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Video: (final) Linear Editing (Patreon)

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2025-02-08 17:35:54
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2026-06
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This should be the final version of the linear editing video, so feel free to leave YouTube comments. Thank you to everyone I have not replied to yet on Patreon, all of your feedback on the other post made me finally feel confident about my work, I wasn't sure I'd managed to make it either correct or entertaining until then. If I somehow haven't been clear: I couldn't do this without you all.

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Linear Editing RC2

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Comments

adorfer

I now mastered your video editing class twice. Do you issue diplomas ;-)

ColColonCleaner

I love that you still called Vegas Pro 'Sony Vegas' for continuity. The community around that NLE gets a little bent out of shape when people do that after the IP was sold to MAGIX in 2016. I'm not sure why that sale happened, but remember seeing a lot of wasted breath on forums about the name of the software when I was looking for solutions to problems. Excellent video as always!

cathoderaydude

Oh wow lol This is the first I've heard of it, I was in no way doing a bit. I have never so much as opened Sony Vegas. Also I will continue to be calling it Sony Vegas

Dpunkt

I had a Cannon Hi8 Camcorder which also offered such funtionality in a very basic form, you had to create a in/out list of the footage you want to use and it would create a "finished" VHS. It worked as the source drive (with the previously captured footage) and controlled a VCR via Infrared to record the result. Seeing the professional version of this is awsome. Also I would like to ask for more closeups of all the fancy buttons and displays in front of you for the future. I mean, the video is 1,5h long and the interesting devices (Remote and the actual Tape Drives) are only in closeup for 5 minutes or so. PS: Switching the Sides of the Player/Recorder overlays confused me for quite some time, even though you mention it...

adorfer

Please release the "foursome video" without any further explanations on your main channel. i would love to see the reactions.

adorfer

as a nitpick: mixtaping 2 musicasette players from headphone to mic jacks would have most likely resulted in quite distorted audio. (some decks were aware of their users and made autogain/leveling even work with 700mV or even 2000mV instead of 1mV signals from regular dynamic mics.)

t3hbeowulf

Wow. See, that is much more sophisticated than my first experience with editing in high school. Similar results though. I had one of those 5 minute tapes, an average consumer VCR that at least had a stable pause feature, a VHS-C camcorder as the "master" and a PC with a TV output card. * I used the VCR in record+pause mode * I had the camcorder connected into the computer through a TV tuner (ATI Rage Pro Turbo All-in-wonder card) * I used PowerPoint for onscreen graphics and since the video input was chroma-keyed into a pink color, I could play video under the word-art in PowerPoint. I used this "setup" to edit together a class project for English class around 1997. Pause/Play on the camcorder and Pause/Record on the VCR and careful timing in PowerPoint. I was invited to join the Video Club after I turned that project in and I got to see decks similar to what you featured in this tutorial/documentary. What a great show!

Chas Becht

Incidentally, some camcorders could do in-camera assemble and insert edits. So you could insert b -roll or voice overs straight onto the original tape. It sucked.

cathoderaydude

The reason I didn't get closer on the decks is because they aren't the actual subject of the video, they could be interchanged with anything and still do the job. I do want to make a video which focuses more on this equipment, but this one is about the process, not the gear. The only reason I introduced the gear at all was to establish a baseline, so that the viewer understands the general tenor of what I'm doing. It's kind of a delicate balance when making a video that is about a specific topic, but which depends on several things that are topics in themselves, figuring out how much to address and how much to hand wave is very much a complicated part of the writing process and there were definitely earlier drafts of the script where I focused more on the equipment, until I realized that it was interfering with the flow.

Dpunkt

Thank you for your explanation, that makes sense. Your Introduction of the gear is sufficient for the video. This just sparks a case of curiosity on gear which I had never had in hand...

Loading_M_

Looking at the "Foursome", I have a guess why it splits. You point out that you could use it without the head, colt might have expected that you could use it without the base, by just plugging it into the wall. Additionally, this type of thing is super common nowadays - I suspect the mold for the base piece has a swappable insert for the logo, so the base design and mold could be shared between multiple products.

