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RFR Early Bird: Bob Iger Book Bombshells/Kevin Feige (Patreon)

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STAR WARS Behind-The-Scenes news dominates this week’s episode of Rebel Force Radio. From the bombshells dropped in Bob Iger’s new memoir regarding Disney’s treatment of George Lucas, to the shocking news about Marvel’s Kevin Feige joining the galaxy far, far away, this has been a memorable week. Be there with us when the Feige news broke and hear our first-blush reactions and predictions. What will this mean for the future of Star Wars, Kathleen Kennedy, and the projects announced for Benioff/Weiss and Rian Johnson? We try to connect-the-dots. We go through the STAR WARS chapter in “The Ride of a Lifetime” and analyze Bob Iger’s account of the Disney acquisition of Lucasfilm and missteps along the way, along with revelations and confirmations about how the sale when down. Plus, the lessons learned by Luke Skywalker, Star Wars collecting rants spill over from RFR Rush Hour and more!

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Bianca from Michigan

Thank goodness! I've had one helluva stressful day at work today.

Patrick Palen

An RFR every other day keeps the therapist doctor away.

Jared Cantor

RFR and rush hour in same week! Lots of good RFR content makes me a happy listener.

Peter Beisser

First of all, I need the RFR guys to do this kind of summary for the books I read for my office book club. This dissection of Iger's autobiography (definitely weird that it's read by some rando) shows once and for all that it was George who "killed" Star Wars (at least till some creatives get in their and right the ship). Yes, corporate America tempted him, but he went to the dark side by following their tempting words. If he had walked away for good from the negotiating table, he would have found another avenue to finance the next trilogy or TV series. It was fast money, and fast money put us on the directionless path we've been on since 2015. Appreciate the Cliff's Notes.

Matt Cunningham

Hey I’m in Orlando at Galaxy’s Edge! I feel like climbing the Black Spire Outpost and planting an RFR flag or tagging one of these alley walls with an RFR logo Sabine Wren style!! But I’ll resist the urge. Thanks for the years and years of great content and community Jimmy and Jason! Really appreciate it!

Yancy Evans

Good episode, but any discussion of Iger and Lucas must include a piece that was entirely missing from Iger’s book. The standard company line inside Disney, AND LFL is that “Star Wars would have died if Disney hadn’t bought Lucasfilm”. That’s something that parroted by the likes of Pablo Hidalgo, and Iger... and it’s utter rubbish. I would direct folks to this article which confirms a couple of aspect of Iger’s recollection of the sale, but adds a couple of twists: https://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/22/us/george-lucas-retreats-from-battle-with-neighbors.html Lucas’ proposed Grady Ranch film studio is the key to EVERYTHING. Lucas had purchased the Grady Ranch area near LFL in the early 80’s with the intentions of using it at a later date. In the late 2000’s Lucas began drafting plans for his own film studio on his property. The plans had actually been approved and construction was to begin sometime in 2012. This of course begs the question, if Lucas was building his own studio, why was he retiring... Yeah because he wasn’t planning on retiring, at least not yet. There would literally be no motive to building a film studio for a company you planned to leave. It’s pretty clear why Lucas wanted to build this... for production of the Star Wars Underworld series. Trades in the late 2000’s had been speculating Lucas was making another Star Wars film because he had sent out Rick Berman scouring Europe for a studio where he could shoot this series on the cheap along with studios where he could shoot Red Tails at a discount. I’d like to remind folks that Underworld wasn’t a pipe dream Lucas and Ronald D Moore along with a team of writers had fully developed 50 scripts for the show, and the series was even in the early stages of pre-production... the issue was the cost of the show. While some Eastern European studios could help defer costs Grady Ranch would have been the solution because every aspect of the show could have been handled in house. That would explain why Lucas was not so quick to hand over LFL in early 2011 during talks, and why he wanted to retain control. If he had his own studio, he would have more leverage with Disney, and would have likely been able to retain some control, because if they weren’t interested he could always go back to Fox. But something changed in November of 2011. According to Iger Lucas seemed more willing to negotiate and simply wanted a better financial deal... so what was that something... read the article above. In November 2011, after having been given initial approval to go ahead with the Grady Ranch Studio plans, he received a letter from an interest group representing local residents in the region announcing they planned to go ahead with a challenge to the City of Marin. It would have dragged out for years, and likely have cost Lucas a lot of money... THAT’s what motivated Lucas to sell at that point. So I don’t quite buy all of Iger’s account of the events.

Rebel Force Radio
>>27276139

Good job Yancy. That is a very accurate account of what went down. I watched this all happen very closely. Grady Ranch was the straw that broke the camels back and pushed GL into retirement. When it fell thru, he called Iger in Dec 2011. Iger has an uncanny ability to be in the right place at the right time.

Yancy Evans

Jimmy, I also suspect that’s why Rinzler’s blog recounting the days of LFL post Revenge to the sale of Disney was forced to shut down. It was all fine and dandy when he talked about the Ranch and the development of TCW... but when he started to get close to recounting the events of 2010-2012 someone asked him to stop.

Javier Solorzano
>>27276139

I'm a San Franciscan & have been following SW & LFL since I was 11 yrs old. Your absolutely correct about the local challenge to Lucas' land development plans....I remember very clearly that whole NIMBY drama. At the time I recognized it as an EXTREME ploy to shut down development at any cost; similar to what happened to the "Lucas Museum" in the Presidio & in Chicago (sorry JMac). It was such a small minded, uninformed reaction to "what could have been".....ughhh

adam smerecki

The example of the respect Paramount showed GR as opposed to the disrespect Disney showed GL, sums up this situation accurately. The book truly has left a bad taste in my mouth. I was ready to forgive the Disney missteps with TLJ now I am grossed out again by Disney. Any story they tell now will be hard for me to watch. I am a business leader and I would NEVER reccomend Iger as an example of leadership. His book is a blue print on how deceive and belittle his prey before completely stripping them of dignity. That is not leadership. That is pompous dictatorship. Whomever has Bob Iger on their resume for a reference would not be an ethical hire. Suck it Bob.

Sean W. from Warsaw

While I have a similar distaste to others, I think the fact that Lucas is involved in the story of TROS and The Mandalorian helps matters for me. Still, I felt bad all over again....

Ron B. from Ohio

Hey guys I finally took the time to get Patreon set up. Sorry it took so long. I have been listening for years and you guys are the only Star Wars podcast I listen to. As for Feige joining Star Wars, it is too late, the damage is done. Feige was needed at the beginning to use his planning skills to make the end of the Skywalker saga the event and the respectful send off for the O.T. heroes that it should be. Nothing outside of scrapping the poorly planned and written episodes 7 and 8 can undo the damage done. I hate to start out so negative but being a Star Wars fan from 1977 on, I just feel really betrayed by the way the O.T. characters were pushed to the side and made to look like failures and quitters. They allowed greed and checking off social boxes to take precedence over good story telling and common sense.