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Unloaded 12: Othais & The Boys (Patreon)

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Kevin from Moss Pawn Shop, Matt from Firearms Policy Coalition, and Othais discuss the current goings in the gun world.

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chris

Misha Is out of shotgun type bangsticks. Take care out there.

tee_es_bee

Hi there. I live in the second largest city in the Czech Republic. Things seem pretty orderly. The government has been on the ball. They were rather aggressive with nation wide closing of everything non-essential, instituting freedom of movement restrictions and mandatory face covers while the confirmed infections were still in double digits. (For context the CZ had roughly 1/30 of the population of the US with mandatory public health-care paid for in a form of a 4.5% income tax deducted for each pay check.) Stores are well stocked. The only thing that is strugling to keep up with demand is yeast. :) Gun shops are considered a non-essential business and are therefore closed nation wide. Both retired and students health professionals started working to cover the more mundane stuff. In general health professionals work longer hours, but so far our post-socialist healthcare system is holding and did not get overwhelmed.

Matthew Doye

I have to say when I saw Othais and the Boys I thought he'd got himself an anti tank rifle.

Matthew Doye

Going to keep my subscription going, not that it's much.

John S Wren

Hi Othias, You asked about what it's like in Europe. Well, in the UK my experience is that like a lot of people I've never worked harder than in the last few weeks. Just trying to get ahead of a constantly changing situation is utterly exhausting. There are no fixed points or structure, just the need to keep a business alive, to the extent that I have no idea what day it is anymore.

Sean Morrison

My subscription is not going away, I'm only at $3 per month, but it's yours.

Thomas Dyer

I am also $3 per month, but as I used to justify it by saying I wasted more than that on coffee in a day. Now I don't even worry about it, I'm in at the $3 level regardless.

Galen Furford

I upped my $5 to $10 to help out just a little more.

Matthew Gibson

What you do is amazing! I wish I could do more than $20 now. I do not plan on lowering it unless I get laid off.

John Elliott

You can count on my pledge to stay level too through this. I’m also wondering if your gifted an old firearm video with Bruno has any uptick in views from this. I’m imagining someone digging out grandpas old gun and tinkering with it during this.

Peter A

My support isn't going anywhere as long as I stay working.

Sean Morrison

Ok Othias, I just tapped my $3 level up to $5. It's not much but it's something!

Tiger in man's clothing

I started at $1, bumped it up to $2 a couple months ago, and went the full $3 just last month. The work you are doing is worth supporting. I know the $1 isn't that big a deal in the over10% of your followers on FB gave $1 you would be swimming in cash. Since I work in a critical industry my work has not been disrupted.

Arturo Ceron

When the "news" keep whipping the viewing public into a fearful hysteria, this is how the "mob" responds.

Mort Imer

In Washington state the shotguns are selling because you can take them home the same day without a 14day waiting period.

Arturo Ceron

I've never heard a cogent argument on why any amendment in the "Bill of Rights" should be infringed.

Drizzle

My shooting club shut down, decided by the board, who are mostly 60+ shotgunners. Frustrating. Thanks for the podcast; lemme hold five...

Josey

Curious as to what day this was recorded, week of March 30th, week of March 23rd? Seems like most gun shops have calmed down a bit if for no other reason they don't have much to sell. The one closest to me has guns to buy, although you can't be too picky about the brand or caliber. Ammo sales restricted only to those buying a gun, but that's mostly his policy even in calmer times. He never carries a lot of ammo.

Andrey Gardner

To quote a friend of mine "I pay for netflix because they support original content." I support C&Rsenal because I like long form factual content and appreciate the consolidation of information from all the sources I would never get around to reading. I will forgo a case of beer to vote with my money. I can buy more beer later, but if C&Rsenal folds I cannot get another primer. As for the world going crazy, I remember the 90's in the post Soviet sphere, so this feels like nothing with a bug going around. Annoyingly enough the virus lead to the cancellation of an introduction to firearms class I was scheduled to take. Maybe we will see an uptake of bayonets if there is an ammo shortage...

Travis Tremmel

Was listening to this podcast on my way to the store. About 30min into it. Then boop. It goes quiet. I thought ,hmm strange. Get to the store and low and behold I'm once again no longer a patron and had to resubscribe to the channel on patreon to finish listening to the podcast that I received in my email because I'm a patreon. Craziness.

Mr. Lee

I'm not sure if I should be comforted or disconcerted that others are having the same experiences and conversations in different parts of the U.S.. Just before the craziness I sold a pistol to someone out of state. I arranged shipping and made sure everyone had the paperwork they needed but when I went to my local range/ffl corporate had, that morning, decided to suspend firearm shipping services indefinitely. The next day I went to a small shop I frequent and they said they were backlogged and having issues with the post office. They also sold more inventory in the last month then I have seen them move in the 6 years I've been doing business there, the only thing they had left in stock was powder. ; A co-worker bought his first gun, a s&w m&p .40. He is primarily worried about looting in his home, and that was all the pawn shop had left. When he asked me about it I reassured him there are worse things he could have bought, cautioned him about ammo availability, and suggested he take the time to familiarize himself to shooting it. He responded that he was going back to get 2 boxes of ammo, one to go shoot and the other to keep in case he needed it. He plans to sell the pistol in 3 or 4 months when things settle down and he doesn't need it anymore.... ; Ammo is getting scarce around here. Not surprisingly all the retail stores are inundated by panic-buyers, but I noticed the local bulk sellers got hit early by prospectors. ; Speaking to your concerns of broaching your apolitical stance by talking about things like use of firearms in a martial capacity, you have a uniquely safe position to do so by the very nature of the show's material. I think that while you present things in a very "everyman" approach the basic premise that each firearm is a tool to kill the man in front of it is not lost on even the casual viewer. That said I also think you do an excellent job emphasizing, and demonstrating, that the guns are merely machines that do a job and require time and skill to use them proficiently.

