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We've been quietly demonetized (Patreon)

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2020-01-07 02:47:26
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I'll have a little video up in a moment but thank you all for making this a deep, deep headache and not a complete disaster.



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Paul

Guys, I am terribly sorry.

Alex

Wow. Lots of words that don’t mean what YouTube thinks they mean.

Gary Newman

That stinks. Sincere apologies.

Lockerus

Yeesh, YouTube really is just the worst isn't it? Yours is the type of channel it should be celebrating as it shows the strength of the platform: creator driven, well researched deep dives into an aspect of knowledge that you really can't easily access elsewhere. Instead because it has scary guns (your show is about as family friendly as it comes, otherwise) that frighten advertisers, you get demonetized. Glad to have been a supporter of the show to help with these kinds of curveballs from YouTube.

Sophie

I even turned off adblock to watch your videos, I'm gonna up my subscription tier to help out. This is ridiculous.

Sabertooth88

Wow, total bullshit, I'm sorry to hear this you guys! I just upped my support, thoughts are with you all.

Jorge Gomez

I bumped my donation to help a bit.

Jim Hudson

What a coincidence, I’ve demonetized tyrannical video streaming sights. Fuck YouTube!

Anonymous

I would love to see some one kick u-tubes ass all the way to the poor house.

chris

Stupidity wrote large, History Guy will probably follow.

Martin Morehouse

I wondered when they would get around to this, with no good explanation except ignorance.

DrankDropea76

This is why I'm glad to buy merch and give you people some extra bones, cause the rest of the world sucks at doing it.

Anderson’s

that's maddening. i bumped my donation also thank you for your great work and the hours of company

Louis W. Reuter II

Not unexpected but still not anything very surprising. Still, not a good thing. I'm glad I can help financially.

Sean Norton

With Ian now putting his videos on Floatplane, would you consider doing the same to help both decentralize your content and have another potential platform for people to support you?

RobK

Heck of a bday gift YouTube... I am so ready to abandon them for abandoning the creators.

Sean Smith

:( Yet another reason to hate Alphabet and all it's machinations. "Do no evil" my aching ass.

A Pete Bingham

I was under the impression that you had previously been demonetized and that it was on and off. You can count on my continued support.

Zig

WTF!!!! Don’t stop doing what you do here!!!!

Lane Shinogle

YouTube execs can eat a massive dick, so sick of watching them harass historians.

Anonymous

I just upped my patreon for you and Anvil. I can't afford much, but I damn sure want ya'll to continue the great content. The history alone is worth it.

Paul Goyne

Just upped my subscription level. Have you seen Ian's video re. Floatplane?

Dr. B

Likewise, I just upped my subscription amount!

Frank Baud

Welp that's shitty. I'm happy to keep supporting you here.

Wayne Dygert

Well that sucks. Not pressing the like button here for obvious reasons. What I will do is bump up my contribution.

Jonathan Irvine

Will bump up my Patreon subscription to help counter this. Absolute bollocks from YouTube. Keep it up!! Love your work

Sean

What a bunch of scum bags. Im sure ill still see ads on your videos though...

moosemaimer
>>30838525

Oh, they officially dropped that from their corporate mantra some time ago. Evil apparently pays.

Chris Hamlin

The algorithm strikes again. Even a channel like Indy Neidel's World War Two has significant monetization issues.

Richard Valenzi

Okay my friend, I have upped my monthly level. It’s always something these days.

William Katz

Doubled my monthly; what YouTube is doing here is gross.

Tristin Medlin

I’m sorry that it took something like this happening to motivate me to support you here on patreon.

Komitadjie

New supporter here as well, brought about by the YouTube crap. Keep up the good work!

Travis Allen

I have seen your stuff before and loved it, sorry I didnt contribute till now!

Earl

I've been a subscriber for a while now, but haven't been a Patreon contributor. Until now. I hope that you will be able continue you video content. Sad thing is that there are so many firearm related YouTube channels that I subscribe to, follow, and watch, but being retired, I can't possibly contribute to them all. Keep up the good work.

Chris Duesing

Sorry it took so long to chip in.

Michael Fischer

We need every dollar, no matter if you just signed up like me or have been supporting for years

Mark Strickland

I moved my contribution up a level. Soon I'll do my quarterly patreon level sets (I do it every quarter) and put C&Rsenal to mega level for a while.

