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Unloaded: Re-Monetized to our surprise (Patreon)

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2020-01-16 04:31:54
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Content

For those of you who would like to download the audio: 

https://podcast1z2.candrsenal.com/07-Unloaded-Monetization_platforms_pipes.mp3 

And for those of you who don't have the time, the channel has a brief announcement.
https://youtu.be/HeuU46xrEJE

Thank you all for the support through this... I'm not sure what to call it.  Shake awake?
We're still overwhelmingly funded by Patrons and merchandise.  I think our experimentation to court YT ads is, frankly, over regardless. 

Files

Previews only

Unloaded 07: Monetization, platforms, pipes

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCStJdWfvuhKP5URgXgtzx7Q For more podcast releases, check here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJvsSlrbdhn4IbfGnRcCLLOFXhUlnVzUy

Comments

nealx01

Well that's great news... for now...

Chris Hamlin

Congrats. It's a shame Youtube is so unresponsive to creators.

CandRsenal
>>31175823

That is the sticking point for me. At some point we were reviewed by a human, I am assured. So why not a timestamp, video link, or some other quantifiable that we can work with?

Tom Owen

That is great!!! It would be nice to know what triggered the de-monetization!!! Regardless this is great news!!!

Charles Adams

Othias, Mae, the way you describe of "doing business" certainly isn't an exclusively "Southern Thing" its been my experience that what happened to you in your 'negotiations' happens in either family-based organizations or in organizations very poorly run regardless of where their antecedents. Now there are people who prefer this type of operation for its lack of accountability, but no matter what the origins, it's infuriating due to lack of accountability. Now, the family or "southern thing" being "family" (in the broadest sense) ultimately has accountability built-in. The whole idea of the lack of accountability being unconscious or in the case of YouTube probably intentional brings a lot of power to the organization. Also, those tree frogs types down east cn get pretty good sized, maybe due to the size of the flying cockroaches Down-East.

Ethereal

My patreon pledge was consistent for 3 years until I retired.So now my pledge is lower but still consistent.I enjoy the show and I'm particularly pleased with the no politics stance.I've used Mae's shooting example (body size, physical build)as a recoil guide for my adult daughters for trying some of my different firearms.

Ted Weldon

Great to hear, I'm in for the year. Have to support what you love.

David Falbo

Awsome to hear! Hopefully it stays this way, 🤞 fingers crossed 🤞

James McKenzie

I don't know that it helped any, but I spent a solid 2hr of waiting room time going through rap videos and action movie clips and reporting anything that had a gun firing in it as offensive violence. I figured if you were already demonetized that it couldn't hurt and if, in aggregate, all of the studio-sponsored content got autoflagged as permissible, that a rising tide might lift *all* boats. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Austin Minder

5 degrees outside in south Wisconsin and I'm listening to crickets, kinda cool.

Sean Smith

My Patreon level for C&Rsenal are completely comfortable for me until the end of times. I did increase my Anvil level, but that went up to a level that I am also very comfortable with. I will continue to support both channels at the minimum of the current levels, because I feel that I get at least that much entertainment . Please continue, I enjoy the content quite a bit, and thanks for the awesome content.

jhaykhay25

I'm a history person. Love your content. But... History YT channels among many others are being hit badly so my support is spread out among a few channels. I will continue with my upped donation but I don't want to see other channels go down either. Thanks for your hard work, it's much appreciated!

CandRsenal
>>31176322

It's definitely an approach that does not work on a macro scale with a wide variety of creators.

CandRsenal
>>31176978

That's one approach. Honestly I just couldn't see myself engaging with the reporting tools unless someone was committing a legitimate crime. It's so easy to just not watch things!

William Kreh

Well this is good news if not for the funding it provides then for the message in general. Glad to hear it and glad for the clarity it brought you in hind sight. You have mentioned Anvil getting it's own channel. Great idea and I hope there will be extensive announcements of the new channel name and other information as soo as it is known.

Derek Putley

Thanks folks. Good to hear your monetization is back. Let's hope it stays that way.

James G. Jones

So tonight was actually a "Pipecast" and not a podcast?..lol I enjoy listening to these videos and I don't find them boring when I am at work. Have yall considered at the end of the podcasts, maybe taking time to answer a few questions from people that been sent to you?

Stuart Burton

I will keep up my increased contribution for 12 months can't guarantee it after that but I will always be at least a buck a month. Problem is in Britain you pay tax on the contribution.