Sean Morrison
>>34680049

Please help your friend understand he will still need that gun in 3 or 4 months. Please help him understand that even when this subsides the need for home defense will still be there.

Bruce Brodnax
>>34642473

Don't confuse "bangsticks" & "boomsticks," sil vous plait! Bangsticks are used by divers in shark-infested waters; boomsticks are Ash William's preferred method of repulsing the Army of Darkness. Wildly different applications there... ;-)

Bruce Brodnax
>>34643865

Buy unpasteurized beer [you live in Czechia, I'm certain you have much better sources for such there than we do here! ;-) ] Save the dregs at the bottom of the bottle to make your own sourdough starter. After 3 or 4 days, you'll be good to go for baking all the sourdough bread you'll need... #PROTIP! X-D

Bruce Brodnax
>>34670278

In a way, that's too bad: it would do the next anti-gun legislation a world of hurt if the voters could remember how they'd been "lied & denied" to about "how ez guns are to get" during this crisis...

Bruce Brodnax
>>34670823

OMG, I've just been involved in some remedial civics lessons w/ a (bleeding heart) liberal friend who kept saying "We can just repeal the 2nd Amendment" over & over when I kept telling him "No, you can't, none of the BofR are up for rewrite or repeal!" Still don't think he believes me, even after 4 rounds...

Bruce Brodnax
>>34680049

@ Sean: Nonsense! Stop trying to reduce the flood of cheap guns hitting the market in 6 months when all the panic buyers decide "I'm safe now; I can go back to Condition White..." What are you trying to do, keep me from adding to my collection at rock-bottom prices? You b@st@rd!... ;-D

CandRsenal
>>34676587

Thank you for the support. I sincerely believe our reaction is going to be worse than the disease.

CandRsenal
>>34676878

You're not the first to have this issue. I'm up to 5 people who suddenly vanished apparently.

CandRsenal
>>34680049

I appreciate the story! I have also had some friends who frankly refused opportunities to learn to shoot or buy a gun many times over... they sure came around fast!

John S Wren
>>34644991

Kinda. It's a very British lockdown. We are to stay indoors unless it's to go to work and you can't work from home, for no more than 1 hour exercise per day, for essential shopping or for caring duties. No gatherings of more than 2 people, all but essential businesses closed. The rules are massively open to interpretation so some police forces have enforced more stringently than others. Most people are following the rules and some people are being the dickheads they always were and having BBQs and street parties.

Brian Smith

Good podcast. I never even considered some of the weird sociological things you mentioned. The idea that someone would buy a new gun or magazine and then not buy enough ammunition to even fill the magazine never even occurred to me.

Andrey Gardner
>>34676587

That is the best comment about this mess I have heard. Can I get that as a patch or better yet embroidered on a face mask? In fact, C&Rsenal face masks sound like a good fund raiser.

Jackson Darr
>>34676587

I feel the same. Primer is an irreplaceable resource. I'm at $10/month right now. If it looks like I have to, I won't hesitate to crank that to $20.

Jackson Darr

The common calibers (9mm, 5.56, 7.62x39) disappeared first. Then, you started seeing second-tier calibers like .40 and .45 get bought up. Now it seems that though there has been some restocking of the more common calibers, the more uncommon ones are starting to disappear because of panic buying. Midway and a lot of other sites are almost out of .32 (or at least they were two days ago). I've noticed several calibers that I don't even shoot, but want to in the future, getting bought up. Some of these are already scarce and may never be made by a factory again. I'm considering buying ammo for guns that I don't even have yet just so I can shoot those guns and have brass for reloads when I do eventually buy the guns years down the line.

PeterJim Mc

Okay I’ll share my experience (a bit late) from Canada. In particular a rural part of Ontario that would be the Canadian equivalent of a “red state” ( we never elect anyone but a Conservative provincially or federally). Nobody even talks about looting here. People rarely talk about firearms as self defense weapons, although there’s a ton of gun owners around here. Not that anyone would hesitate to shoot someone endangering their families or whatever but we just don’t have much crime, very little violent crime and in particular next to no “random acts of violence”. Most people I know, regardless of their politics, heard about the US mostly defining gun stores as essential businesses and thought that was crazy. Honestly I did too. Of course with our firearms laws anyone who is anti-gun probably never did the course for a firearms acquisition licence, so they couldn’t panic-buy even if they wanted to. And the gun owners I know weren’t any more likely to buy a gun because of COVID than any other time. That’s maybe changing a bit if this new assault weapons ban goes though. Nobody is going to want to buy a gun that they’ll have to give up within two years. The only upside to the law is that apparently they can be sold out of area so someone with a nice AR could sell it to the States or something. For us the biggest concern has been toilet paper for homes, health of seniors in our nursing homes and having enough PPE for our healthcare workers. Any maybe haircuts? In terms of ammo, the only thing I’ve noticed is that with the lockdown, pretty much every hunter I know has time for the spring turkey hunt this year, even guys who don’t consistently go out every year. So maybe we will run low on 3” 12 gauge shells, dunno.

PeterJim Mc

On another note, I love the content. I love O’s research and detail and getting the comparative shooters perspective from M is great too. I plan to continue to support on Patreon *at a minimum* until I’m caught up on all the content. And since I just got to the Luger I suspect it will be quite a while before I even think about it any different. From my perspective there’s hours and hours and hour sof content that I’m interested in and enjoy, and nothing good is truly free. Under the circumstances I’m going to increase my monthly amount.