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Subject Agency Assignment Week 3 (Patreon)

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2024-09-16 19:00:07
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Your third Subject Agency Assignment is:

One common misconception about hypnosis is that it is mind control in which a powerful hypnotist overpowers a subject's will and forces them to behave in ways that they cannot resist. This is also a powerful fantasy that has led people to exploring recreational or erotic hypnosis. And of course hypnosis can, and often does, feel as if your mind is being taken over by your hypnotist in a way that you cannot resist! Your assignment for Week 3 is to answer the following questions:

1. What does the concept of "resistance" in regards to hypnosis mean to you?

2. Are "hypnosis is not mind control" and "hypnosis feels like mind control" conflicting statements? Why or why not?

3. Give an example of how a hypnotist might make an encounter feel like mind control, (from personal experience, if you have one.)

4. Bonus: Choose and listen to one of my files from the "Accept, Reject, Adjust" Collection that you think might fall into the category from Question 3 and record your impressions, sharing publicly if you are comfortable with that.

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Mark

(1) I don't really think in terms of resistance. A subject can be resistant if they over think suggestions, ie their critical faculties are engaged, ... because that is what the hypnotist is trying to bypass. And the good habit of "reflective thinking" lets us all have a second shot at using our critical faculties - so amnesia can help prevent this, in the hypnosis context. (2) Litteral answer: "is" != "feels like". But... we are only "adults of sound mind" when everything is engaged and working, and hypnosis removes one of more of these "sound mind" mental capabilities. And it is possible to impose a phobia on someone. Or for a lover to be anchored to a song, such that we are triggered with longing for them, when we hear it. These are all examples of a level of real "mind control". And if you give someone a limiting belief that they can't do a thing, and as a result, they never try to do it, ... then you have actually prevented them from doing it. ... And going even deeper - from personal experience, it seems like the hypnotist can convince a "part" of the subjects mind to "play along and not let the rest of their mind know". And you could look at that as "not really mind control", but if the majority of their "parts" are frustrated by the subsequent post-hypnotic-suggestions, then I think it is also valid to think of that as mind control, albeit with limitations. (3) Personal examples: (a) "No more touching your cock until tomorrows video." These were "edging but no cumming" videos. I was very very surprised the first thing next morning when I indeed couldn't touch my cock. After several days of this, it is the most frustrated I have ever been. I eventually wiggled out of it by waiting until the next video told me to touch - and then hitting pause, at which point I could do whatever I wanted. Sufficiently interesting that i looped it for another week, but after choosing to loop it for a 3rd week, I noticed "I was bored of it now", and the effect evaporated. (Or were those two things vice-versa?) (b) A similar one, where I wanted to test this effect further. File 1 was "no touching until you get the passcode", and file 2 was just a passcode, and cost $10. My specific goal and intent was to wiggle out of the suggestion without having to pay for the passcode file, ... and I was unable to do so. ...And the boundary is *very* grey: "Don't think about a pink elephant." is a well known example. But consider sentances like this: "You might find it easy to imagine a version of yourself, in some alternate time-line, who really enjoys XXX, ... and I don't know how specifically they enjoy it, because I don't know their mind as well as you do know your mind, ... but I bet you could, if you wanted, imagine how specifically that version of yourself, would enjoy XXX". Literally the only way of thinking about the above, is for the listener to grow or strengthen neural connections, linking whatever "XXX" is, with themselves enjoying it. (4) I'm not at all clear which files are in your "Accept, Reject, Adjust" Collection - how is this listed/defined?

LeeAllure
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Note from Noelle re: the "Accept, Reject, Adjust" Collection - if you are on the main page of this patreon and scroll up to the top, under the header there is a series of tabs you can click on. One of those tabs is "Collections". When you click on it, one of the first available collections should be "Accept Reject Adjust".

AnalyticalPuppet

1. Resistance can be a lot of things, but I believe all forms of resistance fall under the umbrella of the following definition: behaviors that do not provide a path forward in the direction of the hypnotist. Importantly, this leaves room for a subject to do things that are not perfectly aligned with a hypnotist's will, as long as those behaviors still trend in the same direction the hypnotist is going. I say this is important, because a subject may need to make changes or may process suggestions in ways that do not perfectly align with their hypnotist's will, in order to enhance the hypnotic experience or even in order to avoid popping out should a hypnotist suggest something in a way the subject could not be okay with. The definition above distinguishes between deviations that undermine the hypnotist's direction/will from those that facilitate the hypnotic experience. 2. These statements are not at all in conflict. Mind control envelops any and all practices that impose external uniformity on the mind. The idea being that mind control only allows the victim to think and feel as the mind controller designs. Hypnosis does not encompass all of mind control, and so it is not mind control in the sense that the two terms do not equal one another. At best hypnosis could be a form of mind control, which allows for hypnosis to feel like mind control - because it is a form of mind control in this case - without hypnosis being synonymous with mind control. It's also worth keeping in mind that hypnosis as a process - whatever that process may be - is perhaps too imprecise in the level of control it affords to be considered mind control. If it were not, hypnotists would be able to exert absolute control regardless of rapport or time spent learning how the subject's mind works. That rapport and knowledge of a subject's mind - not to mention a subject's expectations - can alter the precision and power of one's control suggests that hypnosis feels like mind control, and perhaps becomes mind control, only when other factors are also true. 3. Gaslighting is often a very effective way of making someone feel as though their hypnotic experience is mind control. By using confusion or amnesia to cause a subject to lose track of their own motivations and beliefs, it is possible to make them adopt memories of them holding new motivations and beliefs. They not only believe their thoughts followed the path you have laid out, they also carry those thoughts onward in the direction that you intended for them, which makes it feel like they never had a moment where their thoughts were not under your control.