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Here is your official solicitation for March 2018's Q&A questions.

This one should be with both Ian and myself.

Please keep it one question per person, and if at all possible, make the question a single sentence.

I always feel bad leaving questions unanswered so that's the best strategy to get as many of them covered as is possible.

Thank you!

Karl

Comments

Michael Wilkinson

Will the rollers on an HK delayed blowback system wear the inside of the receiver over time?

Aaron McKay

Will Ian be taking a hiatus in 2018 to focus on FW content? If so where does that leave the Lever Action Project?

TK

If you had a $2000 budget for a rifle to use as both a hunting rifle and a precision rifle for competition, what rifle and optic would you choose?

John Ohme

For Ian, what makes your gun room secure?

Drew Hull

How’s Dugan Ashley doing? I’m glad to see him making appearances on your channel. I miss that glorious bastard.

Dale Schmidt

Maybe more of an Ian question but I remember reading the colt couldn’t figure out 30 round magazines for M16s in Vietnam and special forces guys bought 30 rounders off the civilian market. Is there any truth to this? If so I’m curious how that came to be. Alternatively when can we expect your optimising the sks and m1 garand series?

Bucky

Do you think shotguns can be reintroduced to 2G ACM type matches if they are limited to be less gamey? Such as a manual action tube-fed shotgun holding 9 rounds or less total?

Monke

What are the best Ban Proof firearms in your opinions? When I say ban proof I mean firearms that would either be unaffected or only mildly affected by an AWB.

Gas Air Spark

Do you reload and if so what kind of equipment do you prefer?

Kyle Clark

In your opinion, can submachine guns become relevant again if they are rechambered in PDW cartridges? Some of the new flavors, such as the 6.5 CBJ, can be chambered in 9-millimeter SMGs, so maybe these new rounds can give weapons like the MP5 and the Uzi a new lease on life. Thoughts?

Patrick Wipf

For both of you. What in your opinion is the most mechanically interesting (how it functions) firearm you have ever seen or heard about. Sorry if this has been answered.

Lurker45

Since the typical 19th/20th century bolt-action infantry rifle had a much longer range than actual combat showed to be useful, does that mean this entire genre of long-used rifles were a mistake?

Kenny VanCleave

When will you include the BCG in the WWSD rifle build?

Andy

What's the best way to prepare for one of those gun competitions? Minimum gear, budget, best first weapon (not a Carcano or an Enfield I guess) what basic shooting ability do you need to be middle of the pack. I would like to get started in one of those competitive events and avoid coming in dead last

TK

What would you recommend as a good first pistol that will be a range toy only? I've been eyeing up Browning Buckmarks and GSG 1911s in 22lr

London Jolly

What would a gun need to have to actually beat the AR as a platform? I know you guys (and you've made a very compelling argument) view it as the current best, but what would it take for a new rifle/carbine to beat it?

Ian

If you had to pick a second caliber for the WWSD rifle what would it be? (If all the 5.56/.223 disappeared and couldn't be made again. )

Kyle

What is your least favorite modern day firearm and why?

Sean Smith

Now that Desert Brutality is over and done, what is the one thing that you are most happy about, and the one thing that just just didn't work out at all?

Brandon

Ian, it's totally not fair to try and get Karl to answer a question that he refuses to tell you in person by asking him as a patron. Shame on you! ;P

Jack Coney

To what extent was the development of the AK based on that of the STG 44? Everything I have read on the internet has either said that the AK is a direct copy of the STG 44 (which is obviously not true), or that the AK seemed to be developed entirely in a vacuum, which I am again suspect of. I am curious to know what both of your opinions on this are.

Jonathan Jones

Quick and Easy: What was your most recent firearm purchase?

Garrett Schneider

Do you think a different caliber would fair better than the 5.56 at handling the steel ringers at 2GACM? For example, 6.8 SPC has more muzzle energy but only a margin increase in felt recoil might be better for a spinner, or the flatter shooting 6.5 calibers for less/faster distance shooting since it doesn't drop as quickly.

