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Obsessed with THE BOOK OF BOBA FETT (Patreon)

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2022-01-21 23:26:41
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It’s ALL Boba Fett this week on RFR. We have more highlights from Temuera Morrison and Ming-Na Wen’s THE BOOK OF BOBA FETT media tour and have quotes from the actors about the Tusken Raider massacre, the controversial Mod speeder chase, and George Lucas. Does Boba talk too much? Will we see Boba encounter Ewoks? We listen for hints or clues. We also look at rumors about an potential unannounced upcoming STAR WARS streaming series, along with the history of Boba’s death and resurrection via comics and books.

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Martin Lampen

I cannot stop saying ‘Ahhhh - the Polynesian Spa’ in a Kiwi accent. Thanks a bunch, chaps.

Jared Cantor

Yes! I need RFR daily at this point, which is probably a sign of an addiction lol.

Paul Clingan

I listen to the Apple podcasts on 2x and I always get so tripped out hearing the patreon episodes or YT lives. Lol thanks for the episode fellas!

Scott Armstrong

I feel like Boba was pretty savage in Mando season 2 (taking out Stormtroopers on Tython, killing Bib). In the Boba series, I feel Boba is trying to build an organization/family and is trying to recruit allies. He must reel himself in with different characters because they might be an asset to him. Just one man's opinion.

James Lawrence

I am imagining that The Niktos Biker Gang were out for a nice Sunday drive across the Sands of Tatooine, maybe heading to a bar for a drink and spot of lunch. Then all of a sudden, they get annihilated by Slave 1, probably for a crime they did not commit! Still, the look on Boba's face and the nod of appreciation from Fennec Shand as he took them out was worth it!

Steven Jimenez

Ming-Na finally exposes herself,, that old grandma laugh had me dead 😂😂😂

Blake Weaver

Super fun show guys. Can’t wait to listen to it again. Im happy you guys are having fun with Book of Boba despite the minor flaws it may have. I’ve been waiting since the early/ mid 90’s for a show like this featuring Fett. The world building and character progression is really making it a amazing experience for me personally I’m not taking for granted.

Yoshi Aday

In reference to the Mod gang discussion, interesting fact: According to Star Wars Year by Year Visual History, George Lucas was a camera operator for the Altamont Rolling Stones concert where the Hell's Angels motorcycle club acted as security in 1969. Also, in the same year, Easy Rider was released(indie film). Slight influence? Who knows!

Sean W. from Warsaw

So, this might be controversial to say, but I'm honestly not sure why they felt the need to explore the Tuskens more. I always thought of them in the vein of the old sci-fi comics Lucas was inspired by to show very dangerous alien species that were always terrorizing planets but never getting explored more. They were very exotic and dangerous aliens. Not sure how much of a need to make them like people there was. I think that exploring the Tuskens so much, while it has very interesting features, also may run the risk of diminishing the sense of threat a bit. I'm on the fence about it all, still, but just can't shake the feeling of them being too different than how I always imagined them. Exploration of them is cool, but when does it become too much and redefine them too much? I'm not sure it's necessary to have to use real world parallels of natives and such? I always kind of approached them from the perspective of exactly what Cliegg Lars said about and left it there; or even akin to the Tales of the Jedi comics in which we actually see the Massassi warriors on Yavin. They reproduce and all that; but they walk like men while being very brutish and dull. Sci-fi has been filled with this kind of storytelling of making man-like aliens who have no other purpose than being dangerous threats in the story without any real need to explore them more. And for all these decades, such were the Tuskens. They seemed to have been pretty clearly established in a similar vein to me for all these years. Even their very appearance is made to strike fear and all that. The sounds they make, too. Maybe it'll just take time for me to adjust, but I can't shake that they kinda dropped the ball a bit on this one. The need to constantly resort to the politics and such to justify this and that in storytelling about aliens is just so foreign to me. It's like back in the day when Lucas was accused of racism with Jar Jar, and he said something like "What's so racist about an orange alien that looks like a frog?" Lol (Incidentally, Jimmy talked about this on a Star Wars Oxygen episode on The Phantom Menace, I believe! Good convo.) Anyways, just trying to make sense of all this. I like the exploration of the Tuskens a bit, but kinda wish they had left well enough alone, too. Curious to hear others' thoughts.

