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YG TREASURE BOX EP. 3 (Patreon)

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2020-10-26 18:57:00
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BaoziBang

About your Question. I was in a similar mindset as you. I sympathize of course but honestly? As bad and Borderline abusive as the Trainee Life is, it would be A LOT worse to debut someone without rigorous training. I don't want to imagine what would happen if they would debut Trainees that aren't ready. Korean Netizens are often merciless when Idols make "mistakes" or don't bring it enough. I think Trainee Life is similar to boot camp before you go to war (the war being Kpop). It's why I'm generally not the biggest fan of debuting idols that have less than 3 Years of Training if they are under 18. If you manage to withstand the Trainee Life for at least 3 Years or if you are old enough to have already some responsibility in your daily life the chance new Idols have to withstand Idol Life without bigger problems seems a lot higher. Also, I agree. It's not about Nationality. It's about the System and work ethic. I wouldn't call anyone an Idol that doesn't work within the set parameters. (I'm tired so my English is weird... Tell me if y'all want some clarity about some of the things I said!)

BaoziBang

BTW, I'm German and I have to say. I think Germans, especially Swabians like me are similar. We have incredibly strict standards and are very honest about our thoughts. It's probably why some of my non-German & non-asian friends think I'm rude. It's totally normal here that if my friends annoy me I will just tell them. Also, we also use formalities and different kinds of speaking for older people and teachers ec. It's why I think English is so refreshing. I can just call everyone "You" in German there are like 10 different ways to talk to people 😂

Coco Liu

Answer of your question: Personally, this doesn't seem too much. I group up in an asian household and although I may feel sad that he got scolded, it will motivate him to improve. Growing up it was normal for me to kneel on the stone ground when I made mistakes. When I did something wrong I would get hit in my hand by a clothing hanger. Asians feel that children will not learn if there are no consequences. If the trainees don't get yelled at or scolded at a mistake, then they would not learn. The more that mistake repeats it becomes a habit. Habits are hard to correct. Yes, it's humiliating to be called out, but when he practices he will remember the humiliation and strive to correct himself. Without this training trainees get, it would be so much harder in the industry. It's like "would you rather get scolded by your parents or people in society, such as your boss?" I don't know...this is just what I think.

claireisuche

I am west African and I basically felt nothing that way. He was wrong so he got scolded until he learnt. That's just teaching discipline, I didn't feel sympathy or empathy. I just hoped he wouldn't be discouraged from trying

rebecca

Just to clarify PD. Team Treasure isn't the final lineup, it's kind of like a temporary lineup so it can change after every assignment

jaehyun's dimples

Regarding your question about our views on that moment with Junghwan; I personally don't really think the criticism was too bad or uncalled for. I obviously felt really bad for Junghwan, but I think that the 'harsh' training these kpop idols undergo and the effort that is demanded from them is one of the things that make kpop 'kpop'. Like you said, it's why kaachi and groups like that don't make it; they simply don't undergo the same training and don't have those work ethics. I myself am non-Asian and from the Netherlands, and we definitely don't have the same work ethics and standards as Asians, but I still don't believe that the trainer was being too strict. Especially not considering the fact that this is a competition and Junghwan wants to be at the top. Sugarcoating things will never help you improve (and looking at Dutch talent shows, we are amazing at sugercoating bad performances so as not to make the person feel bad) and honesty is the key to improving - even if it might feel cruel and unfair at first. A lot of older kpop idols say it themselves; they might have had a lot of negativity thrown at them when they were still trainees, but it was only to help them improve.

