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Video: Quick Start Gaiden Ep. 3: A Two For One Deal (Patreon)

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2024-09-14 03:44:18
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2026-06
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This is one of those cases where I saw the thing on the shelf at the store, and by the next day I had a video shot because it was just so compelling. I was going to give it the "cute but incredibly bad and pointless" medal but it actually deserves much better. This thing is just... good, actually.

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Quick Start Gaiden Ep 3: A Two For One Deal [MSI MEGA]

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Loonie Lummox

Oooo with a description like that how could I not watch it immediately?

t

enjoying the start of a sticker wall

t

I wonder if the limitations on bitrate be some sort of licensing/codec or more in the hardware. I can imagine some checklist of features and this "yes technically audio gets in" checks that box without mp3 or higher quality audio. Another thought was RIAA fear, but that feels like a stretch. Does the xp sound manager show the sample rate of the audio device? I was just about to ask what it shows up as in the device manager but you just talked about it in video..

cathoderaydude

It's just whatever came up on the dial. I couldn't even hear it :p

Drew Hoffman

Your CPU is actually either an Athlon XP 2100+ or 2400+, and it's being detected wrong because the BIOS defaults to 100 FSB not 133. Don't know why, maybe there is 1 gotcha jumper not mentioned in the quick start guide like there was on my Shuttle. Also the MSI custom chip is the "CoreCell" System Management Controller and it does things like fan speed control and tempersture / voltage monitoring. (Also known to fail and make boards unusable.) I have seen BIOS features that hook the USB keyboard support to play & pause audio CDs even in DOS, and "ASUS Music Alarm" can turn the PC on and play a CD as an alarm.

cathoderaydude

You know, I looked at the chip in post and I was like, well, I don't see 1500 on there, but maybe these model numbers are weird. It had not seemed possible to me that the BIOS would misreport like that; It doesn't actually read a string out of the chip? It just guesses based on the speed?

Iceron Ranga

As a nerd that does turn of his PC every day at least once. It is because electricity in Europe is expensive.

Drew Hoffman

I think it guesses based on the multiplier and bus speed but who knows. My AXP 2000+ was detected as an Athlon Classic 1.25 which doesn't exist.

Ian

I accidentally ran my socket A CPU underclocked and misidentified in the BIOS for years due to an incorrectly set jumper on the motherboard.

Kerne

Nerds like us obviously weren't the target demographic, but I still wonder who was. A bookshelf hifi doesn't seem like a useful place for a computer, and a CD player/radio seems like a redundant addon for a desktop PC, if someone had previously purchased just about any piece of inexpensive audio equipment. I remember Shuttle PCs well, but I don't recall seeing any like this.

awakeonlan

Paired with a little TV, this would have been an awesome dorm room setup! PC, stereo, and no need for an Xbox, all in one economical little package. If you had a TV with a builtin DVD player/VCR you could watch movies, too, all with just two devices! Or I wonder if swapping that CD drive out for a DVD drive would confuse the bluebird chip.

cathoderaydude

Pretty sure I put a DVD burner in there! ATAPI is ATAPI, the CD play commands are universal.

DeScruff

I could actually imagine this being used as someone's workshop PC, where shelfspace is a premium, and it probably won't be on 24/7. Sometimes you will just want a CD Player/Radio.

PrincessChooChoo

One thought about the low bitrate was like, what if it's really simple and just records to memory and then writes it out when you stop? The low bitrate could be a last minute hack to avoid it running out of memory too fast? idk if that makes any sense, but it's all I could think.

Torbjörn Lindgren

I'm reading the code as AXDA2100DUT3C which makes it an Athlon XP 2100+ Thoroughbred (130nm). One of... five different 2100+ (because of course!). That would make it a 1733MHz CPU with 133MHz FSB. The MSI manual shows two FSB related jumpers, one looks OK but I can't read the text around the other so can't tell if it's in "user mode" (133/166 FSB) or "safe mode" (100 MHz), might be why the BIOS is confused by the CPU model. From what I remember AMD didn't want to pay the extra cost to customize each CPU core after grading (they didn't know what it'll end up as until after testing) - this why people were able to overclock many Athlons by changing the locked multiplier by messing with the resistors around the silicone die. Intel instead put those same resistor inside their silicone core and cut the appropriate resistors away using laser engraving after grading them to make it harder to "hack" their locked chips.

Carl Seiler

Am I reading that readme file right, were those updates from Roger Tsai dated 03/08/21 ?! It’s as if they were still working on this software until recently. 😮

Carl Seiler

Oh, that clearly is not a year. I think is to be read 2003-08-21. As later the date is 03/08/26.

c

“The volume knob does odd things” is the next idea for a shirt.

Jeff Brooks

Hi there, apologies if this has been asked previously, but is there a copy of the Idling song you’ve posted online. It’s been living rent free in my head for months and I’d love to hear the end. Have a great summer!