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Othais and special guest Quintin Monnin discuss his thesis regarding war trophies and the effects on memory.

http://rave.ohiolink.edu/etdc/view?acc_num=bgsu1587402522418034

quinn@monninfamily.com

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Tiger in man's clothing

I spent a season with a traveling carnival and the saddest thing I came across was people using coins that were obviously stolen from grandpa to put in the machines of the game I ran. I still have a 10 Yen coin that was minted in 1946 that I fished out of one of the machines. I am the only member of my dad's family who is interested in my Grandfather's WWI service and I have his dogtags and service paperwork. I'm also the only veteran among ALL my cousins.

Michael James Blum

The father of a friend of mine was a Marine aviator late in WW2 (and in China in the late 1940s). The father has a "Japanese sword" (or had, dunno if it's still around) that he used for weed trimming and yard work, and was in fact pleased to never preserve or treat it well. At some point it was too dinged up to be used for cutting brush in Florida, probably left in a shed.

John S Wren

This I liked. Most of my family experienced WW2 or served in it, both in Europe and the far east. Quite apart from any racial aspect it was the appalling treatment of POWs by the Japanese that led to a visceral hatred of them during and after the war. Many people knew men who returned home broken by their captivity. My grandfather would not allow Japanese products into his house.

Lynn Phillips

Thanks for the interview. Regarding psychological trauma. My mother’s first husband was in the Army Air Corp and was captured on Bataan. He survived the Death March but died later in a POW camp. Of his squadron of 1000, 300 returned home in 1945. In 2000, I attended a reunion of about 100 of the survivors with my mother. I expected to see a lot of Japan hatred but to a man all of them had forgiven the Japanese. What I see was real hatred of McAurthe

Lynn Phillips

continued! McArthur and Roosevelt because they abandoned the troops in the Philippines. I think betrayal is more powerful than trauma.

Joseph S.

To my knowledge, neither of my Grandfathers returned from Europe with any souvenirs. One was wounded at one point and returned stateside (don't recall the full details as he passed in the mid '80s). My other grandfather was a Aerial Photographer in the Navy, and to my knowledge only flew out of the UK and never set foot in France or Germany during the war. However, when my grandmother passed, we did find some Nazi-regime Reichsmarks when cleaning their apartment, so that may be all he brought back.

Mr. Lee

Interesting topic. I had a great-uncle that as I understood was a driver for the army motor pool during the european campaign in ww2. His children still have trinkets he sent back to them, mostly coins. Out of all the ww2 vetrans in his extended family he was the only one that didn't collect memorabilia after the war, other than buying a 1911. When he died I helped one of his daughters clean out his house. We found a box with a map marking his journey across england, france, and germany along with an argus camera and pictures of the places he had been, mostly landscapes of pretty places. The map, and pictures, stopped just outside a concentration camp, there was an exposed roll of film still in the camera. Apparently it affected him so much he just put all of it in a box and never told his family about it.

Leonard Heinz

The Hubler Luger story comes from "If You Survive," the memoir of George Wilson, an infantry lieutenant in the ETO.

Erik Schmitz

Great episode. He must be talking about Mott's Military Museum in Columbus. Warren is a great guy, he has some interesting pieces with some amazing stories.

Adam Junemann

Having served in the U.S. Army from 4 June 2001 until 13 October 2013 and being officially medically retired on 15 March 2015 with two tours in Iraq I have a unique understanding of the topic being discussed. Our unit during my first deployment would not sign off on any firearms being brought back but if you found small objects that had no meaning for the new government you could be free to take them home. So when my maintenance team found a box of old Iraqi medals in our living area/maintenance bay we were free to have them. I still have mine and use it as a key chain. On the discussion on heritage I have been using myheritage.com to find my side of the family both real and step as well as my wife's side. In general I try to collect all generations of firearms but do put a little more effort into firearms of national identity. So for myself, mom, and real dad german. My step-dad Italian. My wife she is a mix. Ironically I have a bigger collection of Italian for the most part because I believe the firearms are cheaper for the most part. I have also found in checking my heritage i had family on both sides of WW1 and WW2.

Chris Marchi

The only thing they let me bring back was an AK bayonet.

Ryan D Thorne

During Desert Storm, the chain of command was adamant that no weapons of any sort would be allowed to be brought back by individual soldiers. Any military equipment that was taken by the US Army was by Army units, for historic reasons, of course.😉

Andrey Gardner

Is there crowd funding for a 500 page book on the subject yet? Also, although I neglected to write down the exact quote, I feel "no one tells me what to think" has the beginnings of some promising merch? Maybe with a graphic of all the belligerents' period flags, available "uncensored" and with all flags "censored" and/or just a diagonal half of every flag mosaic censored?

Benjamin N
>>45737839

Reminds me of what happened on Redbubble, where merch satirizing Nazis got co-opted by neo-nazis.

Polybun

On the topic of war trophies. Friend of mine recently purchased a house last owned by a vietnam veteran. It hadn't been cleaned out very well by the previous family. In a dark corner of the detatched shop was a steel ring with about 20 hand grenade pins on it.

Franz Anton Mesmer

War trophies: Just don't take the people's hunting arms. :-/

PHILLIP DOUBLE U

ANOTHER LUXEMBOURGEN! I’m not the only one.

Karl Abrahamson

I appreciated how you guys were able to have that discussion, both acknowledging how tough it is, how you view it, and carefully and thoughtfully explained why you put value judgments where you did. Thanks guys, Othias, you are a good interviewer.

Jacob Helms

My grandfather took a k98 off a German uboat in the Pacific, no records avalble but I'm asumming it was near the German naval base at Jakarta Indonesia. But he was the best shot on the ship so when he wasn't on the 20mm they had him pic off mines. From what I understand he hated the rifle he was given and prefured the k98. He hunted with the rest of his life Cause it was better than deer hunting with his .22 like he did to survive as a kid. Bacicaly all I have of my grandfather.

TankDestroyerSarge

Late putting my two cents in, but here goes. Both of my grandfathers served actively during WWII, one in the Mediterranean who I had very little contact with, and one in the Pacific who I was very close to. I remember watching war movies with him when I was young and asking him if that was what the war was really like, knowing he had been a part of it. He never opened up to anyone in the family about his war experiences until I interviewed him for a high school WWII project. My uncles were never apparently interested and he had refused to share with my history nerd mother mostly in an attempt to protect her from the stories. She was finally allowed to sit in as he shared with me, but she was not allowed to participate. We only got a very limited number of stories out of him. When he passed, he made sure that I, the one with the interest, inherited his military stuff. As a reenactor, I take the uniforms, photos, and souvenirs as part of my public USMC/USN unit display. His photo album is a story unto itself (for another time), but includes an incredible number of photos from his time in Nagasaki in September, 1945.