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RFR Q&A #44: After The Sequel Trilogy (Patreon)

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What's the outcome for the galaxy following the events of Episode IX? What's next for Rey? Does The Force become more attainable by the regular citizen? What is the future, if any, for The Jedi? RFR VIP Sean Wanty thinks we need to talk about this stuff! Join us as Sean makes his Q&A debut to discuss with Jimmy Mac. Plus, Shadows of the Empire, collecting Star Wars comic books and more! 

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Justin Harrell

Sean you could pull off a Lucas impression. I kept thinking you sounded like George.

Blake Weaver

Sean did awesome! And I loved the spiritual talk. As a Christian and religious person the spiritual aspects of Star Wars always have affected me the most. It was great to hear someone’s perspective on that aspect of the storytelling.

David Fieldsend

I also really enjoyed the spiritual discussions as it relates to Star Wars. And I agree that after the Jedi erred in being too centralized and politicized, they would become almost like monkish Texas Rangers of the galaxy, following the Force to where wrongs needed to be righted, similar to Ahsoka’s wanderings after she leaves the temple.

Peter Beisser

Gotta give all the Q&A hosts credit. Way deeper discussions than I'd pull out. I'd probably just ask JMac how he stays awake watching the original trilogy. I ALWAYS fall asleep now. It's getting bad.

Trevor Hallam

Great conversation and one of my favorite Q&As so far! Love the already/not yet thought line as well. I’m one who would love to see Rey’s story continue so thanks for bringing it up!!

Sean W. from Warsaw

Thanks so much to everyone for their kind responses! I was rather nervous throughout this episode, it being my first time doing anything like this at all. That everyone has responded so positively, especially about the spiritual aspects, helps me to better understand how much we share in common as fans; and how much we share in common as people. These thoughts have been swimming around in my head for a very long time, and I've always been unsure how they would sound to others. Things like this can often sound better in your own head. Anyways, all of this positivity has helped put things in perspective more and has given me that much more gusto for the next episode. Thanks so much, everyone!

Sean W. from Warsaw
>>46674156

I thought I wasn't as clear as I could have been. I meant to add a little more to finish that thought line out, like furthering the parallel between the Chosen One and the church by discussing how I think future heirs of the Skywalkers will correspondingly be spiritual in nature, much like the apostles were and followers of Christ are in nature. There's a living spirit there in the aftermath of the Chosen One in Star Wars that I think is very personal. And after Luke and Leia passed on, I think it became stronger still. Rey taking on the Skywalker mantle is something I find deeply powerful in light of all this, no less than how we as believers take on the mantle of Christ. This'll be something I hope to explore in a future episode: What does it mean to be a Skywalker? It's clearly something greater than we've ever seen in the films. What does that mean going forward now? Anyways, thanks so much!

Sean W. from Warsaw
>>46625991

For sure! That's kind what I was leaning on, too. It's always been disappointing to me that this idea wasn't followed through with Luke and his temple. But the more I think about it, like I was talking about in the episode, the more I understand how important it was that Luke got to go through a higher spiritual awakening ordeal than even in the OT. Because of that, he's still THE man as he helps to personally guide a whole galaxy this time around, and not just a handful of people. It'll be really interesting to see where future stories go with this, since even in the expansive old EU we never really got to see the Jedi like roaming monks after the OT, at least not that I'm aware of. It was more like the PT era Jedi all over again, if I'm not mistaken. Let's see what the future writers do!

Sean W. from Warsaw
>>46617794

Thanks so much! In this day and age, especially, I'm always unsure how anyone will respond to these sorts of discussions.

Sean W. from Warsaw
>>46611822

Lol! Oh my! You know, I remember one of the first times I ever called in on the show. I think it was last year not long before TROS came out. I was super worried about what they would do and sounded bummed out in my voice message so bad Jason busted out laughing and said, "Is this George on the line?!" He then told me to "put the gun down." Lol So apparently you're not the only one who thinks I sound like him!

David Fieldsend

I think there’s a rich vein there to tap for the Disney+ shows, in how the Jedis delve into their individual relations with the Force, specifically for Ahsoka in Mando season 2 (and maybe, hopefully, her own spinoff show), as well as for Kenobi. Ahsoka leaves the Temple and through her own quest she ends up in the middle of the action again, on Mandalore dealing with Maul, and later as Fulcrum in the rebellion. Similarly, its very intriguing to get a more in depth look into how Obi-wan, in his decades of isolation and reclusiveness, again becomes a central figure in the galaxy wide struggle against the Dark side. I agree that Luke’s story from The Last Jedi, which I was unhappy with at first, could become a model for the Force users after the “Awakening” that plays out through the sequel trilogy. He looked inward to find his own true expression of the Light side, and was guided to act at the exact right time to push the Force back to balance in the way he believed it should and could be. He could be a template for Rey, and all other Force users that emerge afterwards. In that way, Rey studying in isolation on Tatooine for a while, as Jimmy suspected, perhaps with guidance from Luke and/or Leia’s force ghosts, makes a lot of sense. In that way Luke is right in TLJ, that the Jedi order must die, to be replaced by a more diverse and unaffiliated network of Lightside force users throughout the galaxy. These questions, to me, represent some of the most interesting story lines for the future of Star Wars, and not necessarily explorations of the High Republic, which we already know is doomed to fail.

