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Love is Blind 0708 "Dirty Laundry" (Patreon)

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Cohabitation leads to tough conversations about cross-country moves, finances and living arrangements. A shocking discovery devastates a bride-to-be.

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Natalie Duarte

Mattie, I'm the same with the microwave. I have to clear the time remaining, it irks me! & I also use it as a clock.

Alisha Dawes

I need more of the swinging song.

Brittanny Tucker

Mattie! I live in the DMV and booked the pressed flower event at this place after i watched the show! Lol

Lisa

Cleaning that much is unnatural…. Girl needs therapy not cleaning.

M T

Totally agree- hate the asking dad permission to marry their daughter. If my partner did that, I would know he was not the right person for me!

Jackie Weisman

The way housing prices are in the DMV, I didn't think twice about him living at home

Solange Crawford

I mean I vacuum almost everyday but I have 3 kids, a husband who works in dirt all day and two dogs and a cat. So....

Dixon Syder
>>151938872

You’re not alone. I have the robot vacuum programmed to do it every night. I do it as needed in between. I have young kids, a dog, and a cat and don’t love stepping in crumbs so shame on me I guess?

Solange Crawford
>>151938872

I have no problem with Hannah's cleaning expectations and standards 🤣 but she doesn't know how to communicate those standards without making it demeaning towards her partner.

Val McCue

Thank you Mattie for calling out hypocrite Ramses. This guy nitpicking his partner for whatever suits his -phony- narrative is gross. Ugh, I can’t with this guy.

Jessica Williams

Aaaaugh. I’m sorry. I have to say it. Nick is a kid, y’all. He cannot boil water. He doesn’t pay bills. If she has a checklist, please know that some of these things are universal. A 28-year-old might still live with his parents; it’s super tough for this generation to buy a house. But his responsibilities are essentially the same as when he was 11! He’s not a grownup. She has her faults, sure, but don’t come for her about those concerns. I think most of us would have those concerns!

Jana Wilson

There is no medical professional that would do a sleep study on an inebriated patient. Stephen probably had a tinder hookup.

Jennifer Riester

I don't understand how she has that much time to clean, I barely have time to do basic stuff much less a weekly deep clean.

Marquetta aka Marq

The housing market in the DMV is trash. It’s highly competitive and you need to be prepared to pay at least $800k for a house that was built 30 years ago. I understand why Nick still lives at home especially if he’s just starting in his career and isn’t making a lot of money. But Nick should be a functioning adult and know how to do shit. Hannah is a bitch and she’s the type to weaponize a person’s response to her “jokes” saying that they’re being too sensitive or are overreacting

Michelle Martinez Logsdon

As a woman of a certain age here...56, emasculating a man to illuminate your superiority has the same impact when a man does it to us. It does not make you a Boss Bitch, it just makes you a bitch in the end. While many of us have issues with Nick and his lack of life skills, he appears to be a kind person that is patient with her constant mean-spirited "joking'. And given how her brother and her parents spoke about her and directly to her, this is a Hannah specific problem. She really needs to talk to someone about her insecurities and her need to take down people to pump herself up. Truly confident people do not have to constantly tell themselves and others how smart and hot they are....

Steph 👩🏻‍🦰

The second Steven talked about getting pegged….i was like oh I can’t WAIT to hear what Mattie & Poodle have to say abt this 🍑 👀

JENNIFER LEWIS

That “ding” from the Venmo took me out 🤣🤣🤣

Shannon Douglass

My husband asked my dad for his blessing to marry me and my dad's response was "y'all are both adults, y'all can do whatever you want" haha! But yes to what poodle said it was more of a respect thing than a permission thing.

Jessica Pyper

Does anyone else feel that LIB has an ethical and moral responsibility to screen potential cast members better than what they do? The shit the comes out about these men 👀👀

Chelsea Raycraft

Storytimewithrikki on TikTok. She’s amazing with the LIB tea. Y’all should have her as a guest!

TheKettralWingLeader10
>>151951643

I mean I’m just praying Ashely says no and left. This is like another level of pain and embarrassment. And for her mental sanity she should not get married to this guy under false pretenses

Rebecca Goodge
>>151941623

I could NOT be with someone like this but I definitely would have asked these specific questions in the pods!

