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I was contacted directly by Bloomberg Media via email regarding our recent move to PornHub as a distribution point asking for further information.

This was my reply to them verbatim, with no edits.

~Karl

"Hello,

Thank you for your interest in InRange and for looking into this issue deeper as it is obviously an important one that deals with far more than just our content on InRange, but touches at the core of social media’s control over what has become increasingly “the public sphere of conversation”.

YouTube’s recent update on their policy towards firearm content is extremely poorly worded and open ended. It is unclear what their goals are directly, as well as what content is (or might be) actually effected. YouTube’s actions against firearms related, as well as some other, content over recent history has been increasingly arbitrary and capricious so there is little reason to believe that this new policy is not going to be used to hammer content creators into whatever corner they see fit. Over the last year or so we’ve seen our content be de-prioritized, flagged erroneously, demonetized by AI bots with little recourse, subscribers lose their notifications and subscription status without warning and more.

InRange has taken a number of steps to partially mitigate this attack against our legal and responsible content: we deleted our AdSense account entirely and moved to a crowd sourced funding model wholly via Patreon, have posted a number of videos in regards to digital rights and issues above and beyond that of just firearms related content, and we’ve decentralized the distribution of content to multiple delivery networks. At this time we are currently publishing content simultaneously on YouTube, Full30, Facebook, BitChute and now PornHub. We will not be seeking any monetization from PornHub and do not know what their monetization policies are, we are merely looking for a safe harbor for our content and for our viewers.

I would like to point out that a very simple search on YouTube for marijuana and bong reveals substantial results of people explaining, teaching the use of, advocation and actively using a Federally illegal schedule 1 substance:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=marijuana+bong

While I personally believe that people should have autonomy over their own body and be allowed to make personal choices about what they intake into themselves, I can’t help but find it hypocritical and disturbing that clearly illegal activity is acceptable while clearly legal activity, such as the content we distribute via InRange, is being actively persecuted.

In summary, we are looking for a safe harbor for our legal content and viewers, monetization aside. YouTube has the global dominance over the public narrative and it is unacceptable, in our opinion, for them to threaten livelihoods and legal content regardless of whatever current moral panic is in play.

If I can be of any further assistance, please let me know.

Sincerely,
Karl Kasarda
&
Ian McCollum"

Comments

Matt Rio

👏👏👏👏👏

Paul Craig

Well said. I am wary of Pornhub but I understand your reasoning for using it to host videos free from censorship. Thank you for your content.

ayures

What did Bloomberg say in the email?

MATTHEW DROPCO

I shared the FB post from forgotten weapons to my FB with a little commentary congratulating you guys for thinking outside the box or with a Hacker ethic.

Kyle Clark

Maybe theyll make a new category for you titled "Knowledge Porn" or "gun porn" haha.

Scott

Well said. I hope Bloomberg runs an accurate article on it (if at all)

Kyle Clark

Btw. Now I have a safe way of explaining why porn hub is in my browser history so thanks!

Anonymous

I am excited to see you boys taking a stand and thinking outside the box. This is a bold move and speaks volumes to your ethics of freedom! I stand with you!

Chris Cherry

Wow, yep InRange is there, now to erase that on my browser history... LOL

Giovanni B. Ponzetto

Karl, can I redistribute your response via twitter, or is it under some content nondisclosure with Bloomberg?

Eric Elcock

Good luck. I wish more people would use full30 so YouTube could be abandoned. However gaining new viewers who casually find your content would be a problem.

Anonymous

Karl - very well put sir.

Grant Howard

The main issue I was having with the other methods of distribution was the websites in general. Full30 is rocky at best, Facebook isn't great either, BitChute seems to still be figuring things out. Youtube was king because of how smooth things went. PornHub is a very well made site as well so the ....uh "experience" will be very similar. I tried to make this response as professional as possible, but the process of doing so was long and hard ;) sorry I couldn't resist.

Anonymous

Yeah they just wanna try to use this move as more antigun bullshit and make pro gun people look bad. Watch they will pull qoutes from your response out of context or something.

Anonymous

Very well written!

SDA

Well said, I look forward to seeing their response (if there is one).

Anonymous

Gun porn and regular porn all in one place.

Anonymous

How did they know you posted to PornHub?

Anonymous

That is a great response. they were looking for something scandalous. You gave them the facts. Not that they will follow up or report them.

Anonymous

I look forward to possibly hearing what Bloomberg has to say in response. Thanks for fighting the good fight guys.

Anonymous

From the article: “InRange TV, another channel devoted to firearms, wrote on its Facebook page that it would begin uploading videos to PornHub, an adult content website. “YouTube’s newly released released vague and one-sided firearms policy makes it abundantly clear that YouTube cannot be counted upon to be a safe harbor for a wide variety of views and subject matter,” InRange TV wrote. “PornHub has a history of being a proactive voice in the online community, as well as operating a resilient and robust video streaming platform.” PornHub didn’t immediately return a request for comment on the matter. “

Anonymous

I just heard about d.tube today as well, might be another good place for distribution? Similar to bitchute

Andy

Excellent Karl and Ian - that is why I am a big fan. Selective large scale censorship to warp the narrative is unacceptable. Our rights do not end where their feelings start. This debate needs to go to the courts. The wholesale takeover of internet freedoms run counter to the philosophy of it's founders. Your response was totally appropriate.