Ryan Zins

Love the content. Do you think that the modern bolt action rifle (rugged, reliable, accurate) still brings something to the table, or do you think that modern semi automatic weapons are advanced enough that the bolt action rifles benefits are minimal compared to its disadvantages?

Greg Beu

Hey guys /have you every thought about doing a segment on the unertl scopes used by the us forces in ww2 etc /i have a 10x and 18x and they are beautiful optics /keep up the good work .

Brandon

I am disabled with a weird disease that effectively limits my ability to perform physical activities to 2 to 4 hours (tops), longer if it is cold enough that I don't work up a sweat and as low as 30 minutes if it is too warm out and/or I simply can't keep my body temperature down. I would really like to get more involved in shooting sports, so can you think of any alternatives to my increasingly-boring "go to a cold indoor range while wearing a t-shirt and shorts" solution?

Ian

Sorry, I'm a different left handed Ian.

commander31

I'd like to know how night fighting was done before the advent of night sights, night vision, or even illumination flares.

Tyler Reardon

Need help with a new handgun purchase 1911 or revolver. Specifically kimber tle or smith and wesson 686

Michael James Blum

Do you see any utility in combat arms using a "balanced recoil system" or mechanical equivalent? The AO-38, AEK-971, and the KRISS Vector would be examples.

Matthew Jackson

Are there any compelling reasons for having primary rifle (e.g. competition/hunting/defense) that isn't an AR other than politics?

Les Winner

Will there be a Desert Brutality 2019?

Stephen Hall

Where do you see InRangeTV 2 years down the road?

Zac Donovan

Are there any historical innovations that were "missed" until far later simply because they were ahead of their time?

Christopher I. Blake

Which currently produced 1911 under a $1,000 do you think is the best value in regards to quality, reliability, accuracy?

michael glover

I’d like both your opinions on the M27 IAR, just a BAR reimagined or something else?

Benjamin Ross

With the 7.62x25 tokarev's flat trajectory and decent penetration why is it essentially relegated to feeding surplus or reproduction firearms with almost 0 modern firearms produced in that caliber? Is there a major downfall of that caliber that I am missing?

Pascal Planchenault

In your Desert Tech MDR, you mention a lot of other bullpups, but not the Kel Tec RDB. How does it compare to the 5.56 MDR, especially considering that it is also truly ambidextrous and much less expensive?

Thomas Bobay

We have seen some of Karl's workout regimen. With Ian often noted as the quicker/ more agile of the two, what does his workout regimen look like?

Mauserdude

ANy thoughts/opinions on ALICE gear as a low rent 2 or 3 gun rig?

Chris

Why aren't more pistols made with an open slide to eliminate stovepiping like the Beretta 92? I haven't heard of any inherent disadvantage to this design.

Raine Turner

hey Ian and Karl, love your guys videos! I'm a new Patreon supporter to both InRange and Forgotten weapons. I've been watching your Red October match videos, and was wondering if that is a good match for beginners? What would you recommend gear wise, (ie amount of mags, food, water, attire, ect.) And for fun-z's, what are some good "costume" ideas you would like to see at matches?

Andrew Duke

Do y’all have any shotgun content planned for the future?

Joe_K

If the NFA laws were different and you could use any one of the following which would you opt for in an EOTWAWKI scenario? on 1. weapon mounted grenade launchers (M203 etc) 2. Stand alone GL (M79, M320 etc) or, 3. Rifle fired grenades (APAV40 etc)

E Germi

From a mechanical standpoint, what was the simplest sub machine gun of WWII, and what made it simpler than whatever the runner-up is?

Timeshares

Striker, DA/SA, HK LEM, or De-cock only for the ideal handgun?

Nick Champlin

Karl, you hunt. What rifles do you hunt with? Ian, what rifle will you take on your first deer hunt?