David Adams

I'm in. Proud to lend support.

Jonathan Bates

Sorry about YouTube's treatment of you and your cold. I'm just getting over one myself. I've watched just about every Primer video and this is my first donation. Be well.

Tom Clark

I just increased my pledge. I hope it helps.

Jordan Dotson

Just started supporting you guys when I saw the news. I can't just sit by and let awesome history and awesome people disappear

Ron Johnson

I have been a Patreon supporter of both C&R and Anvil for a while. I knew this day would come, and that was part of my motivation to contribute directly. However, the content is so detailed and valuable to those of us that have interest in C&R firearms that it is a necessity to be a direct contributor in order to keep this content flowing.

Warren Delamar

I'm frustrated by this. C&Rsenal is one of the best history channels on YouTube, the sort of content that should be promoted and held up as an example to others. I can pitch in an extra couple bucks each month to keep content of such stellar quality coming.

Marko Gasparovich

I've been watching C&Rsenal ever since I was introduced to it by a friend and also The Great War. I've been a subscriber for a while, but never a Patreon. That changes now. What YouTube did is horrible and shouldn't impact somebody's life dream.

Alex Frost

I had to borrow money for rent this month, for the first time in my life. But I saw what happened to the channel and it was absolute bullshit. So here's my $5 and maybe I eat a little less until I get paid at my new job, but I'm happy to help redress the balance and do something to show that I care about the people producing this content. Othias, you're awesome. You and your wife deserve all the gluten free treats in the world. Keep it up. The pendulum always swings back. Good night.

Victor Khabarov

Damn, just raised my contribution last month. Well, here we go again

Arie

Just joined for a dollar a month. Hope it helps you and Mae out Othais.

Bradden L Scott

Heard through Karl/InRange. Disappointing, but it is the way things are going when you get into the specifics of firearms. Let everyone know to come show the love on Patreon, hope it makes up for it.

Chris Stochaj

One option might be to consider uploading to Floatplane. It’s more of an alternative to Patreon in the sense that instead of third-party advertisers the video hosting and content is user-supported. It’s a shame that content that seeks to educate people with smart, objective content like you guys, Ian, the Great War, and Timeghost are not seen is a positive light by YouTube.

Doug G

Othias' plaintive desperate cries finally broke me down to support this first hand. Maybe i am suffering from the same sickness, but the shear historical loss to the world is too much. I would assume when you get into WW2, that there is the whole "Hitler/nazi" question with YT, but i feel that like FW, that joining floatplain app, might be the best way to survive

Daniel Getter

Well then, that's nonsense. Your channel has THE highest quality content I watch on YouTube. Some have slicker production, some put out videos more often. But C&Rsenal packs in so much education and obscure history into an entertaining package, it should be held up as a model for what YouTube can be when you look beyond "trending." I certainly hope this is a temporary blip in YouTube's constantly evolving policies and practices. But in the meantime, this OG patron upgraded to Uber. Worth every penny, then and now!

Jeff

First thing I've ever funded on patreon, hope it helps.

David Falbo

I cancelled my Hulu subscription so I can help you guys out. You have better content than whats on Hulu anyways :)

Gunner Dupree

As soon as I saw your new video, I came here to pledge my $5/month. Lets keep history alive!

Nicholas R Matthews

Complete BS, something has got to change at YouTube! Something better needs to come along!

Mark I Godfrey

Just upped my pledge. Keep the great content coming!

Anonymous

Got the news through Karl and InRange and decided to be a new pledge. For all the heart, soul, effort (Sweat, blood, blueberries etc...) that you guys put into making the show, you guys deserve much much better than this sort of shoddy treatment from Youtube. But they won't break you guys, that's for darn show and us fans will help keep it that way!

RogueIV

I also jeard the news from Karl and joined in. Its not much but I hope it helps you guys!

chris hodgson

It will all look better when you feel better and get healthy. I have got a very bad head cold myself right now - long very hot showers helps. Get healthy first.

YoJanson

I cancelled Youtube Red and spent it here

James Anthony

just signed up, keep on keeping on guys!

Kory Bradley

I saw the video and immediately Went to your patreon to support you.

