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HMG Q&A series distribution? (Patreon)

Published:
2017-02-25 15:07:45
Edited:
2017-02-25 15:09:35
Imported:
2026-06

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You guys are the reason we can do InRangeTV.  I want to continuously remind you all of that, so thank you !

With that in mind, I'm looking for your thoughts.   We both believe that the deep dive sessions we're doing with Mac from HMG are fascinating, intelligent, technical and valuable.  That said, the views on them are less and less per session.  The first did great, the second one less so and now the third one is only at 6k after an entire day of publication.

Is this another "old west vignette" situation in which the content value surpasses any other consideration or should we be doing these less frequently?  Once a month, not weekly?

We're doing a very different one soon with Faxon regarding barrel manufacturing, btw.  :)

As always, you and your support guide the way.  Our goal of 4k in Patreon has huge ramificafions for InRange and me, honestly, so input from you is hugely valuable.

Thank you.

Karl 

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Steve Lavalette

Keep pumping out vids ! We love it all ! Yes some people have short attention spans. But Im sure anyone who supports you guys on patreon can't get enough !

Ben Gwilliam

All I can say is I will watch any video you produce. I like technical/ historical videos, but I am one view.

InRange TV

Take the current 1 hour videos and break them into individual 5 minute specific questions?

Timothy S Hennessey

While I love diving deep into the STG for a hour I think breaking them up into 20 minute or less segments released over a few days might increase the number of views overall. BTW, the number of views might be skewed by the extended period of time the earlier videos have been available.

Ashley Coleman

I really like the format you have at the moment! I think it's natural that there's a drop off there as people get their fill of StG minutia but I reckon you'd have the same problem (if not worse) with bitesize 5 minute videos ( if people won't watch 3 hour long videos on a fairly specific topic, I doubt they'll watch 20-something short ones). The current format gives time for the kind of detail that I think people interested in what you're doing want. Your recent long form videos like these and the PGO shotgun home decent video have been some of my favorite things you've done and I'm really looking forward to whatever you guys choose to do next!

Michael Smith

I don't have much to say about the STG videos, because I don't think I've watched very many of them. I like this channel for the range tests, particularly when you and Ian show a sense of humor, in addition to the 'serious' ones. The mud tests have also been interesting.

Shaun Christensen

I dig the deep dive into gun nerd conversations, big time.

John

I'm one of the people foaming at the mouth to get one, but I've had a month from hell. Planning on going back to watch them all.

Joseph S.

While I personally enjoy these longer format interviews (I enjoy C&R Arsenal's videos too). I've liked the HMG Stg series as I've been waiting for you guys to get your hands on one for a final review of a production model, as I didn't per-order one myself. For the shorter attention spans of the average Youtube viewer, maybe a shorter 15-20 minute video would be better with the occasional 45-60 min one once a month or so could work out for more views overall.

Bruce Brodnax

Hey Karl: I think you've got a couple of factors at work here: #1, & I've mentioned it before, the longer videos can sometimes be a handicap. #2, while I love all the content, you & Ian have *really* ramped-up your production rate [thank you!] and some of your loyal followers may not be up to speed yet. I know the only reason I've been able to keep up is because I've been home w/ the flu all week... #3, and please don't take this the wrong way, but this is largely a non-visual, pod-cast type of episode, which is harder to attract & hold folks' attention: I think a little more time between the HMG chat sessions will give the fan-base sufficient time to digest one episode & build enthusiasm for the next, but when you pop them out bam-bam-bam, it's too easy to saturate the audience.

Paul Kerns

I don't mind the HMG Q&A, however, I think people may be burnt out. I'll fully admit I haven't watched the 3rd session yet. I've seen a couple of other HMG focused videos from some other channels and I think anyone interested got saturated.

Just Take My Money

Fact is that multiple long videos on same subject don't do well on Youtube, regardless of content. From what I have seen is that ~25 min is max length if you want to retain majority of viewers. I as 1$ patron will watch every single one because this stuff really interests me and have transcended the need for sleep.

David K

The hour long format is not a problem in it self, however you are starting to create content for a very niche audience. The first couple where good as people where interested in knowing the state of the HMG project, however by the third video my curiosity about the STG project was saturated. What I would love to see is you guys doing interviews/Q&As with industry people on mechanics/design/manufacturing process. Sort of along the lines of what you did in one of your original HMG interviews (HMG Reproduction Sturmgewehr Pt I & 2). My gut feeling is 15-20 min segments, with some nice closeups or animations thrown into the mix when trying to explain something technical/mechanical (somewhere along the line of what Ian is doing with FW, CS-Arsenals animations, and military history visualized's animations). For instance i think a 20m video of parts of the "magazine" interview with HMG with some added animations would be super cool.

Darby Metcalf

The three videos so far are great, and not very often does a company set out to reproduce a historical firearm. I think even if the views are less and less each time I think it's important to catalog the process of the manufacturing of historic firearms and views will grow overtime.

Jerry Hales

I love the current format. I tend to watch on my lunch hour. I also really like live chats.