Javier Solorzano

Sean, I really enjoyed your Q&A w/ Jimmy. Especially because you hit on the Ancillary/Polar of what I've been fascinated about in SW mythology. You questioned about what happens after the ST (the future); my fascination is w/ the "beginings" (the before) of the SW mythology.....before the PT......way before! The first "sensing" in the SW mythology that there is a Force; which ties in w/ my Catholic upbring & knowing that there had to be a "beginning" to Humanity's Consciousness, Knowledge (original sin) & Questioning of existence (being cast out of The Garden of Eden). This is all tied up w/ the saying that, "...you can't know where you're going unless you know where you came from" (past & future tied together). Good stuff.......thanks for opening up the conversation.

Sean W. from Warsaw
>>46688544

Very good points all around. I've often wondered if the Jedi Order should indeed pass away or rather to transform into something even greater. That'd be a good discussion. My own take is the lasting impression we got from Luke when he returns as the greatest Jedi who ever lived and says he will not be the last Jedi. That for me speaks volumes, through words and actions, that there will always be a place and a real need for the Jedi in some form. I think it's important to have spiritual guides to enlighten, for sure. The Force is ultimately about peace and enlightenment. But I think there's still a place for guardians, too, in some capacity. Also, not sure about the High Republic, either.... But I'm still excited to some degree! Anyways, good insights, man!

David Fieldsend
>>46688544

Don't get me wrong, I'm still excited about any Star Wars stories that get explored, including the High Republic. I've already subscribed to the High Republic comic coming out in January at my local comic book store. But I'm assuming those stories are less about spirituality and more about regality and grandeur.

Eddie Baker

Great job, Sean. One of my favorite episodes of Q&A. You and Jimmy should definetly make the spiritual side of Star Wars a regular thing. Thought provoking and deep. Loved it!

Evan Flax

Sean Great Job. Has anyone ever said how much you sound like George Lucas. I listened at 2 times speed and it's uncanny

Sean W. from Warsaw
>>46691575

Oh wow. Really deep stuff to think about, for sure! The idea of knowing the ancient past in order to move forward has actually been on my mind alot for Star Wars. I think moving forward past the ST and having various explorations into the past would be a perfect way to introduce cool stories of earlier time periods, especially as the new Jedi would likely struggle to understand their roots.

Sean W. from Warsaw
>>46714708

Lol! Yeah, Jason Sean and one of the fine gentlemen here in the comments think I do. Faster speed, eh? "Faster, more intense!" Hilarious!

Sean W. from Warsaw
>>46712678

Thanks so much for your kind words. Yeah, we'll see where the conversation takes us, for sure! I'm confident it'll come back around to this deep material. It's the sort of thing that's regularly on my mind, so naturally it'd come out in discussions.

Philip Ehlke

Great to hear such a interesting, thought-provoking episode. Well done!

Nathan Wenzel

Dude you did a great job man! Cant wait to hear more

Rob Strecker
>>46680631

I was really nervous my first time hosting as well. Much less so the second time. Third time is going to have to wait as I've had to scale back expenses for a couple months, but rest assured I'll be back.

Joe
>>46674156

Sean, this is great. I would love to discuss more about the faith-based things in relation to Star Wars. I have had many thoughts on this topic as well. There is a lot of symbolism and themes that seem to fit so well through all of the films. It's quite uncanny what we see when viewing from a particular faith.

Sean W. from Warsaw
>>46674156

It really is. That's what's kept me coming back to Star Wars so much throughout most of my life. And it's why I have been finding more and more value in the ST. Can't wait to break down some thoughts, man!

David Fieldsend

I just re-watched The Last Jedi and totally thought of Luke as a sort of Martin Luther of the Force, essentially telling Rey she doesnt need to follow the failed tenets of a council of severe monks with their own particular hang-ups in order to tap into the Lightside, that the Force exists independently

Sean W. from Warsaw
>>47139083

Ooh! I really like that! I don't know if I've ever thought of it quite that way, but this makes total sense. For me, the wording he uses in TLJ had always been a bit confusing or misleading. "The Force does not belong to the Jedi." I always had thought that sounded odd. Why would he think the Jedi believed the Force "belonged" to them? But the more I grappled with it the more it made sense: It's not so much that he believed the Jedi felt the Force belonged to them alone, but rather that they felt fearful of anyone having the Force and not being guided by the Jedi. In many ways, I guess it's the same thing. It's just an odd word usage, I guess. So for sure, when you put it in the perspective you described, Luke is totally a great reformer of the Jedi, in the sense of like the Reformation of the church. The Jedi of old were clearly of a priestly class that wouldn't allow others in to know the spiritual truths but kept it to themselves and their own kind. Luke helped open it up to the wider world again upon his death, especially.

Sean W. from Warsaw
>>47139083

Have you played the newer Star Wars game, Jedi: Fallen Order? Not to try to spoil anything, but if you haven't played it, you might be interested in checking it out, if you're the gaming sort. It tells an interesting story that delves in that direction a bit, exploring what the Force is and who should have access to knowing it, etc. It's good stuff!

David Fieldsend
>>46625991

Hey Sean! After hearing Ahsoka talk about Tython, and in preparation for the next Mando chapter, I just listened to the EU audiobook of 'Dawn of the Jedi, Into the Void' by Tim Lebbon, which is set in the ancient days of the Jedi (37,000+/- BBY) on the planet of Tython and in the surrounding area. Apparently it's also a prequel to the 'Dawn of the Jedi' comic series, which I've got to read still. Anyway, listening to that book made me think back to this conversation, because at that time, the Jedi were way different. They had families, lived more integrated and less ascetic lives, and once they advanced past their training they became Jedi rangers, traveling throughout the system righting wrongs. It would be a cool direction after the ST for the Jedi to look back to their origins to help dictate their future.