Tyler Williams

I love your show and just added all of you and mark to my monthly support. Thank you for everything I do. I will give you more when I can. But my daughter is a freshman in college so it may be a while ;)

Sean Smith

this hurts my soul. seriously. Alphabet has gotten worse and worse and more evil every second.

Colin Grant

I watched your Krag-Jørgensen epic while working on my Krag-Jørgensen tonight. And then I saw this. So unreasonable. Upped my pledge.

CandRsenal
>>30838456

Unfortunately Floatplane is, to me, a huge distraction from what is necessary. we need a new platform with discovery built in. People need to be able to find a variety of content and engage with it. That has been the golden core of YT that has not been replicated elsewhere.

CandRsenal
>>30838580

Previously we were getting "yellow dollared" so individual videos would be demonetized for periods of time, we'd argue, they would get fixed long after the views fell off.

Alex

I upped my pledge as well. I won’t recommend a new platform but perhaps consult some attorneys and see if anyone is considering or pursuing a class action suit against YouTube and their after the fact demonetization and theft of earned revenue from you and other creators. I hate lawyers as much as the next guy but YouTube needs to feel the pain in one of the only ways possible.

Brandon T

here's a "YouTube union" in league with IGMetall(sp) currently threatening this - or something like it - under EU law (I think; I barely understand the reasoning myself, although it seems solid). It appears to be primarily a scare tactic, but when it comes to civil lawsuits and similar non-criminal-yet-somehow "legal cases", sometimes that's the best course of action: force an Evil Empire to either pony up money higher than their acceptable "loss leader" amount, in theory and hopefully at least paying out the ass to avoid public scrutiny or else take it to court and (hopefully) still be forced to show their yellow-belly and blood-red stripes to the world ... thus either losing (not a lot, but at least some) of their wealth and underserved reputation to the public, and/or fight it under the scrutiny of hundreds of yt channels, with their millions of viewers, and *really* show how their behavior is simply and literally nothing more than intolerable virtue signaling. This is far from the first time that a popular social network (be it YouTube, Twitter, Facebook and/or another) has unapologetically screwed over one of the metaphorical hands that feed them, and you can bet it won't be the last. So until they die under the weight of their not-at-all "social justice", or change their ways to better reflect the opinions held by a good number (if not majority) of their customers (... and yes, I recognize that the *advertisers* are their customers, *not* their viewers), the best-and-easiest middle finger you can give them is to install an ad blocker right before donating via patreon/PayPal gift/etc. To this and any other creators you consider to be an important part of your (online) life. *mic drop* ... and with that, thank you, C&Rsenal, for the awesomeness you provide to us viewers on a regular basis. Hopefully this speed bump will turn into a launching ramp instead of a dead fall. Thank you for all that you do!

Brandon T

I'm poor as f*ck, but you're worth more than I could ever hope to pay you, so thank you for unintentionally giving me a really good reason to skip a Starbucks every month in exchange for something that actually provides some worth to my life. Good luck, and again, thank you!

Anthony O'Nan

Upped my pledge, I cant imagine the stress this must cause for you all, but for what it's worth, I've got your back. We all have your back, the show and its community is something incredibly special, and I'm thankful to have been able to contribute to it going back to the very beginning only 8 episodes in, and I for one am not going anywhere.

Spicy110

Been watching for a long while, just seen Karl's post and I have now joined your patreon to help in the little way I can.

Sasha Whitefur

I am going to tell every Veteran, that I know, about YouTube, attacks on the constitution, re: the First and Second Amendments.

Mats Tammisto

This was the kick in the backside I needed to finally sign up on Patreon.

David D

I dont understand how you're demonitized but the ads that run are always Midway USA selling gunsmithing tools. 🧐

Marlo Delfin Gonzales

I just joined care of InRange's notification. Thank you for your work.

Ricardo Carreira

I’ve upped my pledge. Continue the good work.

Ian Rupert

This is sad, and scary. The way things are going, they will make us all felons overnight with the swipe of a pen once they get the chance.

Jack_Inthebox

this is outrageous. You now have a new patron.

Sam Thompson

I’m not able to give as much as I’d like to right now, but I really hope what I can may help!

Anonymous

Well, you just got one more dollar from me

Jackson Darr

Well, there's nothing else for it, then. In for a penny, in for a pound. I just went from $1/month to $10/month. I've got your back, guys. I just hope that enough others do, too.

