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Decentralizing the message / hardening our comms (Patreon)

Published:
2017-04-09 16:31:20
Imported:
2026-06

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For our endeavor to succeed, it requires that this message gets spread - not necessarily to bolster our Patreon but to encourage the idea and bolster subscriptions to our Youtube and Facebook channels. 

If there is intentional or algorythmic blowback from Youtube, we will be only able to reach patrons and directly subscribed viewers.

If you are willing, please support this endeavor via sharing and encouragement - it's as valuable as Patreon to InRange and this cause.

It would be great to be a guest on other channels, gun, tech, or social to spread the concept and understanding of the real issue here.   To even have  a chance at such a thing we need visibility.

Thank you as always!

~Karl


Comments

Anonymous

I link all your vids to gab and Instagram....

Sean Smith

I have absolutely no problem annoying the hell out of my friends with sharing everything that gets posted.

Anonymous

Karl, make sure to pass along the names of other less well know good people that deserve supporting.

Brandon T

Yep, I already send your vids on to others and will just do it even more often now. And your "I think it would be best if we had some time apart, YouTube" video instantly went on to my closest friends. :)

Anonymous

I don't do social media, but if there's anything my little corner of YouTube can do to help the cause, please don't hesitate to get in touch. InRange and especially Forgotten Weapons have been a big help to me & my content by aiding my research and allowing me to reference your work in my videos, and I'd be happy to return the favor.

Anonymous

Quite frankly I don't think any of the people around me save perhaps a couple would be interested, I'll share directly with them. However what may be quite well needed is to create/attract an additional audience of people who are tech, security, and information savvy and more interested because they can learn with minimal effort how to be so from your videos. It'd also help to integrate the rest of your audience who is otherwise entirely disinterested; for instance, I like and know firearms reasonably well. However, I am not at all savvy as to how to keep myself secure online, what philosophies to take in regards to all of this stuff, and even though I spend a fair amount of time online I haven't really any clue or care to about such things because it seems complex and pointless. It means I can't understand much when you want to actually get in depth, or don't think I can so simply won't watch them. A shorter and easy to understand introductory and intermediate video series is needed in regards to ethos, technical understanding, information security, what we can directly do, etc, if there isn't one out there that meets the necessary criteria. It'd grow your audience from within and without, and I for one would step up my contribution. Just something to consider

Anonymous

I'm a proud support of InRange and Forgetten Weapons on Patron now. Thanks for what you guys do.

Anonymous

inrange/forgotten weapons has quickly become my favorite YouTube channel. And I've made a patreon just to support the channel. I love the lack of zombies and exploding targets and you guys not falling into that crowd that has clogged up "guntube" keep doing what your doing and hurry up and do the history of Whilhelm Bobits!

Anonymous

Oh and I'm still trying to figure out patreon so bait with me haha

Anonymous

Yes, the "old media" is fighting to adapt and regain control--just like the large record labels in the evolving music industry. But an even bigger problem is that Google has become a massive unregulated monopoly of the internet. They can make arbitrary decisions that selectively destroy businesses because they have no viable competition in search or content distribution. So you have concentrated interest groups among the old media and Google, but the interests of the content makers are diffused among thousands of creators. You currently have no real power at the bargaining table. This is why Google makes billions taking an unfair share of advertising revenues from YOUR content. Until content creators can form a collective group with enough bargaining power to demand a fair share, they will continue to be squeezed on both sides by the old media and Google. Patreon frees you from dependency on ad revenue, but it is not a comprehensive or self-sustaining solution. I wouldn't have found your channel if not for youtube. Good luck in your fight--I will continue supporting you with my consumer dollars.

Anonymous

Karl, we would love for you to be a guest on our channel. I am a staff member at Primary & Secondary and would like to extend an invitation to yourself and/or Ian to join us as guests on one of our live episodes of ModCast. If you're interested please contact matt@primaryandsecondary.com.

Military Arms Channel

Imagine if we (content creators) moved our monetization to Patreon and then followed your lead in voluntarily demonetizing our channels. We then continue to use YouTube to process and host our videos, hundreds of them a year, and stream them millions of times a month for absolutely free. If we voluntarily don't monetize, YouTube can not make a single cent on our work yet they will carry the considerable burden of hosting and streaming our content. If enough mid to large sized channels did this it would seriously put a financial burden on YouTube and force them to the table. That, or they could elect to ban us... it is their house after all.

Anonymous

InRange TV and Forgotten Weapons are two of my favorite channels. I have increased my Patreon support from $1.00 for each channel to $2.50 per channel. Only wish i could do more. I guess i can share the videos on my facebook page and will do so henceforth. Keep up the great work.

InRange TV
>>4636079

YouTube is their house, but the internet is our house. That's my point, at least. We've come to think of YouTube as being the only solution and place for content distribution but I think that time needs to come to an end.

InRange TV
>>4634086

Matt, that sounds awesome! I just sent you an email right now from info@inrange.tv.

Military Arms Channel
>>4636079

You do realize that far more channels have been cheated or even temporarily demonetized than gun channels, right? Even the largest channel, Pewdiepie has been hit by all this.

Anonymous
>>4636079

Trey, you do realize the difference between revenue and profit, don't you? This article is nearly two years old but the situation for YouTube hasn't changed much - <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/news/4-reasons-youtube-still-doesnt-make-a-profit/." rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://www.cbsnews.com/news/4-reasons-youtube-still-doesnt-make-a-profit/.</a> P.S. I work for a very large online video distribution company and can tell you that every company involved in this business is scrambling right now to find a seat in the post-TV world. No one is caring about profits at the moment because they know that if they can successfully find that seat then the profits will be guaranteed eventually. If they can't find that seat then the profits they make now will be meaningless. YouTube simply wants to retain its position and stay in the good graces of advertisers.

InRange TV
>>4636079

Uh, yes - we've been the guys specifically bringing up that this is not a gun related thing. It's an internet and content control thing.

Anonymous

Do you guys not get revenue from YoutubeRed accounts?

Anonymous

Ask Steven Crowder (Louder with Crowder). They've been talking a lot about the you tube demonetization recently, having various youtubers on as guests. Do a cross promotion where you guys talk on his show and he shoots a match with you guys (he's a shooter, hasn't said on air if he's shot matches before). If you guys want to spread your message, over 700K youtube subscribers is a pretty big audience.