Dixon Syder
>>151938872

💯 and the financial portion of the conversation as well. It was her delivery for me 😬

Dixon Syder
>>151945815

She’s single. I’m not judging I just can remember being able to do that cleaning routine easily before I had kids. Now……I have a breakdown of what gets done throughout the week. I am never able to clean my whole house in one day and those deep cleans also get broken up because……time.

Val McCue
>>151951643

If that is fodder for the show, then I hope LIB gets sued by these duped women.

Keli Hendryx

Monica said she found out about the texts bc Garret texted Stephen to say he and Taylor were on their way to bring M&S fall baked goods, but Stephen was in the bathroom. She looked at the phone and said the text right under Garret's was from a woman and she scrolled way back. Stephen had been texting with her since before the pods and she said one of the things she remembered was he told the woman something like "no one satisfies my kinks like you do." 😩 TRASH!

Megan Cannon

So if production KNEW about Tyler’s dirty secret, and still chose to follow Tyler and Ashley, then it totally blows their statement that they didn’t follow Leo and Brittany because they didn’t have a real shot at marriage. Dear Production: Are you here for altruistic reasons or for juicy tv?

Megan Cannon

My middle ground take on the tradition of asking for a dad’s blessing is that the Dad has been the main male influence in her life, up to this point, and if a prospective husband wants to fill those shoes going forward it makes sense to seek his blessing. That’s my peacemaking attempt 🤣

Liza Windmoeller

Ramses is beyond aggravating. I understand that our military HAVE caused destruction and havoc within the history, but it’s also an institution that should have a certain level of respect. I was so put off when he was judging the hell out of Marissa and her friends, and having sympathy “for anyone under US imperialism.” Um okay. I’m just confused why he lives here then, he is one of those people who bash America all day long, yet reaps the benefits of living here (I am Colombian). If the US is invaded/attacked I have a feeling his disdain for the military would evaporate. Just over the woke agendas of defunding the police and downplaying of the importance of the military, yet when shit hits the fan these are the first areas people turn for help 🙄🙄🙄. Lordt.

Steph 👩🏻‍🦰
>>151932537

I wouldn’t want my partner to ask my dad for permission, but even if that kind of thing did matter to me, why not include both parents?

Super Nova

I boohoo cried during the scene with Tim and Alex's dad. Emotional black men always get me, too bad the marriage ain't gonna happen😅🤷🏾‍♀️

M T
>>151932537

100! If I were to get married, I would have both my parents walk me down the aisle or neither

RobertL

They brought Neve Campbell back because they fired Melissa Barrera for speaking out about Palestine

Nicole Tullis

For the record I do t believe that wench Hannah vacuums everyday and deep cleans once a week. She’s just trying to make him feel like trash.

AP
>>151932537

Yes! Tradition of asking has to be done with…based on mine and my husband’s experience, disagree that it’s important in Black culture. We I both asked each other’s parents for their blessing generally. I asked his mom (his dad passed away) if we had her blessing to get engaged.

Katherine Rea
>>151962311

💯. All her passive aggressive little digs at him while he was showing her his house…what an asshole

Alyssa Holland

Omg Stephen really did think he was doing standup, although it was less of a tight five and more of a loose 45. And I absolutely think what he did was weird and gross; I also think Monica’s treatment of him up to that point was weird and gross and it was likely a matter of time before he acted out in some way because this man needs attention and validation 100% of the time. Hell, that’s probably why he’s even on the show, because he was hoping to just be drowning in women. And now the women who will slide into his DMs will probably be willing to tolerate being treated like crap. These men are for the streets.

Alyssa Holland
>>151962311

Maybe while she’s unemployed she has time to really unleash the cleaning monster but I agree, I think she exaggerated everything just to continue feeling superior to Nick. She is hateful.

Katherine Rea
>>151951381

My husband told my parents so they could help surprise me when he popped the question, which I think is a nice middle ground

Shannon Douglass
>>151951381

Yea I agree... I think that's really sweet. I don't disagree at all with what Matt and Poodle were saying about the tradition being antiquated but I do think it takes a long time for people to get out of certain cycles. And I live in Louisiana, so especially in the south the whole asking the father thing is literally just a sign of respect.

