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(Chihaya figurine @ Grand Place, Brussels)

Hello - apologies again for the surprise post last night and I (Aster) believe I am ready to provide an update now. Saver and I got in touch today and he made a new post on X. So as of now we are here to stay.

Looking back, I feel this hard stop was somewhat unavoidable in light of the recent circumstances. Preparing for and manning our August Comiket 107 was a very heavy toll (including working with a printing office and the event organizers) and, especially since I am a plain businessperson not in the trade of art and have just some evenings and maybe half a weekend to work on Patreon, I fell significantly behind in planning and managing our publications. Same with Saver who has other professional art projects and who needed to fly back and forth between Tokyo/Seoul. To add, last week I was on a business trip in Europe (where Chihaya is in this pic) and I must say our mutual communication has further deteriorated. Then it happened.

So Saver created an ad hoc Pixiv Fanbox account to sort of disfranchise from this Patreon site - and while this act was most likely impulsive, I believe a Fanbox is a simple, adaptable platform for Saver to post his independently crafted art outside the Savaster name. In the meantime, this site could continue to host the longer, more series artwork and manga, to be posted on a periodic but maybe on a less frequent basis than over the past decade. We might need to realign our features and tiers on Patreon accordingly.

So, with all that said, Saver will be back - but he needs a break first. So I do appreciate if you could hang in there and give us some time to see how the rest of the adventure tales will unfold. What shall we do in the meantime? Not sure yet, but I'm confident that the wait will be worth your time.

And thanks for those who reached out or responded to me and helped break the sudden stalemate. Many thanks and we owe you very much.

ASTER

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Didrik Svahn

Ok so I will list things that this post made me think of. 1. You talked about having troubles with preparing and organizing. When it comes to the trade of art. So do you need some volunteers to help you out? So that you don’t get stress and take it out on Saver or someone else, regarding your frustration. 2. As Saver will now have his own thing on fanbox, how will be the posting work over here then? As I understand that it might be slower but maybe you could be more consistent with follow ups? Seeing how often in the series there has been a big cliffhanger and then several months of wait between the follow up for a short period of time. Like is that going to become worse or will there exist a better structure and planning regarding it all? 3. Yeah maybe the tiers and features on Patreon need to be realign. As the tiers have been the same for almost 10 years. Plus that Saver’s new fanbox is more expensive if you want all the stuff. Compared to here which seemed a bit odd when I thought about it. But above all I hope that the situation will resolve itself. And that we will have many new stories about Five minutes summer. So that both you and Saver could explore that setting more with the various ideas and plot points that you had in mind. Which has also been hinted at for quite some time

Nathan Sample

To start, so sorry to hear about what happened between you and Saver - I'm sure it doesn't feel too good. I had work yesterday and was unaware of any of this until I logged in just now. While that situation is quite unfortunate, I am at least glad this Patreon is still around for the time being, even if it will look and function a little different going forward. Here's hoping things stabilize sooner rather than later and I look forward what happens on here next.

savaster

To Didrik: 1 - Thank you for suggestion - outsourcing is an option that we could consider if we want to continue participating in the Comikets. We will see if we get into C109 (December) event sometime in October, so I will keep that in mind. 2 - I understand that fully. And I guess one big factor in putting a series on a hold is digression - wanting to do something else even while a series is ongoing. Or trying to fill a posting vacuum when there is no bandwidth for larger projects but some for smaller ones. So if things go well, the series posts could become more routine with shorter gaps in between. 3 - i do note that over at Saver’s new Fanbox the pricing of the tiers are not comparable with what are over here. But that’s Saver’s decision and I will leave it up to him. You can also maybe observe there what “pure Saver” creative content is without my intervention, because the characters and the stories here are scripted by me (although lisenke or Titan finds inconsistencies all the time - hehe) In terms of storytelling, we would hopefully like to get to the third arc of stories of Saki (her mother’s side). And also feel free to chime in as to what you would like to see there as it is still fluid and inputs are always welcome.

savaster

To Nathan: Thank you for your longtime support and kind words. I think what I appreciate about Patreon is there are multiple ways to interact with the patrons and also the patrons base is top tier - no one making disruptive comments or requests, which could very much harm your experience here as a patron. And yes you may see changes here but I am hoping that they will be tor the better in the long run. Your references to music has always been very inspiring for us, so I am hoping to see more of that in the future.

