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Patron Release: Small Arms Primer 158 (Patreon)

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2022-06-07 06:00:03
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Patron Release: Small Arms Primer 158

This is an early release to all patrons/supporters, please let us know if you spot any errors and we'll get them fixed for the public release. Once we release the public version in a week, we'll pull this one down, so all comments on this video will go away. Thank you for your support and we hope ya'll enjoy! Othais and Mae delve into the story of this classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration. C&Rsenal presents its Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday! Prints/patches/shirts from the show: https://candrsenal.com/shop/ Ammunition data thanks to DrakeGmbH https://www.youtube.com/user/DrakeGmbH/ Animations by Bruno! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTkD8fyZRgT5icMbKeMFEbQ https://candrsenal.com/primer-gallery/ Additional reading: https://candrsenal.com/recommend-reading/ Peabody Firearms Edward Hull American Society of Arms Collectors Bulletin 118:62-67 The Post-Civil War Quest for U.S. Cavalry Carbines Snail Mail/Contact us at: https://candrsenal.com/contact/

Comments

Smoking Frog

That firing pin set up is odd to me, looks like flintlock/percussion but center-fire? Definitely very interesting.

Minion

"Fezs are cool!"

Charles McCormack

At 6:55, the Sharps and Burnside were mentioned, the illustrations were of the Sharps and the Spencer

Scott

With a anonymous buyer in New York I would assume that it was Bannermans, it fits the right time And place

K. D. Campbell
>>85349996

Yeah I was going to say giving he was Mass. born, his name is likely pronounced PEEbuhDEE. Or maybe this will be our gun culture’s generation “Garand” pronunciation war.

K. D. Campbell

For those wondering, yes, it’s THAT Borden family from Fall River. 🪓🪓🪓

JacksonCZ

K.D. Campbell. My beloved late brother-in-law was a Durfee. My sister has a book about the four families that ran Fall River. Durfee, Borden sorry don’t remember other two. I don’t remember the order but the stepmother according to her surnames was a Durfee twice lol. Now lol loved the video, Ian has shown the best adaption of the action in the Lee Model of 1876. If not for politics etc. America would of had a Lee rifle before his Remington-Lee 1979 and onward. I have already said that I am a Lee ‘fanboy’ was the term. Don’t get me started on US picking the Krag over what became the Remington-Lee 1899.

Matteo Manino

A very minor detail, the Roberts pattern was chosen also by Serbia for converting some of their muzzleloaders.

James Hayden

Just a thought - for someone who was from the era and used to the Sharps or Spencer, using the trigger guard as a loading lever would probably be much more 'natural' for them than for us modern shooters.

MaxTorque

Regarding the Manual of Arms of when to bring the hammer to full cock, I've found that it is more fluid and easier to accomplish while bringing the rifle to my shoulder. Also, the Connecticut State Militia rifles were rebarreled to .45-70 apparently when Providence Tool was manufacturing the Peabody Martini in 577-450 and they used the same Alexander Henry pattern of rifling for both.

Planescaped

Oh wow, it's been so long waiting on a Peabody/Martini/Martini-Henry episodes that I forgot you still hadn't done them! Looking forward to this.

Guido Schriewer

it looks well thought through. niiiice sound! nice. compared... rolling block for simplicity. could compare to sharp or high wall though later but single shot and hammers.

Bruce Brodnax
>>85349532

The nature of many of the firearms of the transition period: everyone was accustomed to sidelocks, so it took awhile before they could wrap their head(s) around any other approach to ignition. Plus w/ the rapid rate of invention and copying regardless of patents, being first on the ground to market meant carving out a niche that could be sustainable for further development [as witness Peabody...] It's all part of what makes the few decades from ~1840-70 so interesting to me. The rapid advancements in materials [transitioning from bronze with critical pieces in wrought iron to almost complete composition in steel] and production ["American method of manufacture"] along with the fervid creativity [from increased opportunity & growth in England at the height of Empire and basic necessity in America] just make that period a simmeriing pot of invention. Fascinating!

Bruce Brodnax
>>85366307

The Lee was just too great of a cognitive leap for Army Ordnance, I think. Meanwhile, the Navy had a long history of trying out new technology by then [dynamite cannons, etc.] and were quite prepared to attempt "a better way" w/ the Lee Navy. Unfortunately, the runaway extractor & other issues would best have been resolved by the sort of extensive testing the Army habitually performed prior to fielding a new platform. And lest we forget, the Krag worked well within the original envelope of performance parameters: it was merely the realization that the Spaniards had a better deal going w/ the Mauser and trying to push the 30-40 Govt. past its inherent capabilities in the Krag platform [ie: the powers that were insisted on close to the same Vm as the Spanish Mauser, but were unwilling to drop the projectile weight below 200gr, "because horses..."] Bottom line: I blame it on the adversarial nature of the politics vis a vis Army and Navy back then [and on thru most of the 20th century.]

Tim Black

That action strikes me as pretty brilliant… pun notwithstanding.//

Tim Black

“Throaty” chunky boi!

William Earle

I suggest that you add a comparison with the Trapdoor near the end of your video.