Brandon T

I would usually call this brilliant choice "thinking outside the box," but in this particular case it's probably more apropos to say "thinking *about* the box". Sorry, I'll show myself out.

Anonymous

Thank you for continuing to fight the good fight Karl and Ian. I have just updated my pledge to the next level.

Anonymous

Masterfully said, gentlemen!

Anonymous

Excellent response.

Sabertooth88

Excellent response! I always appreciate your advocacy, Karl and Ian.

Mark Farris

Looking forward to the Bloomberg arrival

Teddy

Thank you for taking the high road with your response. Your quote in Bloomberg's article juxtaposed against the quote from Spike's Tactical demonstrates a night-and-day difference in the level of respect in discourse. Too often, the discussion about firearms is dominated by people who have no concept of arguing for the audience instead of chasing applause lines, so thank y'all for being a voice of reason!

Anonymous

I'm assuming Pornhub is onboard with hosting InRange type content? They aren't going to pull the same shit that YouTube has?

Anonymous

Well put👍🏻

Anonymous

It looks like Varusteleka will be selling many more “erase my browser history” patches

The Inked Anarchist

Amen! This is EXACTLY why I support both InRange and Forgotten Weapons. This is well put and exemplary of the type of responses any advocate for rights and liberty must take in these situations.

Anonymous

This a very telling snippet from the article: “Companies with streaming services, such as Amazon.com Inc., Apple Inc. and YouTube, declined to remove the NRA channel.”

The Inked Anarchist

Using government courts to force businesses to do business with those whom they do not wish to is equally antithetical to the fight for personal liberty.

Anonymous

could you tell what prompted Bloomberg Press to reach out to you in the first place?

Ben Dean

It's that kind of thought out and well put response that I expected from you Karl, good job 👍🏻

Anonymous

Honestly, the only thing that's kept me watching your vids on YouTube instead of a different service is that Full30 and Bitchute aren't a viable replacement for due to lack of solid mobile support. I'd love to see a real competitor to Youtube arrive for most content. I know the vast majority of game streamers are moving to twitch, but their heavy focus on live streams over uploaded content doesn't match up too well with other types of videos I'd watch.

Anonymous

Thank you for bringing up that YouTube seems to have no problem with drug paraphernalia how-tos, among other things.

Anonymous

Seems like the providers, in this case Full30, needs a Patreon account. They don't seem to have one. I know that Patreon was started for content providers but without the streaming servers the content has no place to go.

Anonymous

Full30 is an invite only service though.

Kurt Feltenberger

At first I thought this was a joke, but then...well...a quick trip and a search and wow...Very creative and outside the box thinking. Bravo! I do want to compliment you on your extremely well written and persuasive reply that informs without preaching, and points out the hypocrisy that YouTube presents with its one sided views.

James Healy

I often hear in youtube comments about accusations of bias in media, fake news etc, but from my perspective that didn't read like a hit piece or as if it had any particular bias. I'm not saying you guys in the US don't have your rights under threat, but even in these comments there are dire predictions of how bad the piece will be, and it doesn't appear to me to have worked out that way. Again, not trying to say it doesn't happen as it's hard to keep track from the other side of the planet, it just didn't seem to happen here.

Kyle Hughes

You guys rock! This is exactly why I support you!

Anonymous

man. this is a gamechanger. i can combine some of my favorite hobbies.

Anonymous

You guys are awesome.

Anonymous

This was very well put. The journalist pretty much had their article handed to him/her here.

Anonymous

Well said gentleman!!!!!!

Anonymous

Brilliant idea to upload to an unconventional source. PS. I will refer my wife to this post if she ever happens upon my browser history...

Anonymous

A very eloquent response, though, if you'll excuse me being a pedant, I think the use of 'effected' is incorrect, I think it should be 'affected'. Yes, I do feel silly and rude for pointing it out. In any case, having read the article, I feel you got your point across well in a professional manner, reflecting the high quality, mature firearms content you create. Now I begin wondering if content can be taken down from a streaming service for not being pornography, it would certainly be hilarious and possibly a first in the history of the internet.

Anonymous

I'm seeing several news agencies report on what you've done. Congrats on the publicity! Lots of people calling out YouTube for being stupid is how we get them to change, or at minimum to clarify their vague policy. YouTube is catching more and more heat for their stupid stuff. Hopefully they'll get their shit together or a competitor will see the opportunity.

Ed Bratton

version which will appear quoted on Bloomberg ". At this time we are currently publishing content... on ... PornHub."

