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Someone made a suggestion to me recently which I kind of liked.

As Tapas is set to close down next year, a user suggested creating a free option on my patreon with the same content that I would post publically on Tapas. I like this idea because Webtoons is now the only public platform I'll be stuck with for now, and they give me a hard time with censorship. I also feel like the reading experience on Webtoons isn't the best because of my comic format, and because they reduce my file sizes and quality suffers.

So a free option on my patreon would give basic assess to comic pages with censorship. No read ahead, no extras, no full chapter PDFs. Just another platform option for people to read on.

I also will probably be on the more conservative side when it comes to censorship because this content would be available for free and I don't want to push patreon's censorship boundaries.

Which is why I'm not sure if I should make this content simply available to free members or if I should make a free tier that you have to join? I'm paranoid about pushing censorship boundries in any way shape or form and I'm not confident which move is best.

I wanted to pitch this to ya'll to see if anyone has input? Complaints? Concerns? Thoughts? Share similar experiences?

Thank you all love you to bitsā¤ļøā¤ļø

Comments

Jordyn Probst

Do it! Patreon is a great app and way better than webtoons.

Skyfire

I think it would be a great idea

Cierra da Cruz

Free tier that’d they have to join. Then explicitly list out the type of content. It’s all about the CYA

J4XZII

bittie ur actually the goat

didzyx

i think this is a great idea and so thoughtful towards people in terms of preserving the quality of your art and wanting everyone to enjoy it all the same

tinyonion

Are there any downsides on your end (like a charge) of having a free membership specifically versus free to follow? Without knowing more of the backend technicalities, I wouldn’t want you to get dinged.

VioletRage8

I think a free membership would be a better idea! You don’t have to put any card info on it but it can help with patterns regulations? I think it’s a really smart move to combat tapas closing down

Monique Gilder

I think that this is an amazing idea because of the fact that I know of other creators who are also doing the same thing. It makes it so much easier to look at their content on this platform without having to pay for it. I’m obviously gonna continue to pay for this membership because your comics are amazing!! šŸ«¶šŸ¾

Bittie

That's what I was thinking šŸ¤”

Ino

I think making a free tier would definitely be better and letting the people still reading on tapas know about it. That way they can continue to read without having to deal with webtoon.

HoneyB

I think this is an excellent idea. A free tier would probably make it so you have less issues with censorship, correct? You could put on Webtoon "for less censoring, read for free on Patreon" and then also draw more potential patrons to your paid tiers šŸ™‚

Bittie

I don't think so but I need to make sure😳

Rose

I think that’s a great idea! And speaking from experience, there have been a couple comics I initially subscribed to with their free tier that I later upgraded to pay for.

Sacco2Ya!

As someone that's a paid member I ONLY consume your content here because Webtoon got really bad with ads last year and I stopped opening it. There's probably a good chunk of people that would be happy to have a free membership to join so they don't HAVE to go to Webtoon that don't want to.

TheModernPrimate

I think that's a wonderful idea, but I'm also against webtoons.

kira

I think if you do it making it a free tier would be the best option, it would give people the chance to look through the other tiers and bring more viewers to the Patreon! though I don’t have much experience with Patreon and the way things like that work

Sami Law

I think I heard Manta is opening to the public soon?

Lime Zest

I think that’s a great idea!

Stephanie Stewart

There's another comic artist that I follow who just made a free tier that you have to join. I like it cause I get notifications just like I do with the patreon accounts I pay for. I've followed other accounts and not been part of a tier and it was frustrating. I only saw things if I was on patron for another account close to the same time they posted. And that was before patreon added those recommended pages to my home screen. Now it'd just get lost I'm sure

Kimmi McGee

Mind as well up the price just a tad bit as well. I’ll still support!