Katherine Rea
>>151957690

I love how he said “I don’t want to make sweeping generalizations of ppl” as he proceeded to make sweeping generalizations of her friends and anyone else who served 😂 also it was hella messed up that he basically conflated military service with MAGA.

Gemma Ryhanen
>>151942025

Made no sense. And don’t they take your devices? They don’t watch you sext while drunk smh

Gemma Ryhanen
>>151925644

I was just confused because why would there ever be time left anyways? Other than 1 second because you can’t with the ding.

Katherine Rea
>>151940817

Like his hands are clean from U.S. imperialism just cuz he’s not in the military. 🙄 Sorry buddy, you’re part of the capitalist machine just like all of us. Reminds me of Raynay refusing to witness a live chicken being processed but happy to buy Tyson nuggets

Val McCue
>>151940817

Exactly! If he pays taxes, he’s contributing to our military efforts overseas. Easy for him to run his mouth in a free country with democracy, sadly, his Venezuelan compatriots can’t say that over there.

Peggy Ann

Oh that god, you guys know about Rikkii’s posts about Tyler prior to recording episodes 8 and 9

Val McCue
>>151956841

🤮 I hope Monica doesn’t get a STD from this guy since he’s this careless.

Sheila Leigh

I’m the same way about clearing the microwave and oven timers/clocks!! I’m with you Mattie!!

Katherine Rea
>>151941623

He might be immature but I think it’s nice that he’s happy to live with his parents and have them pay some of his bills. I hate that Hannah is playing some imaginary game of “who’s the better adult” and “who’s had it harder” with that “I’ve been on my own since 18” shit while she berates him for not knowing about stocks 😤

Katherine Rea
>>151942025

That story was beyond weird and I love that Monica had the receipts to say he was lying

Katherine Rea
>>151970678

Did anyone else notice one of his pupils was super dilated when he was on the couch with her saying goodbye? I don’t think he is well, and they completely glossed over him losing his job. Was that because he took time off for the show?

kay

Sean from LALU lied to Destinie about how many kids he had.

jaclyn Yeager

Isn’t it Tim and Alex with the baby drama? Not Tyler and Ashley.

Lizzy

Ramses is the D bag to end all D bags. I also desperately want to do the pressed flower thing, and I desperately want to know what kind of gnarly shit Stephen was discussing at the “sleep study.” Also when Monica was sobbing on the couch and they filmed Stephen like he was a cryptid HA!!! The Substance I REALLY want to see that but I here it is nassssttyyyy I wonder if I can trick my bf into seeing it

Jenn

Can Hannah please remember she is unemployed and that's perhaps why she can vacuum daily?!

Dixon Syder
>>151945815

Hahahahahaha 😆 sort of…… to the best of my ability. I won’t pretend that they are often spread out much further apart than I’d like 😬

Lizzy
>>151957690

Him and his stupid little rat tails always acting holier than thou! it’s like PLEASE what have YOU ever done for the world?

Sarah Gigliotti

Thank you Mattie!! Asking the dad's permission is bullshit! Fuck the patriarchy! I can make my own damn decisions on who I want to marry!

Lauren

Not sure if anyone answered but Ashley's dad is def hatian. The dmv has a big hatian population.

Val McCue
>>151991504

😂 Truer words have never been spoken, and I have two teenagers and a dog.

Val McCue
>>151962311

Vacuuming every day isn’t a sustainable chore unless you’ve got deeper issues

RUBY LOPEZ

Monica was fake crying, right?

TT

Marissa needs to watch out! Retro-active shaming is a signature tactic of Abusers. The things you share with them they will turn on you like a wild dog, and it's a slow boil.

Carey Addis

I was really hoping for a quick round of “what else could you put your dick in?”

Carey Addis
>>151957690

If we didn’t have a military we would belong to Putin by now. I don’t understand what people like Ramses are thinking? As if we can just not have any protection and expect other countries to respect our autonomy? What a naive dummy.

Elisabeth Berry
>>151957521

I hate when whoever dad said he was “handing her off to him.” If my dad says something like that I’d lose my shit!!! I’m 34 years old and haven’t depended on you at all since 18.

