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Hey Peaches! Mystery is afoot! This is our first Knives Out movie we've covered and it's a doozy. How does a man get murdered in a room with only one entrance and no one else in it? Get your notebooks, magnify glasses, and some snacks cause we're not leaving until we've solved this case.

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Rowan C

I need you guys to know how not normal I am about this movie. I was raised Catholic and this movie hit something in my shriveled cynical soul that has just latched on and refused to let go. I've re-watched it like 5 times and am working on a breakdown of the film through the lens of how the Second Vatican Council marks an ideological shift in the Catholic Church that is reflected by Wicks and Jud. Though Wicks admittedly has created a cult dressed like hyper-conservative Catholicism.

B C

Poor Adam, at one point just being relegated to blurry background because Jay was so on edge of his seat that he made the camera refocus too far forward! Haha!

joka

Fun and beautiful tidbit, spoilers if you haven't watched the movie yet I suppose: At the end, the new name of the church is perpetual grace (the daughter's name) instead of perpetual fortitude. You can see it on the sign as blanc is leaving at the end.

GonzoTheGreat

At first I thought it was recency bias, but after going back to the original Knives Out I think this movie is my favorite one so far. For all the reasons Jay said, the theming is SO good.

Shinigamiinochi

I absolutely loved this movie. I liked Glass Onion, too, but it felt like such a departure from Knives Out. I love the mystery stuff, but what turned Knives Out from a great mystery to one of my favorite movies is there was so much heart in it. While there was some of that with Andy's sister in Glass Onion, it was more over the top and goofy with the cast of characters and mystery itself. This felt more like a return of the first film where the mystery is great, but at its core, the story is about kindness and genuine connection. I still like Knives Out more just because it felt more like a traditional mystery novel, but I was so happy with how Wake Up Dead Man came out (and this coming from someone who was raised in the UCC and became agnostic)

Ravenbythesea

I'm not christian/catholic or american but even so this movie hit so hard I've been rewatching it since it came out. I fully understand the main complaints being about how most suspects were too background, or that the Wicks were "comically evil" but in today's world where people like that openly exist and where the themes of this movie were definitely more important than the whodunnit? I think these were good choices. As Jud said, making a game out of seeing who did it and how it was done instead of focusing on the people involved drives away compassion for others, understanding and kindness instead of making a spectacle. I also love that Blanc did not go to the mass afterwards, that that expectation was not put on him. I love the background story of Blanc's religious trauma with being a gay man in southern usa with a hyper religious mum who died hating him, and his quiet moment listening to Jud talk to Louise. I'm a gay person without religious trauma as I'm not from a religious background, but I have a lot of friends in the usa who've lived that experience. This movie is beautiful again by saying "thats not what faith should be" that that loud hatred drowns out the love and understanding that should be there.

Drakoni

This movie is brilliant, so glad you watched it. What a way of portraying the problematic ways of the institution of the church and how it gets misused, while also showing the purpose and power of faith. As all Blanc movies, it's very unsubtle about it's references to current times, and that's on purpose. Highly recommend watching interviews and analysies of Rian Johnson. Putting the two polar opposites Jud and Blanc in one room, having proper discussions about each other's views, all without hate, working with each other, both learning something about each other, without needing one to "change" the other. But treat each other with respect. And then that scene with Louise being the perfect turning point for the story and characters. I've already written novels on all the cinematographic elements on Discord. The lighting especially and the use of zooms. So good, give us 20 more of these. And trying to solve it is still part of the fun of watching that. Saw it with my mom, we both guessed different elements right but no way to guess the full picture. Still, on a rewatch, they did play it all fair. It's only misdirection, everything is in the open. 10/10 incredible suits Blanc wore throughout this movie

Eileen

One detail I only just noticed is the name change to “Our Lady of Perpetual Grace” a nice tribute. Content warning SA for the rest of my comment related to some analogies and theories - Also, I saw a theory online about Grace’s backstory. At the end when he is explaining what happened, Benoit calls the crypt the tomb of Wicks’s father. Could just be what you say about elder relatives, or Grace could have been a victim of abuse at a young age at the hands of her father. Hence some behaviors and the propaganda against her, the no-story absent father of wicks, etc., on top of what could have been a grooming attempt by grandpa wicks to Martha. Who knows if that’s even remotely intended, but adds an additional complicated and upsetting layer to Grace, Martha, and Martha’s realization at the end of her life that she harbored this bitter hatred against a victim. Also now that I am thinking more about it - if we assume Grace is mirroring an alternate Mary with Wicks as a false Jesus figure, is grandpa wicks who haunts the narrative throughout, the God figure in the story? Mary’s immaculate conception of Jesus at the hands of God.

Eileen

I was raised Catholic in New England, and am now agnostic and consider myself “culturally Catholic” for the bit mostly — my only critique of the movie is that I feel Wicks is more an example in my mind of the mega church extreme pastors. (It’s anecdotal but in my circles of family and friends we’ve never had or I’ve never heard of priests who were that extreme or militant.) However, I can overlook it for the use of the moody, Catholic aesthetics and vibe lolol

Tay Schumaker

Like Jay, I got a little emotional when watching this in the theater. Josh O’Connor’s performance was incredible to me. This might be my favorite of the 3

Chris K

Loved your reactions - I was equally enraptured the first time. I recommend watching it again, as it rewards repeated viewing. You start noticing all the little details Rian Johnson sprinkled in everywhere. Like, how Jud didn't lie to Cy at the end. "Your real inheritance is in Christ," eh? That scene with Louise is now one of my favorite movie scenes of all time. The way she starts off as a joke character and then becomes a full human being, showing how necessary religion can be when done correctly, like with a person such as Father Jud. Beautiful stuff.

Leosol

Both of my parents were Presbyterian ministers, both brilliant, kind, generous people. They both passed in 2024, both at the age of 70. I couldnt be more confident that they both would have adored this movie. They both committed their lives to caring for people through faith and ministry. No judgment, no dogma, just pure generosity and love. As an athiest I struggled for a long time to fully understand how two such brilliant people could commit so much to such a flawed system. I eventually realized it was just, about helping people, genuinely and selflessly helping. I'm very sad they didnt get to see this movie, but I'm so glad to see such a good representation of what they lived their lives for, and I love seeing it touch people in a real way.