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Discord and SUMtitles (Patreon)

Published:
2022-01-06 15:13:59
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2022-01

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For a while now I've not been able to have automatic captions on my videos. You can see me complain about it on twitter but the short version is that YouTube support have no idea why they don't appear and they don't plan to do anything about it. https://twitter.com/standupmaths/status/1467520689917739009

However, I do want captions as they are useful for a host of accessibility reasons. Which means I need a manual system. (And that's probably much better for videos with so much technical language anyway.)

There are services I could pay to transcribe the videos, but I'd be worried about all the mathematical terminology being correct. Plus I'd be using your money to do that, so I thought I might skip the middleperson and see if Patreon people would like to help caption soon-to-be-released videos.

To that end we've started a Stand-up Maths Discord server. Only open to Patreon supporters there are some general channels because why not, and one private channel for people who want to work on subtitles. Come get involved! https://discord.gg/hjv5BCU96nPS I don't know exactly how the caption-writing logistics will work, but we can sort that out as we go. You'll see my camera-person/editor Alex in there taking the reins. And if there is not enough interest, or it becomes too onerous, we'll switch to me paying a transcribing service.

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Comments

Thomas N Wyndham

Properly bums me out how little care there is for subtitles. Recently my wife and I went to the cinema to see Spider-Man, her favourite Marvel character. Because she’s deaf, she uses a captioning device provided by the cinema. It’s a little black box with a simple screen on it on a long flexible stand that sits in the cup holder, and connects to the theatre wirelessly to provide the captions. As soon as the film started I realised it wasn’t working, and ran out to get another one. The replacement one didn’t work either. Eventually we convinced the manager to give us a refund after seeing only a few moments of the film. Similar thing happened years ago, first captioner had a flat battery, the second one wouldn’t connect, and the third had a flat battery. Absolutely heartbreaking both times. YouTube’s attitude here properly stinks, ignoring the problem and hoping it goes away is appalling.

Peggy Youell

Cool! I signed up--I did a bunch of English captioning for James Grime's videos, so I've gotten pretty good at figuring out the mathematical terminology.

Nyx Furry

Hello, small questions, I'ld like to test some of the subtitl feature provided by aws on myself, it would be a nice opportunity for me to review the feature.Would you allow to test it on a few videos and give complete review?

François Guerraz

I recommend AWS transcribe, it's cheap (in the order of 1$ for an hour of transcription) and, more importantly, you can improve the transcription by adding domain specific vocabulary, and even better if you can be bothered to get more involved, provide your own training dataset so that it's tailored to your particular needs. Pricing information is here https://aws.amazon.com/transcribe/pricing/ and you pay for what you use only, no upfront costs.

John Bevan

Are you open to tech support from the community for this one? If so, can you share screenshots of your caption/subtitle/translation settings so we can see what's already been set/tried to avoid people giving you the same suggestions repeatedly? https://studio.youtube.com/channel/ > Settings > Upload Defaults > Advanced Also, do you have some videos on which captions do work? If so, can you compare what you see for those under https://studio.youtube.com/channel/ > Subtitles with a video without captions? Can you try setting the language of the video that's lacking captions to enable them on that video? If going with community submitted captions is the best way forwards, one option may be to use a free auto-transcription service to create the initial captions, then have people submit corrections; cutting down the effort. It would probably be possible to create a workflow; e.g. have a video being uploaded call a webhook in GitHubActions whick kicks off a transcription and submits a new text file in a GitHub repo for this video; then applies those captions to YouTube via its API. Any issues with the captions could then be submitted to that repo as pull requests; and when you merge those it could automatically update the video's captions with the merged request. I've not looked into this in detail; but the tech's there, so should be possible...

standupmaths

Good suggestion. I'll bring it up in the Discord as I'm happy to pay for any tools which will help.

ViliamF

Something like WHUTS project would be great for this. The subtitles should be at least double checked by independent people, and some sanity check through Google translate (Google's translator itself is partially based on community translations. If the translations look like they are good, and not trolling, then that's a good and simple sanity check. If someone trolls it and writes random words, then it should be clear from the difference with Google's translation.)

Parrik

Woohoo

Magnasium

Oh yes, I definitely want to try contributing to this. I wanted to caption YouTube videos recently, but was sad to see they removed the option for general audience to submit

Scott Myers

If you have a script, that helps. I write a script fFor my videos, and use that as the subtitles. I think you stray fFrom your script somewhat, and sometimes a lot, probably, but it's a starting place.

Karim Maassen

Willing to contribute to the Dutch translations. However, I can't seem to register to Discord? (Invite invalid it says)

J. S. B.

Matt would NEVER STRAY FROM A SCRIPT! What madness is this?! Hahaha

LordLoki

Maybe you have to link your patreon with discord first.

Henrik Christian Grove

Just want to mention it: discord is a proprietary piece of shit. Might have contributed to the Danish translations if you used something free.

John Sawyer

Not sure what you mean Henrik. You click on the link the discussion opens in your browser and you don't have to pay for anything? So maybe no free in the Richard Stallman sense but certainly free in the I don't pay a penny to get involved sense.

Henrik Christian Grove

I said nothing about price, it's the lack of freedom (as in free speech) in the "solution" that is the problem. (And I hate the trend of making everything run in my browser).