Wayne Dygert

Glad to hear you've been reinstated through whatever means. Can't imagine the level of consternation you must feel at the degree of opacity exhibited by you tube bureaucracy in terms of playing field rules...

Jackson Darr

I can't speak for anyone else, but I upped from $1 to $10 I intended it to stay there. That's not just for one year, either. I consider it permanent.

Kenneth Marshall

Thanks for all you do - Also the smell of a pipe and old guns (cosmo) is the most wonderful aroma! I started working in a gunsmith shop at 14 yo and boss smoked a pipe - I'm not sure why there isn't a scented air freshener in this flavor!

Wayne Dygert
>>31183251

Want to bring down your current government? Start a rumour they're going to begin a carbon tax on each exhalation (carbon dioxide). On second thought, best not to give them any more ideas...

Jeff Pleimling

If there is a good side to this it is the new Patreon supporters. This incident made me finally joined Patreon and started supporting the people who made content I regularly watch. I had been meaning to do it for a while (even had my wife's blessing), but there always seems to be something else to do.

Gerald Drake

I also like listening to the long winded explanations and rambles it's great background listening while I'm at work.

Planescaped

I used to smoke a pipe for 8 years... god I miss it. Except I didn't use filters as they seemed questionably effective, maybe they are, as my lungs really didn't like it near the end,.. still miss it, :P

Chris Crowther
>>31175823

Their usual excuse is that they don't want to give people too much information, because they'll use it to work around their policies. Which is a bullshit response. If your system is only robust through obscurity, then it's not robust at all.

chris

About 15 between you guys and Mark is going to be a long term thing.

Phil Byrd

Just cause i can now, THIS IS NOT A 1911 episode

Lynn Phillips

Your explanation of how the advertisers are the driving force in this opened my eyes. I want to now run this by some consultants I know on the buying side to learn what they think.

David Burnham

So a non firearm related question: What are your "go to" beard care products?

Phil Byrd

Have you looked at Amazon? I saw old episodes of Forgotten Weapons packed into groups there.

Geoff Lamb
>>31183288

I only upped from $0 to $1 but it was definitely a kick up the backside to remind me I need to support the people who make the shows I consume

PoindexterG

I’ve got a total amount I spend on various channels at Patreon. And I want to keep all my subscriptions within that amount. I’ve had one channel (not going to name names, but it’s not a firearms channel) that has really gone downhill a lot. They put out less videos, stopped putting any content on patreon, stopped responding to the patrons. I’d decided I was going to drop my subscription there. And right about the time I decided I was stopping it, C&Rsenal got demonetized. So it seemed a good time to up my support. And as long as you guys don’t drop off the map like that channel, I’ll keep supporting.

General Jack Ripper

Congratulations. You are now part of a very small minority.

Alden Skinner

Patreon is maxed out on both you guys and Mark, and, barring getting run over by a beer truck, will remain so. What you both do has become essential to me. On the platform side, would AWS provide a way to spin up an alternative route? And YES to PDFs!

CandRsenal
>>31178303

That's fine, we're honestly happy with any level of support. It's not exaggeration that $1-2 per regular viewer and we'd never worry about production!

CandRsenal
>>31179640

Yes. Another advantage of an independent Anvil is that is no longer has to be as careful as Primer, which can't put itself into a controversial position or we'll risk our association with certain museums etc.

CandRsenal
>>31181349

I have considered creating a mailbag system. It's just a matter of separating it from the usual messages and comments.

CandRsenal
>>31183288

I honestly would never recommend more than $3. if we had $1 from every regular viewer I could easily expand the show and get more done! We'll gladly accept a little extra here and there while the others catch up.

CandRsenal
>>31184566

Sometimes when we get a tobacco that we're not super keen on to smoke, we'll just use it as potpourri

CandRsenal
>>31185025

It has been an extreme compliment and, honestly, very refreshing to see we had untapped market potential. Whether it is fun to think about or not, the budget is how we get work done.

CandRsenal
>>31186487

I use mine very infrequently. But the stress of the current situation demanded some release.

Peter Starr

I wish I could still smoke a pipe. I grew up with the smell and loved a pipe beside the fire on my canoe trips. Too dangerous for getting back on the cigarettes though.

Arturo Ceron

You can have affiliate links that don't violate YouTube's policies. In the video description you can link to a page on C&R's website, and put the links to your affiliates there. That way there's no direct marketing from your YT video post. You just say in the video "Clink the link in the video description, and you'll find links on that page." There are plenty of firearms content channels on YT that use affiliate links from Brownells and other firearms companies in that way.