Sean William OMalley

If you were designing the WWSD rifle for serious long term military use would you make it heavier and if so where would the extra weight go.

Patrick Wipf

For both of you. Inyour opinion what is the most interesting firearm mechanically (how it operates) you have ever seen or heard about?

Brian I

What do you think about the HABU charging handle for the AR 15?

Andrew Drust

Why have flash-hiders never caught on with AK-pattern rifles in military settings?

Rimfire Viking

Hey guys. I live in canada and am currently building a Maccabee slr. For legal reasons, I need a barrel longer than 18.5 inches but all I can find thus far are stainless HBAR barrels with mid length or carbine gas systems. I want something similar to your wwsd rifles but am striking out on finding a barrel. Are my options decent or should I look into getting a barrel over the border?

Fenix A

Coffee or tea, and what kind is your favorite? I can see Ian being a tea guy.

Bjorn Townsend

Projecting things like Ghost Gunner forward 10 years in terms of improvements to price/performance and ease of use, and considering that additive manufacturing is rapidly reaching the consumer level, do you see gun regulation turning into a push for broad regulation of additive manufacturing in order to control the ability to make and own a firearm - and potentially "dangerous" things of any kind?

MNETHTBRD

Any new information on the HMG Sturmgewehr? And if so can we expect any videos in the near future?

-Kris-

Do you see any potential for Metal Storm's electronically-fired stacked munitions, or is that a technological dead end?

Jamin Roy

Do y’all see a WWSD type concept with a bolt gun in the future (7.62x51 or 6.5 creed or some wonder round). One that could fulfill a “minute man” type role

Jonathan Mikesell

Assuming body armor with ballistic plates, helmets, and face shields reaches a point where most combatants have 7.62 ap protection on either side of a conflict at some point in the future, what type of weapon or round would you think is best to replace existing intermediate round-based rifles?

Fox

What do you think about rimless versions of rimmed revolver cartridges for better use in semi auto platforms? 44 mag = 44 auto mag, 357 mag = 357 auto mag, etc.

Nick Eigel

Any plans to cover more niche roles (Suppressed, PDW/SBR, Nightvision, etc.) that the WWSD rifles might be adapted to? I'd be curious to hear how you would apply the philosophy of the project to other roles within modern military doctrine.

Ryan H

This is an excellent question.

Brion Brigman

So in modern life there is always the AK vs AR argument. Was there anything like that in the old west. Like was there the Winchester vs Spencer or something similar with their own versions of fan boys and naysayers. Thank you

Ryan H

Karl, you mentioned in a recent video that you consider a computer a weapon. What are some of parallels you see with emerging information technologies as it relates to firearms? As a fellow information security professional, I would love to hear your take on this subject.

Vozlek

You guys said that you were working on a WWSD DMR, would that be in .224 Valkyrie or you waiting to see if its just hype?

Glen G Walker

Any thoughts on gear, chest-rigs, etc for novices? "Train as you would fight" or just Tacticool horseshit?

Matt Sedore

Whats your guys opinion on the scout rifle concept?

Ndub

What is your favorite new product from shot show other than the Franklin Armory REFORMATION

Tristan Sobey

What are the best drills and/or training regiments a new AR owner can do to become competent with the weapon platform?

Casey

Follow up question. What room do you keep Dugan locked up in when not filming with him?

Casey

If you had to move to another state, but got to choose which one, which would it be? Same question, but which country?

Dan

what's your opinion on red dot + magnifier vs LPV scope? (I'm considering options for a VZ58 in 7.62x39)

FrontTowardEnemy

Why did the Colt Single Action Army revolver become so popular during the "wild west" days? Especially with designs like the Smith & Wesson no.3 which were easier to reload.

Anthony Hope

In regards to SMGs, why create completely new designs instead of modifying and adapting already good designs. You both rave about the Suomi, could that have not been modernised as time progressed?