Dunni

why is Ramses not allowed to find the military immoral? he’s entitled to his own opinion

Dunni
>>152044721

if you come from a country that has actually been impacted by these wars, you might understand better. American soldiers historically have gone abroad and been RACIST, raped women and children, murdered civilians, tortured people. not everyone is going to see military service as honorable!

Becca Horsley

It took me FAR to long into this season to realize that DMV is DC, Maryland, Virginia. I need to get out more!

Freja
>>152044721

I agree. She acknowledged that work she did enabled murder. Why can't he say he's morally opposed to doing that kind of job? We can nitpick his word choice but he is not a villain for not supporting the troops.

Dunni
>>152044721

yup! I think what makes no sense is that Ramses chose to marry someone who was a veteran when that’s clearly a moral hardline for him (as it would be for me). but people (especially first gen Americans) don’t always have the same opinion on the troops and that’s okay

Laura Williams

The number of times Poodle says " I...". Jeesh man, let Matty talk!!!

Melissa

2nd time in the last few months commenting for a John Anderson reference. Fucking deceased💀

Dana Tabala

U talked me in to ina’s book! I was debating but I got it!

Lois Molina

I think since Steven was in self sabotaging mode, he may have left his phone out for Monica to see. She mentioned it was a lot of texts so maybe she picked it up?

Ketchup Flynn
>>152044721

Exactly- I have the same beliefs as Ramses, but he’s already listened to her life story and heard be contrite about the choice to enlist as a teen. Again, I emphasize that my beliefs are exactly the same as Ramses, but this is the person you chose to be with and you knew her story? Why shame her?

Dunni
>>152044721

completely agree with you, I share those beliefs. so I wouldn’t get engaged to a veteran, that’s where I think he’s being unfair.

vicky hurley

This is more than a Podcast. Now I understand why I gravitate to yours above the others I follow for reality tv Because this is not just reality tv fun. It’s fun, but I’m deeply enlightened. I know nothing about your professions outside of this but I pray you are child therapists who straighten parents out. You quoted someone who said, “what goes in early goes in deep”. My jaw dropped. Then when you point out the boundaries (the word buddies is spot on!!) Ramses is putting up. Pointing out how he told her it was ok about her military service but now shaming her for it. I understand his side so like you all said his beliefs are fine just don’t pick her. I could go on and on but I hope you know how much you enlighten us to do a double check of ourselves within & how we are effecting those we claim to love. You should have your a duo therapy show breaking it all down. You see where others are blind.

Stefanie Durbano Jensen
>>152044721

He should have established his opinion IN THE PODS! She is deeply entrenched in the military. She comes from a military family, and since the majority of her life experience has taken place in that setting most of her friends are also going to be military. It’s a terrible bait and switch on his part. She was very upfront about her history. He did her so dirty by holding back his real position until they were engaged and deep into the lust-love stage

Stefanie Durbano Jensen
>>152027158

Ramses should have established all these opinions of his in the pods. She was very clear about her long affiliation with the military. He should’ve never drawn her in like this if this is how he really felt.

Stefanie Durbano Jensen
>>151957690

It really reflects his youth and immaturity lots of young people are idealists. They just don’t seem to have enough life experience to understand that the world can’t really function that way. But if America is as evil as he seems to think it is, he should probably move his butt back to Venezuela… Oh wait Venezuela is a shit hole Because they have a horrible government

Stefanie Durbano Jensen
>>151957521

Since the dads are an older generation. I think it is still just a way for a man to establish that he is showing respect for the girls father. I think it’s more of gesture than an actual asking of permission to take possession of the daughter. that said, I don’t think that tradition will be a thing 30 years from now

Dunni
>>152044721

my comment wasn’t really about that. I agree it makes no sense that he willingly chose Marissa knowing everything he knew about her past. my point is that he’s allowed to have those feelings about the military, as many others who have been impacted by US backed wars share the same sentiment. he’s a hypocrite for choosing her and I don’t like him for other aspects of his personality. and I think Marissa is lost herself, she doesn’t seem to know if she’s coming or going when it comes to the brainwashing she said she endured in the military. but she’s also entitled to her own feelings about that. evidently they’re incompatible and I think more of the onus is on him for that

Stefanie Durbano Jensen
>>151951381

Exactly! I think it is really just a gesture to show respect for the parents. No modern man is actually asking for permission to take possession of the daughter. I could see it continuing a little longer in the south than it would in the northwest.

