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My Hero Academia 5x23 - REACTION HIGHLIGHTS!! (Patreon)

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2021-09-28 19:01:01
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"Tenko Shimura: Origin"

Watch Along: https://vimeo.com/617159235/76e3e62062

Reaction Highlights Link: https://vimeo.com/617159546/3a5bd1815d

Episode Synopsis: Memories from Shigaraki's past as Tenko Shimura resurface as he confronts Re-Destro...

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LINKS TO ALL SEASONS: MY HERO ACADEMIA (Reaction Highlights Begin at 3x3)

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MHA 5x23 - Highlights [re-up]

This is "MHA 5x23 - Highlights [re-up]" by JBird on Vimeo, the home for high quality videos and the people who love them.

Comments

Hayden Smith

I was so excited to watch your reaction to this, but the highlights and watchalong won’t work for me:(( sads Edit: I went to the web browser and episodes 5x23 and 5x24 both watch along and reaction Videos say “Sorry. This Video Does Not Exist”

thereelrejects
>>147939197

See recent post! Thank you for reporting! I will be hunting down the vids and providing updates as I can. I expect to get the first batch done this weekend

Elle B.

They did a great job with this episode I think, it was as faithful to the manga as it could be with the time slot it airs at/censors it faces. Even the english dub for it was incredible. It made me cry like I did when I read it for the first time. I do recommend reading or taking a peek at the manga chapters 235 and 236 that this episode covers, just to see how brilliantly Horikoshi crafted it. I started really liking Shigaraki as a villain in S4, but this arc really elevated him for me. I love his character. And there’s so many parallels between baby izuku and baby tenko shown in this episode. It just goes to show how systemic abuse can be and how EASILY things like this can be avoided. And in regards to your comment about how well MHA shines with it’s darkest material, I agree 100% and I attribute that completely to Horikoshi since the anime is mostly a direct one-to-one adaptation. The way he handles these societal issues of discrimation, child neglect and abuse, mental health, is so well done. Btw the anime has one writer and one director whom I believe collaborate on what to adapt and how to adapt it.

Toasted Toad

I flat out LOVED this episode. You're right - they really are getting us invested in the villains. They're no longer cardboard cutouts. Okay, long comment (sorry!): While obviously the character stuff is so fascinating, I think the main first step that Horikoshi (thanks for the name, Elle!) took to making them 'real' was to show them now as a group that are actually fond of each other, who have developed a group identity, not just a bunch of disaffected individuals. As for Shigaraki's backstory, I thought that was so fascinating. From what AFO had previously said, I pictured some "accident" killing off his family - e.g. maybe he had been touching a couple of them and they crumbled, then maybe grabbing each of them for help and seeing them crumble too. But that's not what happened. He murdered them. Even his sister. While it might have been part accident, he was angry at her for betraying him. Nor is it as easy as saying "he was abused and neglected", because he wasn't badly abused. He grew up in a comfortable home, a loving family. His father was dominating, sure, but did not mistreat him aside from on one issue - He punished him for playing hero, passing on his own trauma. Izuku was humoured in his dreams of becoming a hero despite the fact that his mother knew there was no chance. Tenko was not, because his father was angry at heroes due to his own abandonment. A little therapy would have done them both (Tenko and his father) a lot of good. He hit him only once that we know of, because it looked like the family immediately said they would not stand for it. So it wasn't perfect but he was not deliberately abused and neglected. He was resentful out of proportion to what had been done to him. But proportion matters little to a 5(?) year old, who only understands that his dad gets angry at him when he plays hero. The big clue was his "allergies". It looked like he had no quirk because it had not manifested, but actually it was building in him, taking it out on his body. What I find really interesting is the question whether the quirk is independent of the person. Did he get such a destructive quirk because he was a psychopath, or did it turn him into one? As he says at the end, when he'd destroyed his family, he no longer itched.