Paul Loncle

Just got three more dollars from me

Jon Bachmann

I’m sick of these YouTube games, just increased from $5 to $10 a month. Keep up the fantastic work!

Thilo Agthe

Really sorry to hear this. I’ve upped my monthly pledge to try to help compensate for this. Love your content; you are some of the best stuff on YT!

Sean Norton
>>30838456

I totally understand that, as there is no platform that really has the capability of YouTube, but I'm concerned that this is a step for them to ultimately get rid of "problem content" on the platform, by first demonetizing it so that there is no financial drive to post it. I would not be surprised to see further steps from them to rid the platform of anything they don't like, including hiding the content more from things like search results and more. I believe YouTube's final step will be to outright start banning channels they dislike. Do you think it would be worth it to post on other platforms if only just to help protect your content from being completely eliminated? I'll be honest, I am also asking for slightly selfish reasons. I no longer want to watch ANYTHING on YouTube, and if C&Rsenal, Forgotten Weapons, and InRange were to all end up on the same platform (especially one with a decent mobile app), I would almost entirely stop viewing anything on YouTube.

Matthew Gibson

Harmful content? This world gets more insane by the day. What are they going to ban next, car repair videos? A car can injure someone also..... Please keep up the great work, I hope that many of your viewers can step in and step-up their donations also.

Stuart Burton

It must be because of all those recent victims of maniacs armed with Lebel 1886s

Mark Renfrew

I upped my pledge. Thanks for everything you do.

Lynn Phillips

Here's an idea. I already have plenty of t-shirts and I'm not a patch guy so instead of purchasing more in your current promotion I upped my Patreon pledge by $5/mo. You may want to start mentioning this as an option for the next promotion. Keep up the good (detailed) work.

John Benson

Hopefully this is some stupid bot issue and you can get it successfully arbitrated. I am throwing more cheddar your way in meantime. I do not suppose you can find any sponsorship opportunities? I really feel like the firearms industry and/or NRA should step up and support folks creating positive content.

Sean Norton
>>30838456

Additionally, have you ever considered doing more regular Q&A type videos, especially for people of a certain patron level to ask questions? It seems to be a fairly effective way to have more content and patron engagement without a ton of work (I say this strictly as a viewer, not a content creator. I have no clue how much work goes into that in addition to what you already do)

Hunter Greer

like a lot of people here, i upped my pledge. stay strong.

MICHAEL FRANKLIN

I upped my pledge, too. Demonetizing a channel that informs about firearms in their historical context is absurd. And that's the nicest thing I can say about it.

Eki T

New pledge here. Fuck Youtube, keep up the good work.

Tiger in man's clothing

Yet, YouTube runs ads on every R&Rsenal video. I guess they just don't like sharing revenue and being liberals it's OK for them to steal from creators, but not the other way round. I block adds on YouTube so they also get demonetized.

Jacob Bauer

You guys do important work, couple dollars a month is nothing.

DaveJD

I just chipped in a couple more bucks a month to C&rsenal and Anvil to help compensate. FWIW, I watch all of Ian and Karl's content via Full30 instead of YouTube, and can probably keep up with your fine vids either there or on Patreon. YT can play with itself if that's how they want it.

Devyn Pritchett

Don’t know why I waited until something like this happened to become a supporter but it’s better late than never I suppose. I don’t know how the primer series prejudices YouTube guidelines unless they’re taking issue with the Anvil series. They may consider gunsmithing in any capacity to be a violation which I hope isn’t the case. You guys do great work and provide a wealth of information. Here’s to hoping this issue can be resolved!

Paul Beck

I have just gotten word from Karl at InRange about y'all's plight so I have added C&R to my Patron account.

James Janssen

As a broke recent college graduate I have been hesitant to finally get around to setting up a patreon account to support my favorite content creators but with this recent news I finally decided I can help out at least one of my favorites. The quality content this team create is worth me skipping a taco Bell visit once a month. I really hope that the recent news inspires others to finally monetarily support this wonderful team like it has me.

NemoKeine

new pledge from me, keep up the good work

Mausermaniac792

To hell with them...upped my pledge. You guys rock.

Charles Eybs

Upped my pledge. I wish they would give you a more detailed explanation when they pull part of your livelihood. You guys are awesome, positive vibes heading your way.

LS

Bumped up my sub. Don't let the bastards get you down.