Edwin A. Novak

Congratulations! Will a "court of public opinion" arise on "our" behalf? I applaud your gutsy work.

Anonymous

Just upped my donation to $5. 'strike me down, and I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine' lol

Anonymous

Well written and to the point. I'll follow this carefully. Please, let me know how else, in addition to Patreon, I can be of help.

Mikael V.

You're on PornHub? While I understand using as many distribution channels as possible, I very strongly disagree using a service that spams search engine results.

Kyle

The way things are going, we're going to end up subscribing to a porn site for our historical, educational, firearms and science videos. Because "progress" or something.

Anonymous

Very well written

Anonymous

Thank you for being a well informed, well spoken and professional spokesman the pro 2A community needs now more than ever.

Kenneth Marshall

Thanks Karl & Ian. I'm sure the Bloomberg Press will do a "Godfrey Jones" (Simpsons) editing job on your words and retell your statement as some distorted rhetoric. Thanks for keeping cool heads and intelligent conversations. We appreciate your efforts.

Phillip F.

Thanks, Karl and Ian, for everything y'all do for your viewers, and for the firearms community in general - keep up the great work, y'all are awesome. :) Though I'm sure others have already posted it, here's a link to the resulting Bloomberg article, along with a quote that includes the InRange TV references and quotations (the below paragraphs found towards the last part of the article) for those that would rather not click on the link for any number of reasons: <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-21/youtube-bans-firearm-sales-and-how-to-videos-prompting-backlash" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-21/youtube-bans-firearm-sales-and-how-to-videos-prompting-backlash</a> "InRange TV, another channel devoted to firearms, wrote on its Facebook page that it would begin uploading videos to PornHub, an adult content website. “YouTube’s newly released released vague and one-sided firearms policy makes it abundantly clear that YouTube cannot be counted upon to be a safe harbor for a wide variety of views and subject matter,” InRange TV wrote. “PornHub has a history of being a proactive voice in the online community, as well as operating a resilient and robust video streaming platform.” PornHub didn’t immediately return a request for comment on the matter."

Anonymous

#YoutubeCensorship #YoutubeNarativeControl #GoogleCensorship #LeftWing #BiasedMedia #Full30 #Patreon #DumpYoutube #BigMedia #Orwell #1984 #BigBrother #NewSpeak #TruthMinistry #MinistryOfLove #IntolerantLeft

TheOlsonOutfit

The funny thing is I was just starting to get gun videos in my suggested videos stream again, and then YouTube pulls this nonsense.

Domingo Chavez

Just canceled my Youtube Red subscription. I've been putting it off for awhile but this latest policy update was the last straw. #oneless

Anonymous

This is an excellent opportunity for mobile programmers and coders to develop a streaming service to compete with youtube. Right now, there is no competition, since youtube is really the only reliable and usable user content driven streaming service. Full30 could really use some mobile development right about now.

Anonymous

Since Amazon sells firearms accessories, doesn't any video that promotes it or link to it violate the new community guidelines?

Bob Sacamano

I have to say I do not agree with the decision to upload to that website. It is a plague on our society. To support it in anyway is wrong in my opinion. I enjoy InRange but as to my further support of InRange I am undecided if InRange is going to affiliate with such a website.

Anonymous

PornHub? What good will your guns be when you make yourself go blind?

Andy

I am not a fan of Pornhub either. However I believe this issue is about first amendment rights and censorship. I agree they are going out on a limb here but think they are making a valid point. I upped my support.

ShallNotBeInfringed

Putting videos on pornhub is an excellent idea! It reinforces how the content is completely legal and the arbitrary nature of YouTube's virtue signalling censorship. It demonstrates how guns are being made taboo, just like sex has been made taboo and treated as evil in the past.

Brian I

Outstanding response

Brian I

There's a huge hypocrisy when it comes to firearms because of recent events. I did my own research on CDC's webpage and found alcohol to be more deadly than firearms. From the information there, less than 40% of firearms related deaths were homicide. Everyone blames guns when there is a tragedy but no one blames the car industry for not making breathalizer interlocks standard on every vehicle to reduce drunk driving. No one blames the brewery or distillery or the liquor store. But more people drink alcohol on the weekends than go to the gun range unfortunately so of course it's more popular and socially acceptable nowadays.

Brian I

For the record I don't wish to make light of any tragedy, my heart goes out to all affected. I just wanted to point out the hypocrisy and the difference in how people are treated.

Jon B

Fantastic response Karl - very well said. But can I ask why Pornhub?

Anonymous

The sad thing is that if they just started calling their videos stuff like "Review of Glock 17 Marijuana Bong" that would be a violation of YouTube's Terms and Conditions.

Anonymous

You've managed to make it into a BBC article!

Anonymous

The news wouldn't be reporting on this issue if InRange had moved to a BBS. The switch to PornHub is drawing media attention and extending InRange's voice. It's a very smart move.