Emily

Everytime I watch this show I get so emotional😭

Legacy

Yeah i'm Nigerian but left Nigeria when I was 3 and was raised in the UK and this was nothing to me. I didn't even notice till you paused it. My parents were incredibly strict because of culture (when I say strict I mean I got beaten with belts and sticks for doing things wrong) and also they are very religious and also Pastors of a church. Even with all that I don't see my upbringing as abusive in that sense. The only abusive aspects of my upbringing i'd say have more to do with restrictions on who I am and can be due to culture and religion e.g. as a woman or gay. When it comes to discipline and scolding though I feel better for it. I don't know if thats wrapped though lol. I also think it only worked well on me because i'm me. My brothers experience beatings etc scarred him also because he's dyslexic and Nigerians see that as a serious flaw for some reason he was also verbally abused and never understood by my father. causing him emotional issues. So in summary i think the method you choose to use as discipline should measure up to the child/student you have. To most western eyes though this is really mean, more because he cried, his response to it would set them off. IMO. Love Ya PD ;)

kelly

Team Treasure isn't the FINAL final lineup for treasure as you probably assumed; trainees all compete for a position in the team by going against a certain member in Team Treasure as the competition goes on. You'll see in ep 4 that team treasure has an advantage because they're the ones who get to sing the signal song.

kelly

To answer your question about Junghwan, I agree with you that I think the trainer was not going overboard but actually motivating Junghwan to sing better for the performance. Since he is so young, it did make me feel bad for him but I think the trainer's words really helped him grow as an artist and push himself further to do well. Honestly, the kpop industry is very abusive and controlling and I feel like the rights of idols are very limited. However, it's expected that the idols know what they're getting themselves into before debuting as an official idol. The kpop industry is very different from western industry in that sense that the work ethics are very harsh and more challenging for kpop idols.

kelly

Also, I wanted to let you know something about this show and Seunghun, the guy you really liked in Team A. He is one of the most talented people on that show in my opinion; he always stood out to me and his voice is so soft but powerful. However, you'll see how YG tends to overlook his abilities and talent– Seunghun is not his favorite trainee and he makes that known. Seunghun knows that as well, he says that he's never been complimented by YG before till later on in the show. It's obvious YG's favorite is Haruto at the moment. To me, Seunghun really had the potential to make it in that Energetic performance, but YG thought otherwise.

kelly

I've seen lots of people who are fans of Seunghun (and Byounggon, the other rapper in Team A) refuse to watch YGTB because of the fact that they are always being overlooked by YG, even though they are the oldest trainees there.

Inoue

Dont want to spoil it or smth but yeah.. actually apart from the guys who debuted only two C boys are remaining as YG trainees atm. (Junhyuk is studying in Canada - dunno what that means for his future as a rapper)

kristel

I don't think the vocal coach was abusive/too harsh to Junghwan. He was lecturing him whilst not being mean or offensive. There definitely are cases when the vocal/dance teachers are being too harsh on the kids/borderline abusive, but what we saw on camera here is not that case. I also don't think Junghwan cried because the teacher was too harsh on him, but because he was frustrated with himself for not being able to do it well, and also embarrassed. This is not abusive, even if we have never been trainees, I think we have all experienced this in one way or another at different points in our lives. Whether that is in school, at our work, or just in life in general. For reference, I am half Asian, half Swedish but I grew up in Sweden and around pretty much only Swedish people except for my mother, but as a kid I definitely neglected the Asian part of me because of all the Western influences in my life.

kyudays

dont want to spoil but just gonna say treasure box makes you want to rip your hair out.... thats all im gonna say.

Anonymous

I'm not sure if you already know but Seunghun (the blonde vocalist you pointed out in Team A) and Byounggon (the other rapper in Team A) are from CIX you reacted to them before

Elena_Echo

To answer your question: as a kid who grew up doing some what professional theater (while not the same but very similar) I grew up with the ideas of if you don't have the work ethic you aren't gonna make it. While I love Junghwan and think he is talented, he wasn't getting it right and the teacher rightfully made him fix it. I personally wouldn't even call it scolding, it was just the truth. When you become an actor, especially a musical theatre actor, while you can do songs in your own way to an extent most of the time you have to be on pitch hitting all of the same notes that is written in the song. That's just the way it is. You don't do things the way the director wants or needs you to do you can consider yourself out of a job. That what the trainee period is for me in my head, it's rehearsal. You practice, work out the problems, fix them, perform, get notes, do it all over again. Once you debut that's opening night. But you can't make it to opening night if you don't fix the problems. I grew up with two parents both in the theater/entertainment industry and they didn't sugar coat anything. You have to be able to learn and adapt otherwise you aren't gonna make it. I know I kinda went off on a rant but my point still stands. In my head that teacher wasn't being harsh and compared to some teachers I've had was even being pretty decent about the whole thing. Idk that's just my take on it as a kid who has kinda been in situations like that when yeah it makes you feel bad but you have to get back and do better otherwise you just won't make the cut.