Cobra Commander

Increased mine too. I'm sorry I cant do more. Fight the good fight Othias. However the chips may fall, we stand behind you; and will continue to support whatever direction this goes.

Matthew Blake

New sub, abject censorship cannot prevail!!!

Peter Thomas

I just watched the video and jumped on here to pledge a couple of bucks a month, really want you all to keep doing what you are doing.

Edwin A. Novak

Uber now. Y'all deserve better treatment from YT and we all know that. Thanks for all that you do.

Kent W.Fevurly

You guys are the best channel on YouTube. Just upped my pledge to uber level. In my opinion, well worth it. Keep fighting the good fight.

Ben Langley

Upped my sub. Thank you for hours and hours of entertainment.

macbar

new among patreon :) keep anvil comming

Dayhiker42

Karl says hi. I came over from InRange. Happy to be here.

Ian Parish

I given what I can to stop you tube from killing your awesome content

Chris Ramos

Well that nonsense did get me to finally sub I guess. Fascinating channel I'd be very sad to see go.

Primarch359

I re patreoned because of this(previously you had fell victim to the pruning of my patreons down to less than half a dozen). I also have bought several shirts and the cool lighting download option to give to signal my STRONG support for that project(also impatience after the 3rd week wanted to see it all). I unlike most people here kind of understand Youtubes position. While I feel like you should be exempt because of the context of your content. It is a judgement call whether you break YouTubes stated fuzzy around the edges rules. Here is hoping the internal discussion they are having breaks your way as it should in my opinion.

Adam Lewis

Upped pledge. Keep the show alive!

S. Evan Howie

Just updated to 5$. Great work. Keep it up.

Tox Mace

Upped my pledge. Godspeed.

sgtsandman

Just setup for a $5 a month plan. I hope with me and enough others, it will offset the hit from YT.

Jim Tomkiewicz

just joined here from youtube. Keep up the good work.

Nathan Zylla

Hey man..keep your spirits up..we like bolt action DAKKA....keep em coming

Reece

Just came from the video about this nonsense and joined up. I would be a major loss to the firearms and history community if the show were to go under, keep up the great work.

Carson Mentzer

Finally got off my lazy ass and will now be giving 10$ a month, I sincerely hope this whole YouTube nonsense will come to pass and you’ll turn out alright in the end.

Alembik_1212

I enjoy your content a lot...time to do my part to keep a great channel alive!

Geoff Lamb

Ok time to put my hand in my pocket and actually do my part to pay for the stuff I watch.

Schuyler Ashton

And now you're getting five bucks more a month from me, rather then YouTube getting it.

Andrey Gardner
>>30850823

The only harm this content is doing is harming YT’s bottom line by being less profitable than an algo chasing 5 second cat video that has more ad that content. It might also be hurting the “Guns bad” mantra by having long form, insightful, properly researched, and educational content that shows weapons as fascinating historical artifacts instead of evil. YT does not care if it kills the creators that made it as it replace the between ad filler with mindlessly generic big media refuse and keep profiting. I can sympathize with evil, but not with stupid. Are there no companies that want to be seen next to firearms or sell to firearms enthusiasts? Viewers are a commodity YT sells to advertisers so why do thy refuse to sell my gun loving eyeballs?

Kevin Lingow

Best of luck navigating the labyrinth of You Tube. Keep up the great educational work, and

Phil Byrd

joined patreon cause I WILL HAVE A 1911 Episode!

Paul Underwood

Glade to add to my growing list of Patreon contributions! Hope you can keep entertaining us with great content. P.S. YouTube - F*#k you!

Bob Korasidas

Did the long overdue Patreon upgrade moments ago. Thanks for the entertaining way you share knowledge (important, yes!), knowledge with the world. We appreciate it!

Daniel Gray Webb

You probably won't respond but, I enjoy your content so I upped my pledge. I hope everyone else here does the same thing because you all are worth it.

Nick

i say fuck to the youtube leviathan

Pudding

I'm increasing my pledge. You guys deserve better

James Hill

Just became a patron, would hate to lose your work.

MrBushido

You're work is fantastic and deserves better than what youtube has to offer.

Michael Foote

Guys make a calendar for guys and one for girls with top shooters and top gun internet people. I am sure they would lay donate their time to you cause. I think it would sell as paper or a download😀