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Little Help! (Patreon)

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2024-02-09 23:09:26
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2024-02-09 23:10:40
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Let's see if this works.Okay, having an animated discussion with. my Audio Person and Audio Editor. 

We're working on the narrated version of the book and having a disagreement about which pause between sections feels better.I'm not going to say which one of us prefers which one of the pauses, but if you have a minute or two, what do you think?The first one is a bit shorter. The second one a bit longer. 

We don't often disagree on things, but this one we keep coming back to. 

I can't seem to number them. So first one is Shorter Pause. Second one is Longer Pause. 

Very curious what everyone thinks/feels! 

XO, 

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Andy McLellan

Long! I am probably biased though as I use long pauses to break up sections on my own recordings. I think they work well to demonstrate that.

Daniel

OK, so I listen to them both three times. And pacing wise I’m thinking about how I listen to audible. And I have had a few books where the gap between what feels like chapters or paragraphs is just way too short… That being said, listening to these either one would work pretty well, but I’m leaning towards I like the short version better. The difference is not very significant between the two of them to my ears. But it’s also 8 o’clock in the morning and I’ve only had 2 cups of coffee so I’ll give it a listen again this evening, and if I change my mind, I’ll say so. So I’m saying version one is my preference at 8:16 in the morning.

Gina Carter

I prefer the short one although it’s not an overwhelming difference. I don’t have any in depth reasoning, it just flows better it my ear haha

Paul Biba

Shorter! Long pauses let one's mind wander and also makes things a bit boring. They also slow down the narrative and drag things out. Long pauses should be used only for dramatic effect, in my view. In the end, there is not much of a difference here and either would work fine.

Eilís Phillips

I'm leaning towards long, but honestly I barely noticed a difference. Both versions sounded natural and soothing on the ears!

William Waggoner

Both my wife and I think the shorter is better. She says definitely the short one, I am not as strongly opined. Either work for me but the shorter seems more “comfortable.”

caimar

I think the shorter one gets my vote, but to be honest, I can't tell much of a difference, especially after I repeated them each a few times. But the first time I listened, the longer one felt like I waited just a split second too long, I actually looked down to make sure I hadn't accidentally paused it and then heard you speaking again.

Meghan Goff

I definitely prefer the shorter.

Uncanny Japan -- Thersa Matsuura

It is absolutely amazing how any little thing changes our perception. Richard and I have been really into 'consciousness' these days. So this is so interesting to me. Like, when we were on our walks it totally changes as the local school had a bunch of kids out running laps around the river and just sort of messed up our timing. Fascinating and jots down: Dan is shorter version with the note, only two cups of coffee and 8:16 am. TY!

Uncanny Japan -- Thersa Matsuura

Oh, good, I can reply to my own post. Awesome! Thank you all so much. It probably is a niggling issue and in the end it'll be Simon and Schuster's head audio editor who makes the final decision (perhaps? do they really want to go in and change everything?)

Curt Fukuda

Hi Thersa, I prefer the shorter. But, that's really splltting hairs. Both are fine.

Bill Simpson

So it's interesting: Jenn was able to say 'shorter' almost immediately (she's listening over my shoulder), but I'm having a harder time deciding. Neither particularly rankles me or has me going either "Pick up the pace!" or "Slow down!" In an attempt to be actually HELPFUL in providing an opinion, if I was forced to choose, then I'd go with the shorter one, just to keep things moving apace. That said, I'm not sure if my opinion were different if I were listening to entry and entry after entry at one time, in which case a little more of a pause might be a refreshing, momentary breather. Have I confused things yet?

St Andrew

Frankly can barely tell the difference— both are completely fine. But I think short feels a bit better, if I HAD to choose. Not short enough to feel hurried, but not long enough to get the listener stir-crazy.

Japon Burabura

Subtle, but the short pause gets my vote. One suggestion out of the box since some of the pauses seem related to some kind of entries /categories that we would find in italic, bold or underlined in a printed dictionary, how about placing a one split of a second jingle instead of a pause to "categorize" the word sequence to come as the audio equivalent of a printed BOLD. My two cents... 😅

SuzyGen

Yes, I listened a couple of times, and prefer the shorter one as well.

Uncanny Japan -- Thersa Matsuura

I was listening to Rick Ruben's audio book (The Creative Act) and he uses a wonderfully relaxing gong of a bell between short chapters/sections. I'm not sure what the 'rules' are for the books in this series, if that's allowed or not. I can ask!

Michael Fieser

Okay, it's not out of spite, but I'm going to be the contrarian... I prefer the LONGER pause. When reading the text there would be no confusion, but when listening the SHORT pause almost "feels" like a comma and the LONGER pause is a full stop.

Jae Steinbacher

I prefer the longer one, feels more like a break.

Stanley Santos

I like the long pause, which gives me a bit more time to absorb

Uncanny Japan -- Thersa Matsuura

I'm happy for the differing opinions! Not to win or not win the debate but it further blows my mind. One thing that might not come through with that tiny sample is that I'm a slow ass reader. Each chapter starts with the beginning title (sample) then the Overview (about 300 words) then a Background and Popular Stories (little bit longer with some tale about the character, too) then a In Modern Stories (a couple places they're found today). Sometimes the topic changes really quickly between those, or feels like it, Wait! wasn't she just talking about the history of the binbogami then suddenly, "Have you ever known someone...?" Where did that come from? So it might also feel different depending on how smooth the transition word-wise is.

Sherry Derda

Prefer the shorter version. It has a smoother rhythm.

Marit Hickman

The long pause makes it clear that we've moved on to a subsection

Heather Holland

I don't notice much of a difference when not paying strict attention

Dave Astels

I found the difference very noticeable and greatly prefer the short pause.

Daniel

So I listen to it again this evening… I’m gonna go: I am more strongly liking the short pauses. After a day of adventures around Okinawa. I do like reading everyone else’s responses. They are well thought out and it’s amazing to see the group give you such good feedback. Short pauses.

Asa

Long pause in this sample for me, rhythmically. Sounds logical, what you said about different transitions feeling different. So maybe the timing can vary a bit depending on degree of transition, or intended impact. Harmonious proportion with the pause between chapters might be relevant too?

Sebastian Walker

I prefer the shorter pause as it maintains momentum in my listening but personally I do not find the longer one disagreeable either.

Brad Thornborrow

I’m glad you said it, as I prefer the longer pause, assuming I’m listening at 1.1 or 1.2x overall…. ツ

Liv Rainey-Smith

I prefer the shorter pause, but neither is bad. The long pause isn't enough to make me wonder if something went wrong with the recording.

Elena

Both sound good to me. I didn’t notice a huge difference, but that said, I think I prefer the shorter one.

AimbotFragpants

I love the way you read, please don’t change that. Just saw one of your answers here about being a slow ass reader. It’s perfect 👍 I’m tired but listened to the begining 4 times each. It is not super obvious to me. But I might have noticed a slight increase of speed. I can’t choose. I go with slow!