Steven Sutton

I really like the HMG Q&A series, I find the technical deep dive quite stimulating. After reading some of the other comments, I realize I never watch an entire Q&A video in one sitting. I generally break them up into three parts, about 20 minutes each, and find a pause point when you start a new question. I don't mind doing that, but maybe it would be helpful to other viewers for you to split it up into shorter videos. Each video could be focused on an individual topic or set of questions, and you could put a subject in the title of the video. I know that means more video editing work for you, but it would have the benefit that you post more videos.

Tyler Martin

I'm enjoying it a lot but I am also watching it in 2-3 sittings for each video. I will say I am surprised video #3 came so soon, maybe spacing it out more would do better?

Jordan W

The deep dive videos may be a niche market, but I fit squarely in that niche (design engineer and gun nerd) so I don't see the need for the change personally. With that said, the nature of the beast with these videos will be diminished returns. The casual viewers aren't going to keep coming back for hour long videos once a week.

Ratus

If you keep making them, I'll keep watching. It's a fascinating view into the manufacturing side of the industry that isn't just a 5 minute video of "look at this shiny machine doing something without context".

Alex Auman

Someone may have already said it, but the length is what kills me. I love the topics and information but a 50 minute video isn't great for the type of topic and information that keeps viewers glued. I watched two of these videos most of the way through, but I largely had it playing in the background while paying about 70% attention to it. The second time I put it on my Amazon Firestick to stream on the TV while doing other things. In my opinion, its just far too long.

Caleb Ray

I know I am in the minority but I do enjoy these and the Old West Vignettes. Personally I enjoy the length but I'm also the person who will get lost in a wikihole for hours before realizing I haven't eaten that day.. I feel much would be lost if it were made shorter. That said I can see it being difficult for many to carve out a full hour to watch. I'm sure its come up before but I really think this type of longer content Q&A almost feels more like it should be in the realm of podcasts more than video. I would love to listen to this kind of content when I'm driving to and from work or on road trips.

Rupanrx

Love the videos. Sold 3 pistols to buy a stg44 but found out they aren't shipping to MA. Im going to see if a NH ffl will let me buy one. I am an ex-combat engr and studying to be a mechanical engr. These videos rule! How much for an Inrangetv smock?

Zachary Ellinger

Carl mentioned he had a suppressor for his SMG, but he rarely used it because of weight, balance, and length. Could you guys do a video on the pros & cons of using a suppressor?

Samuel K Harsha

I love the videos but once a week might be a pit much for an hour for most viewers. Try once a month on those... or maybe try to edit them up and do 10 minute segments every week.

Drakin Kubala

The Q+A is very cool, however the straight web camera format leaves a little bit to be desired. Its kind of hard to just sit there and watch a hour or so worth of straight web camera video, But Im just being honest.

Gabriel Arambula

The total length and facetime format is a bit much. I don't want to see people talking. I want to see early prototypes failing and new prototypes running smoothly. I want to see lathes and mills running. I want to see math, and science, and in general be visually entertained with watching the actions of men hard at work, not just hearing about it. Why can't the sessions be broken up by slow motion videos of guns working (and failing!), or simple (e.g. non-proprietary) stamping operations? I also agree with other members that 10 to 15 minutes over a month session would be much more digestible.

Lee Hetrick

Karl, I watch everything you and Ian, and Othias publish. IMO of the three most of your stuff appeals to a more rarified audience, your numbers are always going to be lower. But comparing your presentation to one of those bang-bang-shootitups is unfair to you. If my vote were ever to be solicited, I'd say stay the course. I learn so much from all three of you. But I curse you for Varusteleka. I just made my third order this afternoon! PS: do either you or Ian want a Bundeswehr Flecktarn field cap size 60? I had to order a 62 because my kopf is too groß.

Sean Smith

I know I am late to the party here, but I wanted to add my voice. I love all the content that InRangeTV does. I don't mind the length at all on the HMG Q&A video. I listen/watch them at work on my phone. I also don't mind the length of the normal Q&A videos cause there are questions getting asked that while I didn't think of them, I wanna know the answer. The topic in general is interesting, and I just wanna know more. I realize that there starts to be a point of diminishing returns, but I sincerely hope that you and Ian continue to put on the great content that you have been doing. If it was broken down into smaller parts, and released more frequently, I would still watch it and I would still enjoy it just as much as the hour long videos, since I just want to learn stuff. I love the Old West videos, just to look at the AZ landscape if nothing else. It is a serious case of seeing any where else than were you are seems exotic :D I devour with an insatiable appetite the 2G-ACM match videos and totally want them to come out more, but I totally understand why, since the match is once a month and both you and Ian have lives outside of InRangeTV. Word salad aside, as I have said before, I would watch you and Ian read a medical dictionary. I have enjoyed the growth of the channel over the years. I have no issues at all being a supporter of InRangeTV, and I know that you and Ian will do what you think is best to grow the channel in a way you see fit. Thank you for your hard work.

Terry Buchholz

I like them, but I think most of the viewers' "important" questions were answered in the 1st episode. I'm ready for the next one. Thank you and keep up the good work.