Dianne

Regarding the Junghwan part, I personally feel lke it's fine as long as it's completely constructive criticism. When they debut, they'll hear and see harsher criticisms. I believe that an idol needs a strong mentality in order to survive the world of kpop. It is what it is.

mina

watching this again made me realise all the emotional stress us fans went through watching this survival program for the first time....till this day every time i think about it i still get pissed off lol

kelly

when is ep 4 reaction going to drop?

Ena

The thing you were talking about with the borderline abusiveness in trainee life, it's kind of a hard thing to understand. Like on one hand I understand when people get pissed about the poor treatment, but at the same time literally all idols who have debuted talk about how even though training was hell, they wouldn't be at the level of success they are at if they didn't go through those hardships. Again, maybe it's because I'm also asian, not east asian but south asian, but I think trainee life is hard for a reason and you literally sign up for this. For example, NCT taeyong was supposedly terrible at dance to the point where his teachers said he had no hope in improving but now he's considered the literal top dancer(or one of them) in nct. This shows that training is the way it is for a reason and that's because it works.

Sham Sham

i remember being so happy how Byounggon (tall beanie guy) and seunghun (the guy who looks like dean and sometimes sounds like him) left yg after this and r now in C.I.X

Anonymous

Its tough but if you also think about it from a companies point of view, they are spending money on the training of these hopeful debutantes. You bet imma make sure i get the best of the best out of them. The only difference is with my up bringing is we were struck...but hey, that was 20yrs ago...so this is nothing..

Izak
>>46580595

ikr, it was horrific, it was painful to watch, especially the midam bit because the way they acted it very much seemed like everyone was aware he was struggling and that he ran away to see his family for a reason that they didn't fully show and it was so upsettingr , this episode was the start of a downwards spiral for this show oof

Izak

i'm obviously 2 months late but the midam situation gets me every time and the reason was because it feels like parts were missing, like it felt suspicious, the way he was speaking and the way he cried felt like it was more than just" this is hard for me", it was like he'd been overtly struggling with a lot for a while and that the company knew but didn't do much to help, because why would the security guard just so happen to check his room unless they were aware that he wasn't in a good place. ( that was what people questioned) it was worse when it first aired cause there was this collective concern from everyone about whether he was going to be ok because after seeing him breakdown like that, having him drop off the face of the earth, not knowing wether he was ok was really scary, eventually he made an instagram and he i think said he was doing better but what made people question fr what happen was that he didn't like stop/pause music or anything like at all, he carried on and found a new place to do it which kind of suggested it was yg itself that was the problem and not the trainee life in general, this was kind of more evident for people later on when others seemed to leave yg for similar reasoning and then popped up in different places clearly much much happier and so the whole counselling thing they claimed they were doing that they showed with Junkyu felt like a rather than counselling it was just for show and as u said with when they told that other trainee to leave it felt manipulative, like it didn't seem like the company itself actually cared at all about the mental state of any of them

Angie

i get happy when people compliment my baby yeongue :) he should've been in treasure and replaced yoonbin when he left.

Angie

I think certain moments in here are fine and not abusive, but there are some other times in treasure box or in shows like no mercy, iland, sixteen and other shows that are ridiculous and abusive.And I felt like Midam was depressed...i felt very bad for him. I think he was hanging on for the members and hoping maybe debut will make him feel better, but it was clear he wouldn't have been happy.

Claire B

for me what happen in this scene in particular is not particularly abusive but seems rather useless... He make the kid doing it like 10 times and he is not improving at all I don't think that making him do it an 11th time with the same teaching method is going to help him improve. I feel like the teacher could have found another way of explaining and showing the kid to actually have results. Its more the method that is bothering me than the fact that he makes him work hard