Stefanie Durbano Jensen
>>151948088

Hannah is a responsible person, but an extremely immature person. She needs a partner who won’t be steamrolled. It will help her to learn these life lessons much quicker. You can only put someone down for so long until they really snap. He feels so emasculated at this point because he doesn’t even live on his own,I think that’s why he takes it from her. It’s such a cruel thing to do to a human. Hopefully she’ll grow up and learn that.

Liza Windmoeller
>>152044721

I think most of us have a problem with it because if the US is so terrible then why is he here? Why does he get to reap the benefits of America while bashing the service that lets him continue reaping those benefits. You don’t have to love the military, but you should be mature enough to understand it’s necessary. I don’t understand why that’s hard to understand…without it we wouldn’t be able to live this life. I’m not denying the shit that has happened at the hands of the military (I am Colombian) in other countries, but if that’s the viewpoint then why live here? The military let’s you be safe and free enough to do that. That’s the problem. 🤷🏽‍♀️

Stefanie Durbano Jensen
>>151932537

But it’s not asking permission to take possession of a daughter. It’s just a gesture of respect. It is an old fashioned tradition, but the parents on the show are still from a generation that appreciates the gesture. I doubt it will continue much longer. I think it will last longer in the south because it’s part of the culture.

Liza Windmoeller
>>152044721

That’s unfortunately part of being in the military. So you think other countries militaries are innocent? I do not understand this viewpoint. Don’t live here then if you’re going to insult the people who allow you to reap the benefits of living in this country? That’s hypocritical to me. We need the military. Where would we be without it? No place good. But yet people who “don’t support the troops” apparently won’t ever think that way. Don’t support em until we are at war in our home country. 🫣

Dunni
>>152044721

“if you don’t like it then leave” is exactly what racists say to immigrants and even African Americans. Ramses even shared a quote from James Baldwin about how because he loves America he reserves the right to criticize it. if everybody who had an issue with an aspect of this country was just told to leave every time they criticize it, that doesn’t sound very democratic to me. you’re entitled to your own opinion. I’m just saying everyone is allowed an opinion and having a critical one shouldn’t mean leave the country. and I don’t think he bashed anything, he gave a critique. I’ve heard much more critical things about our military. agree to disagree about the military

Dunni
>>152044721

No I never said other countries militaries are innocent. We have completely different viewpoints. There’s no point arguing or implying either of us is immature or needs to change opinions.

Dunni
>>152044721

“don’t live here then” some people are refugees. Anyways have a great day

jey

stephen is 100% too stupid to not show up at the reunion 🤡

jey
>>151996516

yeah, i’m surprised poodle seems to find it sorta quaint/cute…? did i interpret that right? there are ways to connect with the parents (BOTH IF POSSIBLE) and acknowledge gratitude to them and seek a blessing of some sort, but “asking for your daughter’s hand…” 🥴 that is 1,000% rooted and still steeped in a man owning a woman and letting her belong to another man. i realize it is mostly symbolic these days but why on earth would we want to perpetuate patriarchy with that symbol? there are other ways.

J Moore

Poodle, I went somewhere when you were talking about getting with it in the letterman jacket. Holy moly!

J Moore
>>152116873

You'd probably enjoy listening to old episodes where Poodle and Mattie talk about their background. Mattie has a degree in counseling and Poodle was a life coach as well as many other things. They are both brilliant about the human psyche.

Jenna Rutan

Re: the blessings, my husband and I dated for a long time before we got engaged and he had a good relationship with my family but didn’t ask my dad first. He kinda said something to my dad after apologizing for not asking him and my dad’s response was basically “why does my opinion matter? She’s an adult and the one who has to make the choice - she’s made it. Just make her happy and treat her right”. It’s changing but slowly.

Jessica Grattan
>>151996516

Also frustrates me how the dads get so flattered by the whole man-to-man BS and quickly offer their hand for the shake. It's a horror movie trope at this stage.