Esther Navarrete

This is amazing!!! This will also bring more people to Patreon and will probably make you gain suscribers

HoneyB

I think this could actually get more paid memberships as well, cause plenty of ppl will see what they're not getting and go "i want tooooo" just like I did lol. Even when I had to lower my membership I couldn't go without reading ahead 😭

Goose

I think this is genuinely such a good idea, and honestly probably pretty good for business too šŸ‘€ I know it’s not about that, but that being a possible outcome certainly isn’t a bad thing šŸ™‚ā€ā†•ļø

Bittie

I heard about that too, I don't really know much about them though. It's something I'll have to check out when the time comes 😳

Siri

I am a free member on a couple of creators pages. It works well for me 🤷

Camillah Khan

Hey Bittie. So glad you’re considering this. I personally don’t know the difference between having a free tier and having it simply available. I’m all for either and I think it would make the comic much more accessible. I’m not the biggest fan of Webtoon and I know many Tapas users aren’t. Also I think having multiple tiers on Patreon makes me feel more inclined to buy membership more often, cause I’m already reading here, rather than going to a whole new place. Just my two cents. I hope you find something that works for you!!

Bittie

Thank you for that information!!! I really appreciate you sharing your experience, it's helpful to know.

JoastyJoe

Free tier that people can join would be perf!!! Webtoon (bringer of All the world’s ills) is so restrictive and anti-creator that it would be a bummer to only be able to post the free content there. I think this is a great solution! :D

HoneyB

Right the notifications! That's a great point.

Goose

To clarify: I know it will be free, but it will in general bring more people to Patreon which will probably naturally encourage them to upgrade their tiers while they’re already here. And I’m always down for extra support for Bittie šŸ”„

HoneyB

I get so excited when I see fellow creatives making good business decisions in this economy šŸ’ƒšŸ¾ gotta tell my comic friend about this!

Bee

I think it’s a great idea, I do enjoy having the censored ā€˜lightsaber’ panel option so I can still appreciate the art without seeing too much. Would the free version need to be a more censored version than that? Or would there then become 3 levels of censorship that you’d be doing, one for the free version, a lightsaber one, and the uncensored version?

Bittie

Yes exactly! Less extreme then Webtoons for sure, but still moderate as a safety precaution

ā™”ShutUpā˜†I'mReadingBLā™”

I would be cautious posting any actual sex scenes on a free tier, even heavily censored. Other artists I follow have said they've checked with Patreon, and they've been told all sex scenes, even censored need to be behind a paywall. So, the censorship guidelines seem to be closer to WT than Tapas, unfortunately šŸ˜•

Artemis Heist

I did here manta was opening self publishing

HoneyB

hmmm... $0.01 tier? šŸ˜…

Belen Herrera

A few other content creators have also done the same. A join for free Patreon version since Tapas closed down. That way some readers are not lost. It was also clear the difference in posts of those who pay for content vs free

Missiek43

I spend my ink to read ahead every Saturday so I was just going to pay for a sub with you here...same same, ya know? But a free tier for people to join is a good idea. šŸ’“

Jade

Amazing idea go off qween šŸ’…šŸ’…šŸ’ŖšŸ’ŖšŸ’ŖšŸ„³šŸ„³

Lacey Rogers

Manta is now opening to the public and they are already porting over a lot of titles. Might be worth looking at them as well.

Bittie

Hi Bee!! So the "lightsaber" option for Tier 1 would not change. I've been making more heavily censored versions of the comic pages for Tapas and Webtoons and the idea is to simply also make those pages available on my Patreon for free, just as they were free on Webtoons and Tapas. Doing this wouldn't change any of the currently available tiers. Does this answer your question? Let me know if I'm not clear or if you have other questions šŸ™‡ā€ā™€ļø

Teslawna

I think it's a great idea. But, I wanted to mention that I saw on a few creator's Instagram feeds that Manta will be opening up to indie comics and novels in November. Just FYI. Another option.

Sharon Stogner

I've seen a few do this. Makes good business sense too. They will get the same content but you have them looking at your Patreon page which could increases the chance they will join a paid tier.

Bittie

Okay yikes! Good to know. Thanks so much. I may just have to post single panels for sex scenes unfortunately in this case, like I have to on Webtoons. I have to tread carefully because Patreon can simply deactivate my page if they decide that I am not following content guidelines

Bittie

Thank you so much for sharing!!

TheMidwestJess

I imagine having a free tier that people would have to join would be the safer option, since even the censored content would be specifically opt-in that way. With stuff just freely up and available, I'd be worried about people stumbling across it when they didn't intend to, and that's not good for either party. Cause I've seen Patreon starting to recommend me "accounts you may also like" and I'd worry that it would actually show posts when doing that. I can't remember if it currently does that or only shows the profile, but either way, I say CYA and go with the free tier, just go be on the safe side. Also, I didn't realize Tapas is closing down?? I guess I haven't been over there in a hot minute.