Chadi P. K.

Topic skirted during the Red October conclusion: Is the modern AK doomed to be the same old rifle from the 70's with a few extra rails or will we see fully modular, polymer receiver, AKs just like the AR family evolved?

Bourbon

Can people from europe attend at a 2gun event? Can we bring our own guns from europe?

Sean Cowden

Is there an example for when the Soviet/Russian military prioritized accuracy at the expense of durability. SVD being a DMR to save weight and reliability.

Persons Familiar with the Matter

How far along is the ban state video series? Any plans to cover ban state ARs like the thordsen stock or the SCR

Jordan Mcclelland

If the GWACS lower didn't exist what would you have used instead?

Matthew E Mulroy

What rifle cartridge do you wish was more popular or not understand why it wasnt more popular?

Mario Ayerdis

Do you have any suggested books for definitive firearms terminology? As in, reference material that defines what an assault rifle is, what a battle rifle is, what features classify operating mechanisms, etc.

Almeida

Do you have a particular tactic that you prefer to use in matches or always try to match doctrine with tool? Example using russian spray and pray with AKs

Kevin Smith

What happend to the 1870s lever gun seriesm

Ben P

I have seen you both use hats, helmets, bandanas and the like, but do either of you have a preferred method for keeping hair out of your faces during matches and competitions?

Daniel Tighe

What do you two wear for eye protection when you're shooting? Do either of you have any special requirements for eye pro like corrective lenses for poor vision or astigmatism?

Eamon B

What are your thoughts on mag couplers? Obviously you still need to reload, but it seems like it might save time in reloads while being cheaper than say a magpul drum.

Anthony Boyd

Do you guys have a prefered 308 battle rifle or do you see them as nothing but curios since 556 rifles like the WWSD rifle fill so many roles.

Dave Pastry

The stoner 63 platform included a solenoid fired configuration for use mounted on aircraft, but saw little use (from what I understand) due to the obvious problem with deflection and general anemia of wee 556 bullets in this role. my question is that they must have known this was going to be issue, so why go to the trouble of designing an aircraft config in the first place? Using this as an example what are some other examples of this sort of "failed from the start" engineering initiatives in firearms?

Nicholas Wineman

In the world of small arms, I argue that the system with the widest margin for improvement is the Light Machine Gun/Squad Automatic Weapon. What are your thoughts about the ultimate LMG considering the age of the M249, RPK, and the introduction of the IAR. Oh yeah and the awesome Stoner 63.

Terry Buchholz

I'll ask this again, but it's more than 1 sentence. In choosing a self defense ammo, gel tests are utilized with 12"-18" supposedly being the desired range. However, we're told gel doesn't represent the human body; and "great" gel test ammo being tested in other mediums (meat target from Paul Harrell's channel) and failing miserably. How do we make a knowledgeable choice or is there another test we should look at besides gel test results? What criteria do y'all look at? What rounds do y'all recommend? Thanks.

Nick Beckwith

I have reports from some quarters that the HK roller delayed blowback system as used in the HK 33 and 53 were 'not reliable' with 5.56mm ammunition. I can't figure out why this would be the case as 5.56mm has more recoil impulse than 9mm and the MP5 and P9 pistol work well. What's your take?

Aaron Norling

Enjoyed the addendum to WWSD addressing magazines. Do you see other topics (calibers & cartridges for example) being discussed in this series?

Dayhiker42

While I agree with everything you've said about 223 and the cases of Tula I've shot have significantly improved my performance, is there value in using another cartridge to extend the range and precision of the wwsd rifle in building a spare upper in 6.5 or 6.8 or other similar design or is the next logical step a full-sized cartridge?

Nick Beckwith

This is also a great question. S&W Schofield vs. Colt Peacemaker for example

Greg S

I've heard about studies where the army (or others) drew conclusions about things like average range of firefights or what weapons killed the most people. Is there similar data for reloads? How many rounds do soliders shoot, do they need to "speed reload", etc?