Titan1017

Firstly, I find it funny that you note me as one of two people who often find inconsistencies in the stories. My intention is to ask questions as a sort of feedback to give you ideas on where to steer the story; as a writer, I have a good sense of what things are narratively satisfying versus not. I’m trying to enhance the experience, never detract. Secondly, I want to note my personal frustration. After the end of Apnea Girl Versus Girl, I expected further developments between the cousins and Saki, but have so far been disappointed by Tiger Lily. There’s a lot of things being set up, but I’m here generally for the underwater stories, and it is frustrating that it feels like the story has been spinning its wheels in place for years. So I do believe that more frequent story relevant posts are at least somewhat necessary, as that will allow you to explore the important side stories (like TomoSaki) in the downtime, rather than having a bunch of dead space. My reasoning for rewriting Apnea Girl Meets Girl was to give you a push in that direction, allowing you to focus on the visuals rather than also having to craft the narrative again. All this is to say that a realignment is probably necessary, and a good step besides. Understand this is not a criticism, but rather a want of what to see going forward. I’ve stuck around for this long because I figure it would be easier to ask for the things I want to see from the stories from within the community as opposed to abandoning it entirely. It’s why I was heavily critical of the decision to have Tomokazu join the cast as a “girl”. You’re one of the best at underwater narratives, and that’s the thing I’m here for. Thank you for the update, and I will continue pointing out inconsistencies and asking for the things I wish to see from the narratives, but will probably enjoy whatever you craft regardless.

thekill

im just happy both of your are doing better, and managedto talk again <3 ! look after each other and take good care of you both together ! >:3c

savaster

Thanks, and I do agree Tiger Lily has been an anthology made up of multiple stories thrown together and not too pertinent with the main plot. That was meant to give each of the characters more room to develop and possibly let them have a story of their own at one point or another ("FMS Universe," sort of speak). This happens in real life as well, as the world is not just one unraveling plot but is a vast web of multiple lives intersecting and intertwining at the same time. And I love anthology films (incl. classics like "Dreams" by Akira Kurosawa and "Memories" by Katsuhiro Otomo (the latter is the creator of Akira). That said, please allow us some time until the sister and the brother start playing the main theme, The next series will likely be called "Saki's Passion" or simply "The Passion." :-) And why so harsh about Tomo temporarily appearing as a girl, and for a sound reason? Ambiguity of gender is also a classical literal theme, starting with "The Changelings" (とりかへばや物語: late 12th century).

Titan1017

I was critical of Tomo appearing as a girl for several reasons, which I had laid out at the time. I believed that as an addition to the cast, he was never going to outshine his sister, so his identity had to be separate from her. It couldn’t just be another “girl with a very long breathhold due to lineage and talent”. Instead, he could be the boy who did his best to accomplish the things his sister did in a female dominated area due to hard work and perseverance. The more basic reason, though, was because I wanted to see an underwater boy, especially one under the tutelage of a titular shrine maiden. I had also expressed at the time the multiple ways of writing the story so that he could continue to appear, but as a boy, and not pretending to be something he’s not. And I understand the point of Tiger Lily, I was merely expressing how it felt a bit aimless. Good to know there are future plans with Tomo and Saki, I look forward to that, as well as a return to Chihaya’s match with Jun. Regarding Tomo, I would be more than happy to relate some of the ideas I had about how he could best be utilized again. Let me know if that’s something you’d like. Regardless, I continue to enjoy your stories, so I wish to continue asking for things I want to see. You don’t have to follow all of them, but I put them out there as a fan first, and a writer second.