Anthony Algee

I like it I think that’s a very creative way to still get your content out there for people who want to keep up with it and you’re free to determine what that level means to you and what access they should be able to have

Bittie

Yes I get recommendations too and that's exactly why I was concerned šŸ˜ž And yes Tapas is unexpectedly and suddenly being closed down as decided by their parent company. They will close down on March 31st 2027.

Bittie

Someone else just informed me that Patreon actually requires all sex scenes to be behind a paywall so the content may have to be censored in a similar way to Webtoons šŸ˜ž

fivedollaradjective

There's a few webtoons I follow like this. There's the free one anyone can read, but you pay to read ahead of schedule and uncensored. The other option is to build your own website.

Daisy

This seems like a great idea, but I’m wondering how much work would that have to be for you? If patreon has the same sort of censorship guidelines as webtoons, would you have to manually post/edit/repost all of the free content that has to be censored? 😭

Amtonril

I actually think this might be a good idea. It'd be the same as you have been doing but simply on a different platform. There's another creator I follow on here who has a free member option since their comic was taken down and it's been wonderful!

Bittie

It might be less work actually? Maybe. Because right now the way I've been doing it is I censor for tapas and Webtoons in the same way. And when Webtoons rejects it I go in and censor further and further for Webtoons until they approve it. I go back and forth with them a lot usually. So maybe now it will be just a one step conservative censorship edit? 😭

Bittie

I also don't think i'll be reposting the whole comic I may just post chapter 25 and onward It's too tedious to post the entire comic page by page and I want to retain the full chapter PDFs as a perk for the $1 tier

Joanna Roeder

You could also still post to Webtoons as a way to drive people to your Patreon.

Bittie

Oh yes I'll still be posting on Webtoons. This would just be another platform option for people who don't like Webtoons

Misa

Uou could do both like webtoons extreme censorship in free available and typical availability in teir to join or even have the free to veiw as fluff and plot / story "ads"

rivka

I'd say if you do offer a free tier, on the subject of censoring, have a look at the comic 'boy next door' by WinterBlazeC (you're both on the same genre) while it is still on tapas + compare those pages to what the author shares on webtoons (+ then guess what is offered through patreon where un-censored). I'd think you'd be able to offer a bit more mature content than what WT allows (since that author has skipped pages they were allowed on tapas) but not too much more, as patreon will likely be on the same route as Tumblr (taking away NSFW content/adult topics) to be still allowed on American app stores. if any of that makes sense šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø I'm a paying member so what bothers me is you not having a platform to decently showcase your work without cutting out entire sections for censorship.

Bittie

Thanks for sharing! It's really helpful to see that others are doing- I didn't have any examples to refer too

tinywitchfrogs

That sounds great ! the censorship on webtoon is so aggressive and I personally already follow plenty of comics on patron so I'm all for it ! very accessible

OR-69

Free tier. Then if anyone starts clutching their pearls you can say "But you *joined*! Didn't you read the ingredients before biting into it?" In the context of the disclaimer, you can reassure all the busy bodies that the intimate content is behind the paywall. Turns it all into a soft-sell oportunity.

Haselwoelfchen

I would really appreciate it if the pages were available here because I already use the Patreon app anyway

Plummers

Free tier that they have join sounds like a great idea

Akatilla

I think a free tier would be better because they will be forced to agree with Patreon’s Terms and Conditions. I’m sure once they start reading they will go for a paid tier anyway because it’s just amazing here, especially community wise. If censorship is still not allowed unless paid for. Maybe explain it to them so they know from the beginning. But still… free chapters is free chapters.

Jamie13

To expand on HoneyB's comment, can't you do a 0.01 cent tier so the scenes can be censored, just not so heavily to give the readers a bit more reading pleasure? (Totally up to you though) The free tier idea is great. I think it's a great one, but what is the lowest you can charge for a sub?

Marie Seyfarth

When you pull everything to patreon, it might be harder to grow the community. Ever heard about comicfury? They are there since forever. Many former smackjeeves artists are there. Maybe have a look at it?