CandRsenal
>>31190743

We did try that but they have weird rules about referencing outside material, links, descriptions, etc. Our episodes are riddled with those.

CandRsenal
>>31208020

We appreciate it and promise to do our utmost to remain consistent in both quality and quantity.

Richard Anderson

My monthly donation has virtually nothing to do with YouTube monetized policy one way or the other. I view your channel as a public service....period. As for Mae, any woman smiling while shooting a machine gun is sexy as hell! Now about beard maintenance.....not so much.

CandRsenal
>>31210983

I have never actually had a cigarette weirdly enough. I also just sorta forget about my pipe for months at a time. I guess I don't have the addiction.

Johnathon Akers

Heard about the demonetization issue, decided to join as a patron.

Peter Starr
>>31210983

Yeah, I think the cigarettes are designed as especially addictive delivery systems. A fast strong uptake with multiple units lined up.

Michael Kumba

In your comments about selling Mae as shooter first and female second. I have always thought of Mae as C&Rsenal's version of Top Gear's STIG, but with valuable opinions. I don't know if it was ever discussed in the past but i would imagine that if we compared the men who carried these rifles in the first world war to Mae. They would much closer in height and weight than if we compared to men of today humans have changed a lot in 100 years, we are much taller and fatter . I think for us to truly understand the historical context of these rifles we need to look not only of the rifles them selves but also the issued gear and the stature of the people who used them. A lot of topics which are outside of the context of C&Rsenal. At either rate thank you everyone at C&Rsenal for all the work you have done. I'm personally glad that i have a better job now so that i can support your great work on making firearms history more accessible.

Gunner Dupree

I'm still giving you my $5 a month, I'm glad to hear your monetized again, but I hope my extra $5 a month with everyone else, allows you guys to can expand and make better videos.

Christopher Dooley
>>31225018

"I have always thought of Mae as C&Rsenal's version of Top Gear's STIG, but with valuable opinions. "---This is a very good analogy.

John S Wren

Here's a thing. I've been working away and haven't had time or energy to check in on the situation. I got back a few hours ago and thought I'd see what was going on. My wife, who has no particular interest in historic firearms, told me you'd been remonetised. Turns out she "was worried about Othais and Mae so wanted to see what what was happening". I'm not sure what this means - but you've really made an impression out there!

Slinkee
>>31190743

I think Ian had said, a third party had approached him about repackaging the videos and that it wasn't a focus for him

Erik

I'd have a steam-powered cell phone if I could, so can't properly fathom the You Tube mechanics, but is it possible to court funding from outfits that would have an interest in your show for the interest it generates in their wares - Brownells, Sarco, Numrich, IMA, etc..., and plug them with a forward to your show such as you see on PBS: C&Rsenal has been made possible by Bob's Guns, the Letter F, and Viewers Like YOU?

Brian Foster

I have no problem keeping my Patreon contribution consistent at $10 to C&R and $3 to Mark. From a YouTube point of view, now that you are re-monetized, it is helpful to sit through the advertisements? Some of them are five minutes or more long. Right now, I"m letting them run.

trekchu

YT mechanics are, to put it diplomatically, even more flawed than the Imperial Japanese Navy's high command in 1942. Mesa poor, so $1 is all I can do, but y'all deserve it. I learned so, so so much from C&Rsenal, and it's helped me with my own hobby, which is writing stories in which some of those guns often feature.

Richard Anderson
>>31186487

I find the formula for stress relief from the 60's still works...to quote a phrase of the times "drugs, sex and rock and roll" (of course the drugs of choice in my age group is Viagra and beer).

Bruce Brodnax
>>31197149

It's a Southern thing. She's obviously been keeping a lid on it for the camera, I haven't heard her say "All y'all" yet, so she hasn't gone full Mason-Dixon on us...

Chris Marchi

U are the man...and she is the woman...u guys rock

Mr. Lee

It took a while to listen to this one, obviously a fan and supporter. I did bump support brackets, but to be honest it came at the cost of supporting other channels. During the "shake-awake" I evaluated what I subscribe to and realized that I was justifying small monthly support based on entertainment and participation. I came to the conclusion that your channel is currently the only one I frequently watch that I feel is worth supporting just for the content.

MrBushido

There is an algorithm/analytic for security cameras in development that visually detects pistols that have been drawn and not those in a holster. Interesting and worrying at the same time. This was on Smarter Every Day if I remember correctly. Youtube may have developed something similar for their videos.