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Krag-Jørgensen Speed Loader (Patreon)

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2021-05-16 03:20:58
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Krag-Jørgensen Speed Loader

This was invented by two employees at Kongsberg Weapon Factory: Andersen and Braathen. Patented in 1921, No. 42331. After our episode on the Norwegian Krag we had a lot of people reach out to us about civilian speed loaders. While there are several designs out there, the Andersen & Braathen seemed to be the coolest to me. After some failed digging, Discord member Rasmus managed to spot one in a lot of used bits and bobs in Norway. He kindly helped us negotiate its purchase and shipping. Norwegian Krag Episodes: https://youtu.be/w8la8AyfZow https://youtu.be/c-zF9tQd-fI If you enjoy this content and want to see more, please consider supporting us at: https://www.patreon.com/CandRsenal OR https://www.subscribestar.com/candrsenal Or buy prints/patches/shirts from the show: https://candrsenal.com/shop

Comments

Tim Black

Never knew those existed

Justin Baird

Oh hell yeah, I need to grab me one of those myself. There seems to have been so darn many Krag charger and speed loader designs, and Andersen & Braathen's seems like the only one that actually ended up being produced in semi-large numbers, although it was almost exclusively for civilians. Lookin' at some early patents by Krag and Jørgensen, they had come up with a similar looking charger pack design, but I don't know if any were actually made. I wonder if these Kongsberg workers took inspiration from that design too. If any of Y'all wanna see what a professional Norwegian shooter can do with these, check this clip out: https://youtu.be/S5ycG87H1b8

David Axel Hansen

Also: This seems like a test run for the shotgun series format, yes? If so, it seems like a good format, though a shotgun will be significantly more complex and therefore require more illustration/explanation without the use of speech - I can't judge how well that will work until I see it, really.

Dr. B

Is this for real?! I mean is it period authentic item? I know the US Army didn’t have anything like this for our Krags, but was somebody else selling it and/or using it?

Justin Baird
>>59920341

The US actually was looking into a stripper clip system called the Parkhurst. There were some other designs submitted as well but the Parkhurst is the only one that actually saw around 200ish (give or take) American krags fitted with the system in the very early 1900s. However, since the Krag was being ditched for the 1903, the army decided it wasn't worth it to continue with the experiments. This design was a design by Kongsberg workers in the 20s that they basically presented to the Norwegian Army who were like "nah were good" and so they provided them to civilian shooters instead. There were several other designs made throughout the years, there was even chargers made for the Danish krags for issue to troops, but since they were too expensive (and cuz the Danes didn't see a need for quick charger loading) they dropped it too. unfortunately none of the chargers or speed loaders for the Krags really ever stuck.

Berderger

Shout out to the mosquito

Stephen

Cool, but that thing is too comlicated for the average squadie.

tenofprime

Such a cool device, however I can see why distributing this army wide could be problematic. Grab it wrong as you pull it out to load and there goes your ammo.

Mick Gillen

Clever bit of kit, your average doughboy would have probably have lost it/broken it verrrry quickly then got himself in trouble with his sarge. Also, it takes as long to load as the Krag itself so whats the advantage? Another piece of kit designed by good backroom engineers that looked great in testing but had almost no practical use. Thanks guys, as always you come up with really interesting stuff.

Guido Schriewer

kind of large though not bulky. seems to work.

K. D. Campbell

“Hey guys what if we made a separate box magazine thing to load our internal capsule magazine??”

Mike Scharf

It takes longer to load that thing than it does to just load the gun?

Anonymous
>>59969963

Yes, but you can load the speed loader during lulls between battle so that they are ready for fast reloads in the heat of battle (same as modern detachable magazines).

Anonymous
>>59930803

Yes, but you can load the speed loader during lulls between battle so that they are ready for fast reloads in the heat of battle (same as modern detachable magazines).

lovot

Did you smack the mosquito after getting your footage?

tenofprime
>>59969963

My bet on why a loader like this did not become stranded issue is cost, for the cost of this you could do tons more stripper clips and with the Krag they decided even that was not worth it.

CandRsenal
>>60056434

Mae Responding: Funnily enough I didn't even notice the little bugger, was too in the zone.

Jeremy

Much blood was lost in the filming of this video!