Adam Mangiardi

I recently saw Ian's video on the 7.92x41 mm cetme cartridge and i thought it was quite interesting. It made me wonder if the adoption of 7.62 Nato had a negative impact on firearms development. What are your guy's thoughts on this?

Davis Johnson

I have a question on hearing protection during matches, Ian runs an in-ear protector while Karl uses a muff style. Will you do a short pro & con of each style and which brands/models you prefer.

EM

Question for Ian: Will we see you use that Pattern 83 battle jacket in another competition? I know the last time it was on camera it didn't see much use.

Derek Martin

Karl as a cas shooter what would you recomend as a stater rifle pistol combo model caliber (smokeless/bp).

Spencer Lane

To Karl or Ian, what specifically about the shotgun part of 3-gun caused you and Ian to abandon it in crafting the sport of 2-gun?

Geoffrey Hayes

Would love to hear what you two every day carry. Not just gun. Watch, multitool, fidget spinners? Inquiring minds want to know

elitebuster

I'd love to know what is the one "feature" that you would like to disappear completely from the firearms marketplace, besides those abominations required by CA law.

Paul Dame

Beyond physical factors such as moon dust vs. snow, have you experienced mental adaptation challenges to shooting well in locales as variant as Finland and Arizona?

MattC10/63

Why is it so hard to get big channels to upload and support their Full30 page? As we have seen recently ( JY and Hank Strange) we could wake up one day and all firearm content could be scrubbed from YT and there’s nothing we can do about it.

Independent George

Have you had Deviant evaluate the security of your gun storage?

chris H.

What do you see the future of telescoping ammunition to be in small arms? both militarily and in the civilian market.

Michael Batza

Hello Carl and Ian love your videos, I wanted to hear your thoughts on the L5 rifle made by Forward Defense Munitions. I found it interesting in that it seems to be a merging of the most advanced technology (electronic trigger) and ancient technology (it’s a harmonic rifle).

Michael Batza

(My thoughts) Its ability to volley fire makes it an interesting workaround for machine gun laws but since it’s all electronic the first person to jailbreak its programming could make it a machine gun and get in a lot of trouble. Makes me think how technology and innovation beats regulation at the end of the day. Also it’s just silly that their advertising this thing as using caseless ammo it’s like saying a black powder revolver uses caseless ammo. Sadly if this thing costs thousands of dollars it’ll find itself on an episode of forgotten weapons faster than Franklin Armory Reformation and the Standard Manufacturing S333

Michael Batza

Cool question I to always wondered about recoil mitigating guns and if the benefits are worth the added complexity. They actually did a video recently on InRange where they talked about the Vector specifically.

Matthew Krotzer

What, if any exist, are some good resources to learn more about ww1 trench clubs.

Michael Batza

I fear the downfall of all bottlenecked cartridges (7.62x25Tok, 357sig, 5.7x28, 4.6x30, and 22 TCM) is COST they always seem to be more expensive than other rounds. I shoot 357 sig and it is hard on the wallet. I’ve also heard some people complain about the blast and flash the comes with shoot bottlenecked cartridges. I’ll be really curious to hear what Ian and Carl think.

Michael Batza

I vaguely remember Carl mentioning that he has a Vepr 12 I’d love to see a video on that. Yes shotgun videos please!

stuka444

This is to both; if there was one gun you could simply delete from history, what would it be?

Andrew MacDougall

do a mug test on the CZ P-07. it past the Military Arms Channel's gauntless with flying colors even though the Glock 17 did not, just as in Ian's mud test of last year. so I'd be interested in seeing how the P-07 does in Arizona mud.

