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By far the heaviest Monogatari episode I've ever seen

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Ash

Hanekawa's common sense is literally a superpower at this point

KenZerk

Seduction itself isn’t sexual. Sodachi humbling herself and playing the sweet innocent girl so Araragi would help save her is a form of seduction even if there’s no romantic or sexual intentions behind it. Seduction is just using what you have to convince someone to do what you want. Offering someone food so that they’ll give you a ride home is also a form of seduction. Just replace “my body” with the food and “sex” with a ride home. Get what you want by tempting them with what you have

Skeletan

So many points to make here... 1. "If she wants to go back then she wants to go back, it is what it is." Say you don't care and don't wanna engage with the story without saying you don't care and don't want to enage with the story lol 2. The swelling on her cheek, which was highlighted several times, is the reason why she can't say his name, since the swelling *inside* of her cheek keeps getting in the way of her pronouncing it. 3. "I think she's just being nice ma'am." No shit lmao she's being *intentionally* straight forward, not that she's incapable of seeing what Hanekawa's doing, she's telling Hanekawa here to drop the formalities since she's not in the mood to 'play nice'. 4. "Did she get beat by her parents again?" ... The ENTIRE SCENE up until this point was Oikura talking about how she should press charges Against Senjougahara for punching her via the SWELLING on her cheek. 5. "According to YOU!" My man, over the past 5 episodes every single character has remarked how their relationship is very poor, with Araragi going through a therapy session with Ougi to figure out *why* their relationship IS exceptionally bad. 6. "I don't remember her having reflexes like that!" You could say she almost had... *Cat-like* reflexes? That being the case, it's almost impossible to take what she says at face value for that, more likely she's coming up with a plausible excuse after-the-fact. 7. "She just wanted to SMASH! God, why was I overthinking it! Thinking about it, it didn't even make sense! I had a feeling that was probably the case, I mean the mental trauma is still a thing." ... She literally says '-into helping me' while you were going on that triad, which paints your view of the conversation with the wrong colours unfortunately. This all said, the core of the message still came through. This is absolutely one of the best arcs in Monogatari up to this point, even if the subtler details are hard to parse. I mentioned earlier that the initial reaction was poor, and instead of just saying it and leaving it, I'd be a bit more specific. If I had to provide a more broad reason on the other hand, I'd say it's because your first instinct is to openly disrespect characters and their actions even when the overarching narrative is asking you to challenge that perspective. I know this all seems high and mighty, or hella obnoxious, but it's a genuine message. It's a common pitfall I've seen of many reactors, but that kind of reaction style tends to attract the worst kind of fans, meanwhile you're currently watching some Oldhead ass anime and stuff that is highly appreciated for it's artistic value and philosophical approaches to the human condition. I'm still subbed, and I'll keep paying you money to see your reactions, since they are fun, but also interesting to see your perspective when you get serious about the topics discussed and shown.

rbgtalk

yeah you've been giving "backseat driver" lately with your comments and it's pissing me the fuck off.

rbgtalk

"Say you don't care and don't wanna engage with the story without saying you don't care and don't want to enage with the story lol" Actually shut the fuck up, if I truly did not want to engage with the monogatari story, I would have stopped the show completely. I'd wouldn't be sitting my ass down and spending hours every week reacting to it. Am I gonna get everything right? No, and I've said time and time again, I'm not a smart guy, I'm trying my BEST, in watching a show like this, forgive me for not getting every single goddamn detail correct on my first time watching this show. I'll be real bro, your attitude has started ruining my experience with Monogatari, and I'd rather you straight up leave than see your pompous ass here even if you do pay me money.

Ashamdon

I agree, i thought sodachi's arc(s) was the best in the series. The writing is peak, the character is grey (quite literally lol), there is a constant mystery in the air that keeps you guessing and cleverly misdirects you without actually lying to you. Watching it a second time, i pick up a lot of the hints that i might have missed before as well. I might not have any exerience with situations like her's, thankfully, but it feels brutally realistic to me. As a piece of art it is beautiful and horrifying at the same time