Kakogene

I was thinking maybe offering new people who would be free members the chapter master post with nsfw scenes but for a price, like a certain amount of dollars to get the whole chapter with unedited sex scenes

AJ

I love this idea for you. I only read you here.

Spooks

I saw another creator doing this as well!

Kati de Jong

I think its a good idea, but please then link the previous and next episodes on each post. because patreon is awful to navigate imo.. your complete chapter links are great however <3

Dust Rust

Many authors/artists I follow are using a free-tiers or a « tip-jar tiers » (like 1$) so I bet you can go with it :)

ā™”ShutUpā˜†I'mReadingBLā™”

I honestly feel like the best idea I've seen so far is creating a website. That way, RUS would have a permanent home, and you'd have a more secure place for any future works as well. It may be an investment, depending on how confident you are with programming and coding yourself. If you need help, ask around the community; I know of a lot of artists who are doing it rn

Andrew

Free they have to join

You Are Appreciated

Hi Bittie, That sounds like a great idea! Also economically smart in the long run for you, since so many are on Patreon already in free tier it`s way easier to join/ less friction for anyone interested in trying out a paid tier. The reading experience on WEBTOON really isn’t the best! Ah Iā€˜m also for having ppl join the free tier to access the content.

Kaylynn Bousman

I think a free tier would work best because it’s free to join but it shows the genuine interest at the same time

Elle Wolf

I mean, I'm already connected through a 'free tier' but being able to read the comic here would be great too! I've been dealing with IRL stuff so much this past year that I got really behind in reading the webcomics I am following, which includes yours. :( So getting email updates would get me to look faster.

Alan Scott

One request: Right now, the patreon is "read ahead" of what you're posting to Tapas and webtoons. Don't try to replicate that with patreon, where you have comics sending out to different tiers at different times. Patreon has a real spam problem, we get notifications for tiers we aren't subscribed to and there's no way to send things to your free tier and not to your paid tier--so if you have a "read ahead" version and a "read later free" version on the same patreon, your paid members will get flooded with two different versions of the comic in their inboxes, which is confusing and annoying.

Malfuric

Have you considered your own website? It’s been a while, but buying a domain and having it hosted wasn’t super expensive in the past. You wouldn’t have to deal with any censorship on your own site.

Hadara Penaloza

Tapas is closing??? this is how I found out 😭

Foolish Traveler

I've already been a free member for a while so I think it's a great idea! The only thing I'm worried about with tapas shutting down is how I'm 3 weeks ahead because of ink. I really don't wanna wait 3 weeks for new content (ofc I will if I have to). Basically, what would the newest episode of R U Screwed be if you were to make a free tier? Would it be the latest free episode on tapas, or would it be the latest ink episode? (idk if I'm making sense...)

Normal Robot

This is a great idea! Not just for the purposes of making it easier for readers to access your content but also for converting to paid memberships. I know that's not your priority here but digital marketing is my day job, so immediately my first thought. Thanks for being the best, Bittie!

BK

Wait this is how I find out tapas is closing 😭

Ayadai

I'd also recommend comic fury. It's censorship free and is growing in leaps and bounds as Tapas authors jump the sinking ship.

Ms Ap3 Draws

YES!! I number one thought when Tapas announced closing was where are independent webcomic artists going to go? Webtoon is such a nightmare to navigate lately and its censorship policy is so whack and two faced. I think Patreon is the way to go šŸ‘šŸ‘

Audrey M

Wait, Tapas is shutting down? Why?

Winnie B

Yes...what she said!

Winnie B

Make a free tier, list content info...

Kennedy

I didn’t know Tapas is shutting down!! I have spent so much money there and have so many comics I still need to read!!!!!😭

Frog

Yes love this

Amanda

I’d do free tier you have to join. Make the comic how you want to make it and just let people make an informed choice.

alynna Hawthorn

hi I'm also subscribed to other free memberships that do have nudity that is censored. there's a censored with stickers or little drawings over them. but I think you could get away with just using a plain black square. the couple of free memberships I do follow that do show small forms of nudity never seem to get flack for male chest or female stomach regions. it's mainly just genitalia that patreon seems to have an issue with. so I do think you could get away with it by just using black squares if you are able to do that.