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Patron Release: Special (Patreon)

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2022-09-13 06:04:20
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Patron Release: Special

This is an early release to all patrons/supporters, please let us know if you spot any errors and we'll get them fixed for the public release. Once we release the public version in a week, we'll pull this one down, so all comments on this video will go away. Thank you for your support and we hope ya'll enjoy! Othais and Mae delve into the story of this classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration. C&Rsenal presents its Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday! Prints/patches/shirts from the show: https://candrsenal.com/shop/ Additional reading: The Revolver 1818-1865 The Revolver 1865-1888 The Revolver 1889-1914 A.W.F. Taylerson Geschichte und Technik der europäischen Militärrevolver Band 1 & 2 Rolf Müller Ammunition data thanks to DrakeGmbH https://www.youtube.com/user/DrakeGmbH/ Animations by Bruno! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTkD8fyZRgT5icMbKeMFEbQ https://candrsenal.com/primer-gallery/ Snail Mail/Contact us at: https://candrsenal.com/contact/

Comments

Sylvie & Pancakes

I just put my dollerdoo in. I wasn't expecting this at all. I just wanted to finally support you guys!

Uncle John Bulleit

Othais, since we are on the subjects of revolvers and research, why don't you design the perfect revolver for us. Tell us what features it would have, what kind of an action, caliber, etc etc. That would be a real treat for us.

Derek Putley

Othais, thanks for the update. This is really fascinating stuff. Because of the need to produce animations and because of your work to overhaul and shoot many of these old revolvers, I suspect that you are gaining very detailed knowledge and understanding of all the different lockwork designs. Other recent previous researchers may not have gone so deep there, so please don't beat your self up too much over all the knowledge gaps that you work is finding.

Minion

A comment from a university lecturer comes to mind: "I'm not here to give you answers, I'm here to get you to start asking questions." Love your work, Sasquatch.

Eric McKenney

I would argue that going back to the aforementioned episodes and either adding a note in the description or a pinned comment to the effect of "Additional information on these systems has come to light, episodes will be updated when it is fully compiled, researched, and verified" should meet any stickler's requirements for transperency, but also give you breathing room to finish the research and fully address it when able.

General Jack Ripper

If even the furthest reaching and most carefully presented reference books ultimately can't make heads or tails of the entire situation, I certainly don't blame you for having trouble with it. The revolving cylinder was such a far reaching mechanism that every tom dick and harry ended up making their own version of it, or derived parts of theirs from someone else, or just plain copied someone else without asking. That's the world of invention and engineering.

David K. Jernigan

Considering Belgium was invaded twice in the 20th century I could see that a lot of records may have been destroyed. Then there is how well were designs were documented since the Liege gunsmiths were not really brought together into a corporation until FN was established.

fi

And to think a year ago (or was it more like two) i thought something like this would come out of the yet to be realised shotgun series. Well this is how you get cought of guard - but not in a bad way.😅

Bendik Nilsen Bergendal

I just wanted to say that I really appreciate your commitment to getting the history of the revolvers as close to reality as possible. I know you do not have time to write in between everything else that you have been doing, but I think it would be great if all of this fantastic research could some day end up in a book-format.

fi
>>91532886

Is that not the french gign one that ian made some videos about? 😉 jk But i find the history behind the development much more interesting than the hypothetical best thing. A ranking of the existing designs would therefor be the way to go imho if you would go down that route.

Harry Mitts

What a rabbit hole you're falling into! I do applaud your intellectual honesty!

Drizzle

I was at an estate sale in a rather liberal part of town and as i was walking from room to room a woman stopped to read my shirt before giving me a scowl. Yes, friends, I was wearing my Cycle of Violence t-shirt, and it got just the reaction I was hoping for. I will continue to wear it in the hope of receiving others. Thanks.

James Kepler

Oh a modern revolver,. I really really want to know where and how the Rhino works. Anyway, you can't correct the errors until you know what is correct.

Tom Briggman

Others, it is most refreshing to find intellectual honesty. BRAVO SIR!!

Josh Hamrick

This whole episode just makes me think it's time for you to write a book. So... Congratulations!? Also, well done!

Tom Clark

This shows how you're working at this sweet spot of depth vs. breadth on firearms history that lets you find - and hopefully at some point solve - this problem.

Edward Sosta

Could The Chap possibly answer the nudge nudge wink wink call to arms?

Guido Schriewer

dived so deep in that rabbit hole maybe about time you put it together and write a book on the topic. ian book experience for a starting point?

John S Wren
>>91549556

The Belgian war office archive is a classic example of one of the problems facing any firearms researcher. It was stolen from occupied Belgium by the Wehrmacht in WW2 and taken to Berlin. In turn the Russians seized the documents from the ruins of the Reich and took them back to Moscow. The archive remained in Russia until 2002 when it was returned to Belgium, sadly depleted and in such a state of disarray that it took until 2012 for what remained to be properly catalogued by the Belgian archive service.

Robert Finley

I am impressed! (not all that hard to do but rarely stated.) OCD is truly the way of genius. You are delving into the "wild west" of mechanical invention, everybody and their siblings devised some kind of contraption. I have been actively interested in historic firearms for 60 years and have worked at both the USPTO and NARA, I have an inking of what you are up against, thank you and good luck!

Red Sky

an amazing amount of work, thank you. incorrect, only .... well I guess you can always add notes to the front of all the videos. wow

James Kepler

That's kinda the frustration about all this, arms development is so niche, its not like a car where you have mountains of engineers stabbing each other to get credit for every drop of credit and mountains of lawyers to sue for the slightest hint of infractions, You get nothing. The 1888 Commission Rifle makes the Manhattan Project seem as open as a father son chat, and out of a century old X-file coverup you were able to give some logical answers.