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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting 

"Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which a person or a group covertly sows seeds of doubt in a targeted individual, making them question their own memory, perception, or judgement, often evoking in them cognitive dissonance and other changes such as low self-esteem."

This post is meant for my followers and potential followers.

All of these trolls were replying on public Patreon posts so this is publicly available information.  Do not interact with people in these posts.  Do not harass them and do not engage in direct fighting.  They are here to troll.

I think at this point I have to address this.

What this post is meant to is to show to my supporters that this is a 100% Gaslighting/Troll Brigade.  They're essentially Doomsaying and trying to convince as many people as they can that their falsehoods and hyperbole are truth.  They are here to try and make you jump at shadows and run from boogeymen that don't exist.

Their arguments seem to come down to two points, Netorare and Mel.

NTR or Netorare is typically referred to when the object of the protagonists affection is taken from them.

In regards to my game, I've seen people define it almost every which way:

-NTR is when Jake doesn't get 100% of the girls(emotionally/physically) and a harem.

-NTR exists but only because of player choice.

-NTR doesn't exist because Jake, as a character, is never having anyone stolen from him.

Personally, I think NTR's existence within my game is actually a gray area.  A lot of the times it depends on how you choose to perceive things.  Body Swapping also throws a large wrench into what qualifies as  NTR.  That's why I don't deny that it's in my game.  I have no problem with saying it exists in my game or being tagged as such.

What I do have a problem with is that these people are trying to Deplatform and cause trouble on my posts whenever something even ambiguously NTR comes up, for instance the Mel x Cassandra post(who are boyfriend and girlfriend).  It doesn't fit their vision of a harem game, so everything becomes NTR.  This leads into them trying to rebrand my game as an NTR simulator even though I believe this game is more than any one kink.

I also have to reiterate that people are allowed to like or dislike whatever they want.  Just because someone doesn't like NTR, it doesn't mean they're part of the Brigade.  Just because someone thinks it's NTR because Jake doesn't have a Harem, it doesn't mean they're part of the Brigade, either.  It's mainly the fighting, and attacking my income I have a problem with.  They've even admitted to trying to chase away potential fans (see header image).

As for Mel, I actually made a short character breakdown.  Their main argument against him is that he's one dimensional.  He's an alpha and he's there to steal Jake's girls.  That Mel is the favorite.  I actually think he's got a fair amount of depth to him.  I expected people to get rubbed the wrong way by him at the start and as the player interacts with him, comes to like him a little more over time.  I didn't expect a Gaslighting Brigade over it.

This was meant to go alongside v0.0.57.1b, but I think I have to post it:

Mel's Character Breakdown (Contains some massive Spoilers)

So, what's happening is that people saw some character traits, jumped to the conclusion that I expected them to, but instead of either putting the game down or exploring his character further, they label my game as an NTR simulator and start a Brigade.

Anyways, this is just to confirm to my followers that this IS happening.  Do not let anyone try to trick you into thinking that this isn't.

Again, do not respond or harass any of these people.

And just because someone doesn't like NTR it doesn't mean they're apart of the Brigade.  It's the combativeness and disinformation that does that.  Not liking my game is fine.  Trying to go out of your way to destroy it isn't.

If you want to help out, maybe leave a like or a comment instead of engaging them.  Drown them out with positivity.

As always, thank you for your continued support.  It really means a lot to me.

This project will continue as I originally intended.  We will push through this.

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Comments

Eyyy

Sucks you gotta deal with this kinda stuff but great work on the game, looking forward to future updates.

ocalhoun

Sometimes I'm glad my Patreon isn't popular enough to attract stuff like this. Keep going, man -- you're doing great work!

SilverS

I really wish they would just go away. If you don't like the content for that update, then go away and wait for the next one. Not everything in a game is going to be to someone's interests. That's not surprising in the slightest. So, if it's not the character or content you care about that update, then wait for the one that does. Don't complain or make up BS NTR claims in order to harm the creator. But I know this sort of comment is pointless. Those sorts of people are trash and are also almost always not patrons of yours anyways.

JPMK! {verb}

Jeez Louise :/ This sucks, and I'm so sorry about how much motivation these people have to be consistent dicks about your efforts. Hang in there!

Cat_Atack

usually quiet here, but I'm gonna be vocal for once and say that whoever these people/this person is who's trying to run this gaslighting campaign needs to just stop. like boo-hoo there's something you either wanted more of or didn't like, whoopidy do, there's better things in the world for them to get up in arms over than a VN game thats in development still. now as a spoiler free sidenote: I was glad I absolutely CALLED IT with you know who the moment I first saw them

Roughlandin

Again, I seriously don't get why this dude/dudes latch onto Mel so hard. Have they even played the game? Yeah there's some powerplay D/S stuff involved (They're wolves. That's kinda how wolves do.), but Mel is never mean to Jake, forces Jake, pushes Jake, belittles Jake, etc. He and Jake never have anything but friendly interactions, and even the D/S stuff is strictly left in the bedroom. Like I said before, I think somebody is projecting a lot of personal baggage onto Mel and propping him up as this big bully bull that, as far as the game so far has shown, he just isn't. Why? I don't know, man. Your guess is as good as mine. But if this is really just one guy making all these alts just to brigade and torpedo your game because of how he THINKS an imaginary character thinks/feels/behaves? Dude... get some help. Seriously.