Peter Beisser
>>76349080

The "cowboy and indians" craze of our parents' generation and earlier was clearly one sided in its depiction of history. The indigenous people were more often than not the bad guys. With few exceptions, their stories were not told. In the years that have come since, pop culture has shown a much broader look at that time period and recounted where both parties were coming from. And I guess the way we look at the Tuskens in "BoBF" aligns with that more modern way of looking at what we once thought was just the "bad guys." Kind of how we used to look at the rancor as just a "monster." But we now know that that may not be the case. I like the modern take at looking at these situations with a fresh set of eyes. You saw it in the latest Spider-Man film. The premise without giving too much away was what if the bad guys were just guys that needed help. They didn't have to be killed. And I thought that was a totally interesting take--maybe not the smartest take for the characters in the film--but just to look back at what had been so black and white. And George was very black and white. Good and bad. And it's great. Very Joseph Campbell, and all. But we're seeing more and more that people want to explore the space in between. To understand what would make someone the "bad guy" or the "monster." And maybe they're not really the monsters at all.

Sean W. from Warsaw
>>76349080

You hit the nail on the head as to what I was going for: Simplicity of storytelling. I'm looking at this from a storytelling and storyteller's perspective as a steward of what Lucas created and am left scratching my head. Because he was going for very old concepts and ideas--simplified concepts, even--that were old even for his time. His sensibilities are what drove the mythos. And trying to redefine it just doesn't work for me. The modern need to have to explore whether someone is good or bad and why and all that doesn't always work. Sometimes a monster really is just that; sometimes savage aliens are really just that. To me, it would be akin to exploring Sauron or the Orcs in The Lord of the Rings in this light: The storytelling would no longer be mythological but very, very modern. It wouldn't be so timeless as it always has been. I don't need to sympathize with Sauron any more than the Orcs. That's not integral to the story or the nature of those characters. It would be really interesting to see what Lucas had to say on the Tuskens over the years to better understand where he was coming from. But as I understand it, injecting modern sensibilities into these old fashioned stories is a recipe for undoing what made Lucas's creations so beloved for so long. The old fashioned nature isn't to everyone's liking, but that's gonna happen. You gotta play by those rules that were established a long time ago, otherwise you run the risk of what happened with the ST and the redefinition of the OT characters, etc. As I see it, this is the price you gotta pay for playing in Lucas's sandbox: You gotta abide by his rules. And I have a super hard time seeing that he was looking primarily at politics when creating the Tuskens, specifically. I always got the impression he was going a bit more towards, say, John Carter of Mars, or Strange Stories, or Mars Attacks!, etc. Real pulpy stuff that has little to no bearing on our own history. And I can't shake the feeling that the Tuskens have now lost some of their foreign-ness and danger I always felt they had in large part because they seemed so inhuman all these decades. Tatooine feels that much less mythic and dangerous, in some ways. Too much mystery may have been pulled back. I think modern storytellers have to be careful in not pulling too many analogies into scie-fi. Sometimes weird, dangerous aliens really do just exist as weird, dangerous aliens in storytelling, like ancient myths about man-like creatures roaming the wastes that preyed on people by deceiving them into thinking they were more like them than they thought (like the sirens). I think doing too much to the contrary is asking for trouble down the line with old, mythic fables or fable-like stories. It's good to ask questions, but not always the best to get the answers!

David Glading

The story about Anthony Daniels and Harrison Ford, brilliant! 😂

Kurt Shimala
>>76285835

Funny you should mention that, the shots of the Wookie getting angry at the bar before he starts ripping transhoshan arms off, reminded me of a similar shot in Gimmie Shelter of one of the Hells Angels!

Kyle Starkel
>>76349080

I disagree that there should be some rigid dogmatic template for making Star Wars. I find it hard to believe that George would feel that way either. Otherwise, the prequels wouldn’t have turned out like they did - completely different than the first three. In fact, the main arc of the prequels is intended to show us the fall of Vader, who started out as a faceless frightening villain, and attempt to help us relate to him and understand why he ended up how he did.