Paul Montanari

Asked multiple times: Any opinions on the M27iar vs. RPK and other mag fed automatic rifles? Any chance for a comparison or 2 gun match of semi-auto clones??? Also opinions on the return of Automatic rifles as the squad support weapons IE marine m27 and ruski rpk16

elitebuster

This may not be the place, but why would you want to go farther towards a full size cartridge?

elitebuster

I think Ian reveals some of his thoughts on this in the forgotten weapons videos on the EM series of rifles.

Andrew Duke

They have a series of videos with him using it at a match.

Mika (Koro)

(Attempt #3) About two years ago uploaded a video interviewing Jim Sullivan that included a demonstration of his modified (ArmWest?) AR-15 design. Can you give us an update as to what happened to his program since then and perhaps you revisit his work as a compliment to the WWSD project - Maybe bring your rifles along and see how he likes them?

Dayhiker42

I guess more specifically since my first rifle is a 14.5" 223, if I'm going to build a second upper as something to be used more for varmint hunting than match shooting, does it makes sense to look at the other calibers available for the ar-15 platform

Matthew C.

1) What do you guys think about off-setting a red dot to a 4x? I if you got a piece of 45 degree picatinny rail and put a good red dot, you'd get the magnification of a 4x and the close up benefits of having the red dot.

Herk

I know Eric Grauffel has come to the USA from France to compete with his guns. There is an interview with him on The 3-Gun Show podcast where he talks about it.

Herk

With Ian's agility, he seems like the natural "doorkicker". With Karl's NRA High Power background he seems like the natural "designated marksman" (oops, I mean "rifleman"). How did you guys choose which WWSD17 configuration you would adopt?

Skyler Rose

Any plans to review the HMG Stg?

bird

Do you fellows plan on ever doing a "deep dive" on web gear/load bearing equipment and body armor, how it evolved over time, and what's out there today?

John W

Firearm technology seems to have stagnated; do you think this is because of the limitation of using cartridge based propellants, legal/economic limitations, or because we've reached the zenith already?

Ryan Allen

What would Stoner do slings?

Zachary Tolley

I know this is from two years ago, but in your Kel-Tec RDB review Ian mentioned he was taking it to a class after the conclusion. I was curious if Ian did end up taking it to the Pat McNamara class and if so how the gun did? Thanks!

Andrey

Hello Karl and Ian. Do you think it is possible to test some equipment that does not necessarily affect individual soldier's performance on the field, but is essential for military effectiveness, i. e. radio gear, navigation gear etc. using competitive environment not unlike 2gacm?

Will Rodger

You guys both mentioned liking tea in the British rationing series. What is your favorite kind of tea and method of preparation?

Zachary Eggebeen

Do you have any suggestions for alternative to contact lenses for shooting situations? What have you seen people use at matches?

Nathaniel Myers

How do you feel about the use of forged vs cast front trunnions in AKs? Are properly manufactured and hardened cast front trunnions a viable alternative in AK builds?

David Hampe

What are your opinions on sight blackening techniques for iron sight competitions like CMP high power, among others? Are there methods that you have seen work better or worse than other options?

PHAZE

What would you say is the minimum training level necessary to effectively use a concealed carry pistol in a combat situation?

Mike

Do you think that traditional marksmanship techniques such as the loop sling and hasty sling have any real world application outside of NRA high power?

Jon B

Were there many international patreon fans at Desert Brutality 2018? I would love to attend next time but would need to borrow some gear. Is this possible?

RompaStompa

When will we see more vignettes?

Jeffrey

I remember you guys stating that the Magpul BAD lever were in fact bad for the WWSD ARs. What don't you like about them?

Laurence Rosen

When setting up a camera security system for a home, would you also include indoor cameras to be able to see the major areas of the house from your bedroom, or would you be concerned about others getting access to the feed? Third time asking, I've rephrased in an attempt to streamline the question. Also, will you guys be attending the TIGER Valley 2 man match in may?

MarvinCZ

Why don't (AFAIK) any "modern" guns with a rock-in magazine use a spring-loaded front magazine catch à la ZH-29? It seems like an easy upgrade that would make inserting the magazine easier. Or is there a catch?

