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Fortune Lekoto

I’mma just say it, regardless of the all hype this episode showed us, I think it's obvious that anime Gohan is not as strong as SSJ Blue Goku and he is nowhere near that level at this point in time, at best he around his Buu Saga levels of power or slightly above that, but TOEI ANIMATION has a recurring bad habit of using Goku’s strongest forms to try and unrealistically hype up a character’s return/power level, but then immediately after that TOEI will correct themselves and properly power scale the characters, and this bad habit throws off the fandom when they have their usual power scaling debates, but I will admit though, it was nice seeing my boy Gohan back in proper form and action, he was scary this episode

Fortune Lekoto

I feel bad for Tien man, he was getting violated these past 2 episodes by Master Roshi and Gohan, Tien must have bullied or done something to Gohan as a kid because damn !! Gohan was giving him hands😂😂

Fortune Lekoto

“I have a new goal now, an ultimate form that no Saiyan has achieved before, and I’m gonna puruse this form, by going down a different path” I love this line from this episode, it sounds somewhat deep ,and makes sense, I much prefer this episode dialogue over the alternate dialogue which was…….. “ I chose to keep evolving as a Human, not a Saiyan. I’m not relying on my Saiyan blood anymore”, now this line sounds somewhat deep, but it does not make any sense

Matthew Cunningham

But in fairness your comment also doesn't really help the conversation because it's Purley based on opinion aswell, saying " I don't care what this episode showed us" is literally you saying you want to ignore what was shown based on your own opinion which is fine I guess but my opinion is that gohan deffos isn't as strong as ssjblue but he is way way above the kevel he was when he fought buu, I think it's also pretty clear that within this episode goku wasn't going all out in ssjblue and went kaioken just to see gohans fighting spirit, again this is another opinion right? Sooo it's actually us who confuse the power scaling conversation and that's cool since it's light hearted and fun to talk about as long as everyone remains mature you know.

Carter Schunk

Gotta love universe 10's team of Heisutens 😂

Fortune Lekoto

oh my friend it's not that I don't care what this episode showed us, I genuinely enjoyed this episode and the fights whole heartedly, it's episodes like these that make me feel like a little kid, I'm just pointing out a bad habit that TOEI always does that bothers me

Fortune Lekoto

that one dude was giving me Hulk Hogan vibes

Sam Brown

Goku using SSB isn’t a power scaling issue at all; as they’ve said so many times in the show SSB is great at ki control, which allows Goku to fluctuate between power levels more freely. Going to SSB or even God isn’t a linear power boost like every other Saiyan transformation is.

Fortune Lekoto

Gohan was giving me Cell Saga vibes this episode, because when he was in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber training with Goku he was demanding that Goku turn Super Saiyan and attack him going all out, just like in this episode, and Jack pulling out the controller for the beam struggle killed me😂😂

Fortune Lekoto

oh yeah I know, they've repeatedly said that SSJ Blue basically revolves around perfect energy control, so Goku can calibrate his power levels accurately in this form, but I feel like TOEI abuses this concept a lot

Zeee

I love this episode

Hobbz

Whilst it's called the tournament of power, it's not just raw power that we need. Weaker characters like Roshi, Krillin and Tien have battle experience and unique skills that can be used intelligently to overcome more powerful enemies. A prime example was when Krillin ringed out Gohan a few episodes ago with skills and technique.

Conor Murphy

I still kinda hate how much they closed the gap between Goku/Vegeta and all the other characters with barely any real explanation. Krillin and tien and even the androids shouldn’t even be on the same team as Goku and all the “fights” in the last few episodes feel more like fanservice than actually seeing who can be in the tournament.

Conor Murphy

Uh huh I’m sure the tournament won’t just come down to who has the most raw power or anything

chrisis

Exactly lol super takes some LEAPSSS to keep it going

Smiling Saiyan

So happy to watch another banger with you again bro! :)

Santzu

Wdym shouldn't be on the same team? They obviously aren't as strong as Goku and Vegeta but they still need 10 fighters

DiamonDust

This is untrue saying it was "Toei". This episodes events are canon because this is not an adaptation. The Super anime was made prior to the manga and was made with the guidance and approval of Toriyama, he wrote the overall plot. There are two separate canons for the anime and manga cause Toriyama was involved in both of them, like parallel universes in a sense. I don't know how he was in the manga, but in the anime canon Gohan at this point is implied to be in the ballpark of SSJB Goku in power based on this episode. Whether you like it or dislike it, that's how it is. It's really not that ridiculous either considering in the Cell arc Gohan at such a young age achieved SSJ2 and vastly exceeded Goku in power at that time. Gohan of all people has the capacity to surpass everyone else. It is not strange for him to be showing his latent power once again and achieving deity levels of strength after being pushed to his limits by Piccolo and Goku. I don't know why that would even annoy people since Gohan still got rolled by SSJB Kaoi Ken Goku in one strike, he is still far below Goku and Vegeta's level. Matching Goku in SSJB form is not that wild, SSJB level of power gets met or supassed by a decent amount of fighters in the ToP and it's not as rare by that point.

DiamonDust

I think both are good. It makes perfect sense to me. Gohan is half human, half saiyan. He is saying he will achieve forms and power that are unrelated to saiyan transformations rather than just go for SSJ Blue which he may see as copying his father rather than achieving his own new power.

DiamonDust

@Connor Murphy It wasn't just raw power. Even the weaker fighters can take out other fighters which saves the stamina and energy of the heavy hitters like Goku and Vegeta and prevented them from being ganged up on when they needed to focus on the strongest warriors.

DiamonDust

Bro, there were not other options for teammates unless you are suggesting they invent new Universe 7 characters out of thin air last minute (which is far worse). Also "closed the gap" is a huge exaggeration. Idk if you have finished the ToP, but the gap is still very wide between Goku/Vegeta and the others. Making characters stronger so they can some relevancy is good writing, idk why people just want to see Goku defeat everyone else as a one man army, that is boring as hell.