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Thanks to Nat, Ryan Schaap (Hardest Podcast to Podcast) joins us to discuss one of the best new nu-metal offerings we have, the great "I Let It In..." by Loathe. We get into how being shaped by Deftones and early Slipknot probably makes for a great formula, why stuff like this is getting popular now, and since Ryan hosts a White Stripes podcast, we also talk a lot about the nu-metal-to-indie-rock pipeline.