Brian I

Did you look at the HABU charging handle by Falcon 37?

Groaghach

How is the CavArms "Icarus" holding up? Is it placed in a glass case and worshiped daily or is it still being used and beaten (but not seen on video)?

Justin

Which War in the Pacific battlefield would you most like to visit/tour?

Joe

Do you plan to test any 1x prism optics as red dot alternatives for WWSD, for the sake of those of us horribly crippled by Astigmatism? I've been eagerly awaiting the release of Primary Arms' Cyclops 1x optic, not sure if that's been on your radar.

Ian Tompkins

I think CAS is pretty cool, but would be greatly enhanced if combined with 2-gun style elements. Do you know of, plan to participate in, or create any of your own 2-gun CAS type events?

andrew hazel

Do you feel you have deviated from the content that attracted your core audience? Many people, including myself, have considered or are currently pulling support due to a PERCEIVED shift in content to a more 'generic youtube gun channel' focus

RompaStompa

Been watching for years and I believe that there has been no straying. The topics have been varied with emphasis on practicality, current tech. Q&A is still here with lots of match coverage.

Nathan Shocklee

Would the AK benefit from a Faxon type barrel? I.E. Potentially reducing barrel whip.

Cyrus Freeman

I know i already asked something, but here's a another in "not guns": What do you think of opting out of google, such as using zoho or gmx for mail?

Peter Shone

Are your WWSD faxon pencil barrels compatible with sustained full auto?

Brian I

What do you have planned for Inrange in the near future?

Brian I

Did you find anything at Shot Show 2018 that you plan to follow up on with Inrange?

Scott Walworth

Karl mentioned shooting 90 grain bullets out of an AR on a Primary and Secondary episode. I think it was a Knights employee on P&S that stated that he was getting sniper rifle like accuracy out of a 308 AR using really heavy bullets, short barrels and fast twist rates. Is their any chance that you might explore this concept with your WWSD specialist AR?

Rick Sexton

What gun got each you hooked on shooting?

Michael Batza

Whoever takes from gun Jesus suffers a fate worse than death -- eternal damnation!

Michael Batza

I was sorry to see Carl did not answer this question, so I did a little research myself. I only really came up with one reason: the overall length of the 7.62x25 is too long to fit in any handgun platform designed for the big 3 (9 mm, 40 Smith & Wesson, and 357 sig) so it would have to be chambered in the larger framed handguns design for 10 mm or 45 ACP. And in most people’s minds if you’re shooting a larger framed handgun would be silly to shoot a 30 caliber round, remember a lot of people think if you’re not shooting something that starts with a 4 you’re a wimp. There is one other possibility but it’s highly unlikely, perhaps companies are little worried about chambering handguns in that caliber since it can defeat body armor (3A) easily. They wouldn’t want to take all that time and effort redesigning a gun to shoot 7.62x25, only for that ammo to be banned. The greatest argument against that is there are $200 handguns readily available i.e. surplus in wide circulation. Altogether cool question.

Michael Batza

The many force multiplying accessories that the military puts on their guns. Lights, lasers, night vision, scopes, etc. that's probably where all the extra weight would come

Michael Batza

I'm sure the most anti-free to members of government are already trying to outlaw these things but the honest truth is unless all gun ownership was forced underground these things will never permeate the mainstream. You'll always have hobbyists using these items but unless government banned everything and somehow actually confiscated everything these will always remain rather obscure because as long as black-market guns exist why would you take the time to build your own. The only thing that ever worried me about this type of stuff is if a militant group manufactured a bunch machine guns using this type of equipment. Also at the end of the day gun can be made from nothing more than scrap metal built with just files.

Benjamin Ross

Ill have to ask again next month. I guess.

Benjamin Ross

I really do think it is an underappreciated round. How cool would a polimer framed double stack 7.62x25 pistol be?