the puritan payment-processer wringer once more. i'm personally not allegiant to any one platform so i have no qualms about following people wherever they wind up

Pulsar

Yeah, I'm not holding my breath, but I guess we'll see. Thanks though, I really appreciate it!

Aquatj

When Lysergide’s Patreon got nuked, they moved to Subscribestar and all their Patrons, myself included, moved over immediately. Just publicize the switchover on sites like Furaffinity and peeps will follow :3

Pulsar

That's really encouraging to hear, thanks :>

Tech Otter

I'm not held down by this platform so I'd be happy to support you wherever you go. I've seen some artists do preview images and then they post the images to a dropbox/Google drive/Mega folder their subscribers get access to each month. You could probably do the same and upload to the folder and Patron at the same time but it does add a bit of work in terms of keeping up with links and stuff so switching might be more worth it if it comes to it.

Pulsar

I've thought about doing something like this, but there are a few problems with it. For one, Dropbox will charge you if you have too much traffic for a file. Not necessarily a problem for images, but starts to become an issue with longer videos (and more subscribers).

Tech Otter

Really? I had no idea. I guess that's why I've seen people use Google Drive and Mega but not Dropbox.

Amethystine

I know some people who swear by Substar. I'm on there, for them - and I was thinking about making a creator account of my own on there at some point. I recall there being some scare here on Patreon about TF works being classified as non-con, because TF is often depicted as a surprise happenstance. Anyway, I'm answering the poll as 'I'll follow you anywhere', but I was also going to say the substar one, given all that. I had not heard of 'Just for Fans', but I assume it's like that thing called OnlyFans? Which I've only heard people make humourous reference to, and have never actually seen. I imagine this post is in reaction to the Gumroad thing [which is a bummer], but has there been any actual news about Patreon doing the same?

Tazrael

I'm not fully sure where things are headed but I got your back one way or another.

Pulsar

Thanks so much, I know I can count on you :> I probably should've explained more what Just For Fans is. It's basically like Only Fans, but it's owned and operated by professional sex workers, so they have a vested interest in making sure the platform continues to be adult oriented. (Something which Subscribestar doesn't have.) It was started for videos and photos, but they've recently been trying to pivot to accommodating artists as well, which is a smart move I think. Personally I like it better than SubStar, but I know it doesn't have the same brand recognition, especially among furries. So it could be a harder sell to get furries to migrate there. Patreon has been tightening the screws on adult art for some time. (And they banned RL porn outright a few years ago after having allowed it for a number of years before that.) Every few months they update their TOS with some new adult thing or kink that is now restricted or disallowed. A lot of artists, myself included, believe it's only a matter of time before they ban adult art entirely.

Pulsar

I really appreciate it, thanks! :>

Jeska Shepard

Sadly something like Subscribestar only accepts credit/debit card. Something very uncommon where i come from. :(

Pulsar

I think that's going to be the case a lot more in the future too, unfortunately. Paypal is one of those companies that officially doesn't support porn, and they're often the ones that are pressuring other smaller sites to take it down. So it's likely that as more stable porn sites pop up, they won't accept Paypal

Blockhead

there is no perfect solution when it comes to these kinds of platforms, tehcnically if you wanted THE best site for your stuff to be puslished in a controlled way and with support and everyhting it would be squarespece or your own developed site, but if you want to use a arealy established site then unfortunately nothign is MUCH better than patreon, I see people have just facebook and then post on itaku and nowhere else, but I dunno if any "perfect" solution exists. but heysupporters are supportes no matter where you are right? it is your choice at the end of the day.

Jeska Shepard

guess ill just have to hope that your patreon doesnt get nuked then

Kabbalist

Thank you for the update. Issues like this are precisely why I like to bookmark artists in more than one place. I voted for JFF, but I also have a subscribestar account. If you do have to get the flock out of here, please keep us up to date about your migratory patterns.

Kujiiro

Honestly at this point I don't know. Subscribestar seems like the alternative I'm seeing the most, but who knows how long before they might get this same treatment.

Pulsar

That's pretty much exactly my thinking as well. It seems like the best option, but who knows for how long

Kabbalist

The thing about the OnlyFans uproar is that by even considering a ban on adult content, they lost a LOT of trust from the providers. Many have begun looking at other platforms, as they expect the issue to come up again sooner or later.