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Themes: Voting or Rotation

  • 1: Voting - Keep Themes as the current Vote system 26
  • 2: Rotation - Change Themes to a Rotating system 41
  • I do not have a strong opinion either way 10
  • 2024-05-16
  • —2024-05-31
  • 77 votes
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Hello Alley Crew and welcome to another poll relating to cooldowns and the likes, specifically aimed at the Themes we have.The most common feedback I get regarding my work is a lack of variety, and Themes are no exception thereof. After increasing the cooldowns in small increments over time, I've realized that with the way we have it now the two Theme options on each poll are a single step removed from simply having a rotation instead, which for me as a creator works just as well - or perhaps even better in some cases.Allow me to delineate the difference between the two:1: Voting - which is the present system, gives you 2 options to choose for each poll, with a lengthy cooldown that makes any winner wait 3 polls before being featured again. This means there are always 2 Theme options available to vote between at the bottom of the poll.2: Rotation - changing to a rotating system would instead mean having a theme predetermined. This would mean you would only vote for the ladies while knowing the Theme beforehand, which would be announced loud and clear for each poll.Voting has its advantage in that it allows for more agency and choice for backers, with the downside that some Themes can get a bit stuck in the voting pool and not be featured as often.Rotation has its advantage in knowing the theme before voting for a lady you think fits for it, and since we have 5 Themes spread over alternating Loops and Scenarios, the rotation also means that if "Large Monsters" was featured in a loop it would inevitably be featured for a Scenario next time it comes up in the rotation, ensuring higher variety over the content formats as well. Additionally, there's less of a chance where a lady ends up with the "wrong" Theme in people's minds, as can happen when there are 2 fairly even Themes in the race and one of the ladies suddenly surges into victory, or vise versa. We'll also be able to fit 2 more ladies in the poll owing to the slots being freed up. The downside is that this removes the agency of voting for a Theme, making the system feel less dynamic.I will be running this poll for ~2 weeks, ending on the final day of this month, to make sure you folks have plenty of time to vote.So, Themes - Voting or Rotation?

Comments

Ziff

I think polls are good to gauge community interest but it's important not to let a plurality that is not a majority keep winning them. Sometimes it's good to rotate stuff around.

Dreamhawk

It's a difficult prospect to navigate, indeed. The issue with enforcing a rotation with any kind of spontaneity is that I'd have to somehow find the moment in time where I can safely put down my foot and say "Humans have not won for 6 months now so it is their turn" and subsequently rob the then on-going vote of their option to vote for the other option, and I feel like there's just never actually a good moment to do that.

Ziff

I get why it's hard, but I've seen other artists do such things. Maybe start a pattern where you do poll based stuff 2 times in a row then every 3rd time do what you think is undervalued? This can be good for your following since you'll attract new people who aren't into what usually wins polls.

Dreamhawk

No doubt the reason for instance monster/alien/fantasy creature theme victories are so common is specifically because that's the audience I have courted with my usual work over the years - that is, monsters/aliens/fantasy creatures of various kinds win more often than not because that's what my work has always contained, with or without polls. It's not that I think humans are undervalued personally, but rather that I have backers that occasionally do express a desire to see them, if anything for variety's sake, and the issue is that the current system allows them to be almost entirely sidelined. Having the theme's inclusion systematized somehow, such as you describe it (effectively a rotation system but with larger gaps between guaranteed appearances), would be preferable while causing less backer frustration compared to that of my own vibes-based interference, though I'd have to make it clear in tier descriptions etc. We'll see how the vote turns out I reckon :)

Ziff

I'm totally fine with fantasy/monster content all the time. ...but I love variety! For me the bigger, more noticeable pattern is that Mass Effect characters seem very favored because you have A LOT of mass effect fans who follow you, haha.

Dreamhawk

While this vote does not pertain to characters, I've certainly heard calls for more variation there too, indeed. The issue there is exponentially larger than Themes owing to the sheer amount of ladies in the gallery, so I am yet to come up with any kind of lasting solution other than the Less Popular Ladies poll. Reckon we'll see what the future holds :)

Jess Westen

2 things. Ew who likes humans?, and so no to democracy lol.