Jessica Grattan
>>151976986

Definitely, the problem lies with those who do not clear timers not us angels who clear timers so we can see our little clocks again. ✊🏼

Jessica Grattan

When Stephen got up from the couch when he and Monica were terminating things I really thought he was gonna say "well I definitely don't have to listen to this shit" but maybe he caught himself ....maybe because he is good at covering stuff up. I have to have another peak at that scene.

Gemma Ryhanen
>>152103554

Guys who cheat have that phone on them at all times. No way he’d leave it out willy nilly by mistake

Gemma Ryhanen
>>152103554

I think he wanted out but also wanted the passive aggressive chance to show him he’s desirable & his kinks

Gemma Ryhanen
>>151991504

As someone who runs my roomba daily it seemed normal to me but I have kids so - crumbs.

Carissa

Omg the substance was so good! I saw it with a bunch of elderly people and I was so surprised they didn’t walk out lol

Sharla Clark Bullard

Stephen’s demeanor when he kept saying “you’re right” reminded me of a drug addict/pathological liar who I dated once. I didn’t know about the drugs until later, and it wouldn’t surprise me if he is on pills.

Holly

Marshall (LIB Season 4) warned us about DC 🤣🤣🤣

Becca Horsley

I was watching episode 8 with MY 75-YO MOTHER 🤢 Mom and I have watched the whole season up till now and many seasons of the 90 Day Universe, but Thanks, Stephen for the most uncomfortable 5 minutes of television I've ever watched with her.

Hannah Goralewicz

My dad hates the asking permission for marriage and walking the daughter down the aisle.

Megan

Re the Ramses stuff: I’m a military spouse- I met my husband late 20s and was raised in a house that respected military and police (🙄)- I’ve always been liberal and my husband passed all my “tests” about things that were important to me (abortion/death penalty, welfare etc) .., now my husband is 2 years from retirement and it’s scary? Idk what I would do if I thought he was helping deliver weapons to Israel. So I understand what it’s like to not want to sign up for this right now. Military life sucks for a liberal spouse even when genocide isn’t on the table. Alsooo I would do anything for my kids to not serve. Despite generations serving and my husband actively deployed right now.

Martin Schleker

I don’t think Ramses is a terrible person for having a moral problem with the military. On the contrary. I understand very well where he’s coming from. I always found that US Americans have a disturbingly uncritical relationship with their military, even very progressive ones. They seem to have massive blind spots for the devastation American bombs and soldiers have wrought in other places in the world. It’s weird to see American exceptionalism play out here like that.

Caroline Dickie

Oh my god I HATE when the microwave timer isn’t cleared! My husband leaves it that way, it’ll be like 2 seconds left and why didn’t he just let it run?? Or clear it?? wtf? It makes me so annoyed!

Marisa
>>151951643

Renee from season 5 countersued them for this very reason. Same with Trang from season 5 (which is why they were both cut from the show)

Kimberly Saginario
>>152352717

If my daughter’s future fiancé said to her it’s not your dads decision it’s yours I would be so happy

Tara Daktyl
>>152027158

It's not shaming someone to express your feelings about something that has been deeply impacting to the lives of you, your loved ones, and your country of origin.

Tara Daktyl
>>151957690

This whole conversation would be different if mandatory conscription were a thing in the US. But it's not. So, along with all the glory and praise the military receives, they also must accept their complicity and responsibility that comes with the *choice* to enlist.

Liza Windmoeller
>>151957690

I never said they didn’t? My point remains though, without anyone choosing to enlist our country (I have no idea where you’re from) would be in very bad shape. Like I already stated, of course there’s plenty of thing the US has fucked up and gotten wrong, and do I support everything we stick our nose in? No. B it without the military protecting us it would be a very different story. Which I’m sorry in my opinion, demands respect. 🤷🏽‍♀️ that’s my opinion and stance. You’re free to have your own.

Sinead Birmingham

I’ve always swung between being a Matty or a Poodle. Then tonight my suspicions were confirmed. I too cannot live in a household where the microwave timer is not cleared. It’s such a lazy signifier to leave the microwave on pause, you leave things unfinished. I’m not the bad poodle bitch I wish to be but the mattbrador I love.