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PODCAST: SHOT SHOW 2018: Franklin Armory REFORMATION (Patreon)

Published:
2018-02-27 12:00:00
Imported:
2026-06

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This is an audio only version of a recently released video for the convenience of those who wish to listen when unable to watch. 

This is Patreon perk for all supporters. You can listen to it via the browser, here, or you can subscribe to all future InRange podcasts via an RSS feed:

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Franklin Armory has skirted NFA SBR regulations by producing a gun so uniquely odd that it really can't be defined by law or practical definition.

The "Reformation" has rifling, but it's straight rifling.   As a result, it's not a shotgun because it has rifling, but it's not imparting spin to the projectile so it, theoretically, it's not a SBR (short barreled rifle) either.

Franklin Armory has developed a weird football shaped proprietary projectile that they claim can perform at 1 MOA at 100 yards (in this video).   The rifle can also use standard ammunition but with "sporadic" results.

Hmmm.

We discuss this rifle and the ammunition, along with trying to understand the rationale and claims being made about the REFORMATION.

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Alaskan Exile

So basically what you're getting here is an expensive pistol with more aftermarket stock options at the same price as an SBR. Brilliant.

Danny Hanny

Good to know that you visited them, and that you had this conversation. I'm not quite sure the spokesman they had is the spokesman they needed, nor that I envisioned. I would have focused more on 4 MOA with standard rounds being relatively OK within 50 yards - typical defensive use - and would have marketed scare tactics of both the bad sides of SBR ownership/transport, as well as scare tactics about 'what if' the ATF clamped down on pistol builds. Scare tactics just about always work in the industry, and sound far more correct than going on and on about tank rounds or silly projectiles. But, hey, that's the way I would have described the item were I tasked with selling the idea and product.

H

So painful. I had to stop watching four or five times because I was cringing so hard. Kudos to Ian for not pulling any punches.

Kenny VanCleave

The question you presented about the stock versus an arm brace applies to all SBR's. Why would I go through the hassle of filing the paperwork, paying the $200 tax and be restricted to where I could travel with it? When I could just make it a pistol and have a non-adjustable arm brace. I just finished the WWSD rifle with the GWAC polymer stock. It's non-adjustable.

Firearms Fuel&Fabrication

I see this thing as a big flop. And I love how Ians pretty basic questions make that guy stutter. Same questions I would have asked. Ill stick with my SBR and my braces especially now there are pdw and adjustable braces.

Gas Air Spark

I think this concept would work better in a pistol caliber. Intended range on a 9mm sub gun with a 4"-6" barrel is much more in line with the kind of accuracy this thing is doing. I would have also asked if the straight groves were actually needed. The atf definition of a shotgun is stock, smooth bore AND shotgun chambering specifically. Would it being chambered in a rifle cartridge matter? I genuinely don't know.

Thomas Stancomb

I would like to point out that in a few states you cannot own any NFA items. That being said, I think I'll stick to a brace.

Jon Rezula

For what it's worth Ian, all NFA weapons/accessories are illegal in my state. And I'm pretty sure it's not the only state with that particular law. And if they ever make arm braces/stabilizers illegal, that will get rid of the "loophole" for those of us who want an SBR-length gun, without it being an NFA item.

Michael Stueber

I really appreciate NFA hacks for their own sake, and I think the overwhelming majority of AR owners will never even notice if a rifle had a 4 MOA accuracy. And even *I* found that interview almost physically painful. I really appreciate your whole thing, Franklin, but you need a new spokesdude.

Norman A. Letterman

I'm not even that huge a gun nerd but I cringed at a lot of the talking points. This is bad.

David Gummo

*Next year* "Hi guys thanks for tuning into another video on Forgotten Weapons dot com"

AZ

I really appreciate you guys asking legitimate questions at shot show. Most of the stuff you see from other channels is just filming the rep giving their sales pitch.

Andrew Yates

Wow that was painful. FA was not doing their booth people any favors with that firearm. Everyone knows what this is, except they seem to be selling it as the new sliced bread. Is this the trigger-activated weapon light of 2018 Shot, or are there more gems to look forward to?

Jon Davis

I couldn't help but cringe watching the video with FA at SHOT Show. That is a LOT of money for something that isn't innovative in a way that objectively improves on anything. It certainly is a legal innovation and I suspect that whoever (Faxon?) makes those barrels for FA is getting a chuckle. I hope they sell enough to make it worth it but I can think of dozens of other choices I'd rather spend that kind of money on.

Steve Zeatlow

If I could get a 16 inch barrel for the price of a nor