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Livestream platform opinions? (Patreon)

Published:
2023-03-18 11:47:33
Imported:
2023-03

Poll

Livestream platform opinions?

  • YouTube "mattparker2" second channel 376
  • Twitch dedicated Stand-up Maths account 53
  • No opinion - will watch on either 100
  • No opinion - not going to watch either way 44
  • 2023-03-18
  • 573 votes
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Content

I'm planning on building a shape for the Polyplane project a friend is running. http://polyplane.org/I thought it would be fun to livestream the process and get suggestions from viewers. My default is to livestream on my second YouTube channel but occurred to me that may not be the best option and I should use Twitch. So I thought I'd ask you all: in general, where would you rather I do silly livestreams?

If there are other options put them in a comment!

Comments

Chris L

There are ways to do both at the same time. Though from what I understand, if you do stream both at the same time Twitch will not let you get subscribers. To get the subscriber button on Twitch, you have to agree to be twitch exclusive.

Sebastian Grus

Since you're already established on youtube, I think you should use its streaming service instead of splitting your content to another platform

Karim Maassen

I can’t get myself going to Twitch. Despite the fact I know a lot of my favorite Youtubers regularly stream there. I’d much rather watch the Youtube summary afterwards, or - when I find the time - go live on Youtube.

Alien Valkyrie

YT allows viewers to rewind to earlier parts of the stream, as well as to watch those parts back at higher speeds in order to catch up without missing anything (e.g. after joining late or losing connection for a bit); so unless you're planning to actually make use of things Twitch offers, YT is almost certainly the better choice.

Stefan Nikolov

I am actively avoiding Twitch. And TikTok

Toby Archer

It's nice that you offer a 'don't know, don't care' option. That's probably what I'd choose if I thought my opinion mattered enough.

Marcel Bro

I don't mind Twitch but don't see any benefit, so would stick with YouTube.

Better&Better

Twitch is SO much better, in terms of the quality of audience that most people get, but especially as a moderator the moderator tools are so much better on Twitch. the "audience quality" issue will be insignificant if it's only available to Patrons, and therefore moderator tools would be less necessary as well. perhaps in general your videos don't attract audience members of a lesser quality being that the topic is typically math related. Deep Astronomy however (which I'm a moderator for) attracts a lot of the religious/aliens/flat-earth/conspiracy types. as a non-moderating viewer, YouTube can be a little more convenient, but if the audience is too big and the chat is going too fast, then it feels pointless to even join the chat, and in that case I definitely prefer Twitch. it is possible to use a service like Restream to stream to both, but if you've never used it then there's some setup required and you should do a test stream ahead of time, and of course Twitch prefers that people don't do that, and streamers can lose their partnership by doing it.

werdwerdus

there is no longer an exclusivity agreement for twitch. so it would be best to use something like restream.io and do a multicast on both twitch and YouTube

werdwerdus

the exclusivity requirement was removed last year on twitch. so best to do multicast through restream or something imo

Chris L

Good to know! My information was coming from a streamer who uses restream, and he said he couldn't because of exclusivity. I'll have to let him know next time I tune into his stream!

PHAZE

If you are not planning on a regular schedule and getting into the bits and bobs of streamer culture: Youtube. It reaches your existing audience easily. If you want to actually be a streamer of sorts, and do streamer things on a regular basis: Twitch. It's tools for doing "streamer things" are so much better.

Peggy Youell

I really dislike how slowly the comments show up to the streamer on Twitch. So if you're looking to interact with people in real time, I'd avoid Twitch. But I'll watch, regardless. I'd say do whichever is easiest for you. YouTube will probably pay better on the back end.

Ray Johnston

I am completely happy to watch on either (and that’s what I voted for) but I do think it makes slightly more sense for you to stick to YouTube so people don’t get confused. It’s easier to just think ‘oh all Matt Parker stuff is on YouTube’ rather than having to check what platform you’re using for a certain thing

Will Coleda

Twitch and put VODs on the 2nd YouTube?

Simon Allen

I have voted. No opinion - will watch on either. I am not sure what Twitch is. Having had a look it seems to be gamers showing you what they are doing. Not being a gamer I am probably missing out.

slugbiker

i find twitch better if you want a lot of interactions with the viewers (easier to moderate chat, and easier for viewers to interact with each other and the streamer). but, if you are not seeking a lot of feedback from the viewers during the stream then either would work.

Seth Arnold

I rarely watch live streams from anyone: there's usually a few minutes of "is this working? Comment if you can hear me", long delays between people asking questions and then responses, poor audio and video quality, and low "information density" throughout. I've watched NWSL games on Twitch and the first few games the chat was filled with misogyny. It left me with a very poor impression of the place. Like I said, I'm not really the target audience, but you've built a community on YouTube, that's where it makes the most sense to me.

Lily

I think with something like obs its possible to simulcast, not sure if that is allowed on platform tos - best of both worlds though? But twice the moderation to contend with...

Domotro from Combo Class

I would watch on either, but I think you'd reach the largest audience on the second Youtube channel. Also, if you want them to be available for future viewers, you'd have the ability to directly save the livestreams under that new "live" tab that channels now have, or if you prefer you can process them on Youtube so that they show up under the "videos" tab. I livestream math-related things on Youtube often, so feel free to reach out if you have any questions about the process!

Stephen Maxwell

People keep suggesting "restream to both", but I can't see what the possible advantage is to that. It seems like you'd have to deal with the downsides of both platforms simultaneously, plus the restreaming tech. And tracking two chats at once sounds like a nightmare

Joseph Catrambone

If you should decide to use a second channel, might I propose "mattparker^2". The Parker-squared? I realize it doesn't follow numerically, but sometimes comedy has to take precedence.

Harold De Armas

I almost never watch live due to life getting in the way. I'll probably catch up on YouTube on 2x later on then I get time.

Mitchell

Chat is better on twitch, but the forced ads are awful.

Henrik Skott

I don't watch live except by accident but I do watch the streams afterwards, so either is good for me as long as you upload the stream somewhere on Youtube afterwards.

Sarah Patterson

The second channel already exists as is called Matt Parker 2.