Dragon Cobolt

Mel's cute and he and Jake's relationship is cute!

Troqu

Was this supposed to be a supporter only post? I used to support, but I just can't support every creator I follow all the time, such as now, and the way this was written seems to indicate you thought it was supporter only. Either way this is shitty of them. Seriously grow the fuck up and just stop following porn that makes you unhappy... Also, I'm not sure why but I never really saw the arrogance/bull-ness in him. He always just seemed like a typical older sibling partner to me. I never really got the impression that Mel was going to try and sleep with anyone but Cass (excluding when your controlling him). He's a bit cocky, but he's banging one of the hottest gals around and seems well off, smart, and fit so why wouldn't he be?

AnselmBlackheart

If I might butt in here to talk to you writer to writer, I think I can explain to you why mel recieves such a visceral reaction. Put simply, while your post detailing your plans for him does show your thoughts... you have become blinded by your own plan. THis is common to any writer who has a big reveal, myself included. You lay little hints and, because you know the end point, they seem entirely sufficient as forshadowing. In mel's case, they are not. You show he backs off, you show he cuddles Jake. So what? Maybe he's a bit consentious, that does not break from the view people have of him. It is insufficient to point to as foreshadowing, because it is insufficient as foreshadowing. Its GREAT, mind you, when the reveal is made and you can see those actions in a new light. But they do not, at all, by themselves act as foreshadowing to any greater thing. They are, by themselves, simply personality quirks which can be explained in dozens of ways that does not change the view of him at all and don't even register as being out of character. So, why do people have this view of Mel? Well, that one is another flaw. In this case, you vastly overemphasize the 'alpha' status. It feels like every other sentence is referring to that status. It then eclipses everything else and thus becomes the only major trait of him. This is not realistic and often has characters speaking entirely differently, it becomes jarring and very noticeable because of this. Then, because it is so noticeable, it becomes THE leading trait people think of with him. With the description of the problem, I think it would be an easier fix for the latter than the former. Rework the dialogue to remove the word Alpha, find synonyms or other ways of saying the same thing. Preferably, throw in some far more overt and meaty hints into the fray as to his reveal to hit the former. TL;DR: You overemphasized the alpha status, and under emphasized the traits the reader is meant to pick up on. leading the character to seem completely one note and rubs people wrong.

Andrew Quintana

My first view of Mel was as a dominant Alpha character. He oozes confidence and strength, let’s face it he is a hunk! In fact when I first did that sex scene with Mel I was surprised. His dialogue wasn’t of dominance specifically but also of a caring nature. He pushes the boundaries at times but he focuses on the needs of the person he is with. Heck, a lot of his talk is just basically him talking dirty for the fun and sexiness of it. As the game goes farther, you see he has a really nice personality and has been close to Jake, in a way like a big brother or role model. Honestly, he is a character with such great depth that you may at first feel distant towards but if you give him the chance you fall in love with.

BigMac

>People are gaslighting me and spreading false information about NTR. >Also Mels the bull of the game, and is going to have sex with Julia, literally NTR. Hilarious.

Jon Guilt

I actually did not take Mel that way, wish I hadn't read your spoilers now. Given the domination scene and his advise and his general kind disposition I thought he was actually a reluctant Alpha, pushed into it by Cass's personal kinks and a few misinterpretations from prior events. I read into it more of a person who is inwardly wincing every time they try to look like the Bull and was actually just a really chill confident guy (perhaps personal experience with such people). That said he is also my default character for soul-link because I think making him have accidental discharges is hilarious. As to the other crap going on, I have dead flies on my window sill that are more concerning to me. Out of politeness it's probably best we pretend they're not there.

snowloss

Just left my final thoughts on this situation and others as a reply in your previous post. Hopefully I was of some help on this topic. With any luck and a bit more communication I'd like to think this is behind us all now.

Zap Rowsdower

I mean, I don't really care for Mel personally (He's not to my tastes and that's fine) but FFS can these guys get their collective heads out of their asses?

Alexander L

I'll fully admit, I don't like NTR, and at first I didn't like Mel because I thought he was an asshole, but as I progressed through things, discovered he was actually a really alright guy. And while he's not to my tastes physically, I have zero problems with him now. Can these people go find someone else to harass already? Or better yet, just stop? They're just hurting someone trying to make a living, and not hurting anyone while they do it. Sorry this is happening to you Kanashii. Hope it stops promptly.

LifeWulf

I haven't played the game yet (just interested in it for a time when I live alone again lol). But even I, a mere follower, can wrap my head around how ridiculous this whole brigade is. Keep doing what you're doing Kanashii. I, and people actually interested in the game for what it is, aren't going anywhere. Oh, and the "Mel and Cassandra is NTR" when they're literally boyfriend and girlfriend? Now that's just funny.

furry81

your games not only for one person. i have mel bang the mc and thats all i play it for lol just keep making your game the way you want it's pretty fun.