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[PATREON Content of the Day! #1 - Aug 4!] (Patreon)

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2024-08-04 17:49:01
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-- OP 811 - 812 --

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EACB

As revealed this episode, there seem to be a total of 30 Poneglyphs in the world: - 9 Rio Poneglyphs, which are the ones Robin is looking for, and you have to take their contents to Raftel in order to know the "truth of the world" - 4 Road Poneglyphs, which point to Raftel when put together - 17 "Others", whith various information. The one in Fishman Island, which was a letter of apology, is presumably one of these. The one in Skypeia, which told of Poseidon's location, is probably one too. As to the 4 Road Poneglyphs, the location of the fourth one is unknown.

Amphyprion

I'm sorry Baron Tamago i did not catch that the first 3 times. Can you you explain it again? -Jack

chrisis

ep 130 is where robin mentions looking for the "rio" poneglyph which literally just means real lol but she says "it" likes it's only 1 so I guessed oda decided later on it's 9 and not just 1

Waywatcher Fireson

Still (slightly) annoyed by Road instead of Lode in the translations. Lodestones in real life point to magnetic north. The four Lode Poneglyphs "point" to Laugh Tale (<-- no, this is not a spoiler, just a long running Anglicization issue) in a more metaphorical way. Plus we're expected to "first learn about them" on an island called Lodestar. No one translates the island "Roadstar."

ImZeaT

It is Road Poneglyphs and it is Lodestar, one doesn't exclude the other. Lodestar makes sense because every Log Pose will eventually allow you to travel to the island (log poses which are magnetic). Road Poneglyphs make sense because they show you the road to laugh tale (Road to Laugh Tale literally being a booklet series by Shonen Jump), they don't have anything to do with Lodestar apart that you can learn information about all types of poneglyphs there, and they have no connection to anything magnetic, nor tools/instruments like compass, etc. because they themselves don't point to anything they have to be linked to all fours in order to show the path, the way, the road.

Waywatcher Fireson

EDIT: I didn't realize this when I made this post, but "lode" by itself also means way or path, and later came to specifically mean a water route. So, yeah, I'm doubling down harder on it being Lode Poneglyph. You can't just assert "It is Road Poneglyphs" as if it's proven true. Oda has yet to reveal the Romaji for the term, and I doubt he will since we still don't have "Rio" officialized to my knowledge. I'm still going with Lode since they are to be first discovered at Lodestar. I understand the argument for Road, but we learn about both Lodestar and the Lode Poneglyphs together in the manga. I doubt that was an accident since both are prefixed ロード in Japanese. Road to Laugh Tale doesn't Anglicize the Lode Poneglyphs. It'd be an appropriate title regardless of the Poneglyphs themselves. You can make Road work metaphorically, but I think the intent is Lode based on the aforementioned arguments.

Wesley Owens

OK well its a running theme that Oda will use the wrong R or L on purpose to make what something is called more original and we're just supposed to make the connection ourselves. Roguetown vs. Loguetown. Road Poneglyph vs Lode Poneglyph. Linlin vs. Rinrin. Viz using Zolo instead of Zorro. Other examples I can't really mention at this point in the story. In japanese the sound for R and L are exactly the same, there is no distinction and the untrained japanese ear won't hear a distinction just like native english speakers will not hear the difference between the different T sounds in arabic or the difference between "he" and "she" in Chinese Mandarin. Every language has sounds that only native speakers can hear until the non-native speaker practices trying to hear it so in manga/anime they don't really care about the difference between R and L but Oda uses it strategically sometimes to give his names double meanings.

Waywatcher Fireson

You say Oda will do it on purpose and then provide examples that do not demonstrate your point. Loguetown is derived from the "Logue" in "Prologue." It's not described as a town of thieves or criminals, but a town of beginnings and endings: i.e. prologue, epilogue. Loguetown. The intention is clear as day. The only example I can think of in your case is Arabasta/Alabasta, where a mixed pun on Arabia and alabaster is intended. But this is the only time where it seems intentional, as both Oda and Toei are inconsistent about its Anglicization. Zoro/Zolo is a Viz issue, and has nothing to do with Oda. Lode seems to be the clear intention since it was introduced with Lodestar. Be very careful about head-canon-ing Oda. The only thing I will grant is that "the way to Laugh Tale" does fit with both Lode and Road. I still believe corroborating evidence points to Lode being the intention though.

DiamonDust

That's not really an objective translation mistake as far as I can tell. In Japanese it is spelled the same way both ways, so you could interpret it as either. The official translation is just "road" though I'm unsure if there is a reason for that or if its just the translators guessing. Either way "road" can mean the road to Laugh Tale so it makes just as much sense as your suggestion imo. You could also assume that it could be wordplay and either is correct, Oda likes his double meanings.