Fabrizio Oldrini

I begun editing videos on umatic around 1984 up to 1994, when I quitted my job in a local tv station. I used mainly sony stuff. I remember doing video insert and while it was going on, pressing the audio insert button to change the audio on the fly by hand, since the controller was not a so sophisticated one. Great time...😀

Jeffrey

Maybe a dumb question, but could you “burn” two masters prior to clearing the timecodes and switching to b roll insertion? Theoretically this would eliminate the generation loss mentioned around one hour and 22 minutes, and give you a backup to switch to if you flubbed an insert. Could this have been something that engineers did back in the day? Edit: I forgot that it would add time to the process that may not have been acceptable in some workflows… and it would cost an additional expensive tape. I guess those factors could have weighed on the decision of the editor in the 90s.

cathoderaydude

I imagine in practice that was quite common, though it only gets you two chances to mess up, then you're right back in the same boat. In other words, the comparison to digital workflows doesn't really change - on a computer you have unlimited tries, but on physical media there's always going to be much stronger incentives to get it right the first time.

Vessue

Has magix done anything of substance with the program since buying it lol

Alan Hensley

Hey Gravis I just wanna say I really enjoyed this one.😄 Had a lot of "press lovely button, hear a beige box go ka-thunk in the corner" type content which is one of the best types out there imo. Thanks for making it!

Xaviette Katzenfrau

At the start you reiterate, as you've done many times across your channel, that you don't know everything there is to know, and are liable to make mistakes or oversights. I do love that you don't present yourself as an infallible authority, as any YouTuber who doesn't clarify their knowledge level kinda implicitly does. But that also made me think about all the wonderful and insightful comments you've gotten over the years that add interesting information or context you might've missed simply because you Weren't There, and while those comments are generally easy to find in the Top Liked, a small video series that's like, "Addendums" or "Appendices" that go over interesting context added after a video went up, that's not enough to justify a whole separate video, but you bundle a bunch of them up into one slightly more justifiable video that can tie up loose ends and share those interesting comments with a wider audience and document them more permanently for the CRD Blu-Ray Box Set (rel. 2032) Don't know if something like that would be best suited for the main or side channel, or if that idea sounds like it would be far too complicated to add in to all the /other/ video ideas you have queued up, I'd understand of course haha

Evan Grove

These videos are worth the wait every time. CRD confirmed SRT enjoyer. I'm not sure how you can get more goated Gravis

Ben Golus

Most videos - *Gravis wears cute, humorous, or retro tech t-shirt* Some videos - *Gravis wears solid color t-shirt, sometimes with a button over it* This video - *Gravis confuses non-PNW viewers with Japanese grocery store t-shirt*

Ben

I use a jog-wheel control whenever I do music production; specifically I use an iCon QCon Pro G2 and there is a small cluster of controls you'd be immediately familiar with from these Linear Editors (Play, Stop, Record, FF, RW) plus extra controls to navigate different audio tracks. You can even set mark points and loop between them. The wheel is endless but it's stepped since one click = one bar of music. Since I don't work with video I don't use SMPTE; instead I use the MIDI Beat Clock that reports in Bars:Beats:Ticks using SPP (Song Position Pointer). Unlike video editing, these control surfaces are so feature-rich that you don't have to use the mouse or even look at a monitor for the majority of your workflow. It's awkward at first but after some practice you can jog around and lay down new MIDI tracks pretty darn efficiently. Maybe that could be a topic to cover one day: MIDI. I have both pre- and post-MIDI devices in my home studio and its amazing how nothing has changed since 1983 when it was introduced (because it literally hasn't changed).

Asaf Sagi

What wheel are you using?

Asaf Sagi

They get antsy even if you simply neglect to mention Vegas! I've found that is mostly music-people who use Vegas, whereas you'd be pressed to find any video people using it. At least where I live

Ben

I say it in the first sentence, mate. iCon QCon Pro G2.

Ben Golus

North West, specifically Pacific North West, I missed typing a letter. It's a small (4 store) chain around the Seattle area, and one in Oregon.

Dante Blando

PNW: Pacific Northwest. The full region is all of Oregon and Washington states, along with the northern third of California. In practice, it often means the coastline from Seattle to Portland.