Flubbedsquid

I love shigaraki cause his character is really a slow burn. Back in the earlier seasons, he was really just a brat with a scary power, but this arc sees him begin to transform into someone truly dangerous, not just in power level but mindset too. It's tragic how All for One manipulated him all the way from a scared child who killed his family mostly by accident, into a sociopathic misanthrope. Doing things like specifically instructing him to maintain a mental state anyone could see is unhealthy, all to grow his hatred and anger at society. AfO really built a pathway for Shigaraki to be his successor from the very beginning.

Loki Marcus
>>68735121

I liked some of what you said, but you got some critical parts very wrong. He did not intentionally kill his sister or his mother and grandparents. He explicitly states that even after his sister crumbled he still was in denial, thinking a villain was doing this. He only intentionally killed his father. Yes he had a lot of negative emotions towards his family but he didn't want to murder all of them. He killed his father out of rage in the moment after being hit, that was the turning point, and All For One took him off the streets and ensured that he would ferment in those emotions and ultimately gaslighted him into being a maniac. The point of his origin is to show how in a superhuman society shit like this can very easily happen. That's whats so scary about it, think about all the cases in universe there must be of quirks manifesting and accidentally killing people. Not only is that believable, but it makes Shigaraki's disdain for the society make total sense given his experience. He even told Deku in the mall that one time, we are all surrounded by people with quirks that could have the power to kill everyone, and no one is concerned.

Toasted Toad
>>68735121

I'm going by the manga, which is more equivocal. He starts off saying "oh, I thought it was a villain doing this", but then reflects at the end that maybe he did know all along. He wasn't just angry at his father - he was angry at all of them. We know of another case where a quirk manifested and accidentally killed a parent (Eri), and then she was taken and abused far worse than Shigaraki ever was. But she remained a wonderful little girl. AFO recognized the raw material in Shigaraki and, like you say, made sure he became a maniac. I agree with what you say, but Horikoshi did not make it as easy as saying that Shigaraki would have been good if not for being abused, accidentally killing his family and being found by AFO. He didn't kill his father in the moment of rage after being hit. He killed him later in the day after killing his dog, his sister, and various other relatives. Lots of people have domineering fathers but don't kill them in a fit of rage. SMALL SPOILER (becuase I can't remember whether it's been in the anime so far). After a short while, AFO lets Shigaraki out to kill a couple of guys who abused him on the street. Again, Shigaraki is itching desperately until he kills.

Loki Marcus
>>68735121

Im caught up on the manga so no worries about spoilers. How I interpreted him intentionally murdering his father was after he called out to his father in one last cry for help, his father hit him across the face with the lawn equipment( dont know what its called) and that was the turn. Might be wrong but thats how i thought the scene played out. I do agree that Shigaraki might have gone down the path of villainy to some degree regardless of the slaughter and AFO. But if also think that if he had recieved better care from his father, and if the quirk society was more aware of the possibilities of disastrous quirk manifestations, he could have been saved from going down that path. AFO even stated that he didn't want Shigaraki to get better and heal, he wanted him to stay in that awful mental state to turn him into a complete monster like him. Also as a side note, and something that could really change how the both of us perceives this moment, it's not entirely out of the realm of possibilities that AFO personally orchestrated all of that, even the very quirk Shigaraki has. Maybe thats an obvious theory, but still interesting.

Toasted Toad
>>68735121

Yes, the spoiler warning was for RR (just in case they are still reading!) not you as I presumed you were up to date. I felt Shigaraki was committed to killing his father before he hit him with the garden equipment (his father was just trying to fend him off). For sure AFO did everything he could to turn him into a monster, but I think he had the raw materials. What I find especially interesting is the nature of quirks. So many of them appear to suit the person they develop in. The explosive Bakugo, the fire and ice of Shoto, the lightness and sweetness of Uraraka, etc etc. Do they get quirks which shape their personalities? Do their personalities shape the quirks? If so, the development of the hugely destructive quirk of Shigaraka says a lot. It has no positive side (unlike Eri's).