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Enjoy A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms 1x6 uncut!!

Uncut: https://thenormies.com/a-knight-of-the-seven-kingdoms/

Edited reaction will be on YouTube later today!!

What did you think of the finale? Would you look forward to a season 2?

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Sean Carleton

#SundayRundown I liked this episode as an epilogue to the season and a prologue to next season. GRRM is fully on board, so AKOTSK will likely go beyond the current three novellas. So, do we have the confirmation that Dunk was never knighted, especially with "Four pages?" Or did Ser Arlen continue after the story was finished? That Home Alone ending was hilarious.

Luke Drumm

You guys missed the credits song 😢

PurportedGrey

Once again, this was fantastic. Maekar is like an early Targaryen counterpart to Stannis in the books, rigid, stern, and utterly uncompromising, clearly shaped by personal tragedy. He’s a man hardened by loss, having lost his wife young and now carrying the guilt of accidentally killing his brother. Sam Spruell absolutely nailed the performance. Hopefully we’ll see more of him in S3, when they adapt 'The Mystery Knight'. He isn’t present in the original novella, but expanding his role would be a welcome change, especially to explore how he’s evolved in the three years since this event. Given how heavily involved George has been with the series, Ser Arlan’s scene is definitely aimed at book readers, a quiet reassurance that he will finish the books even if its the last thing he'll do. Which naturally feeds into the long-running fan theory that the books are already finished, or close to it, and will be released when George dies. Whether that’s true or not, the scene certainly invites the thought that he's not a "true knight" if he doesn't finish the story!

Macs

"I will probably subscribe to the Lord of Light" fucking hell Suraj you have no idea what you are saying, and I'm not talking about the tv show. LoL

PurportedGrey

I think my only real gripe with the episode is Lyonel’s monologue. It’s brilliantly delivered, but it feels misaligned with the Baratheon’s historical relationship to the Targaryen's at this point. While the book give us little insight into Lyonel’s personal views, the intensity of lines like “a good dragon is a dead dragon” suggests deep, generational hostility that doesn’t quite fit with what we know about the Baratheon's at this point. That sentiment would feel more natural coming from houses that genuinely suffered under Targaryen rule like the Fossoways or something like that, especially since the dynasty has only produced only 2 legit tyrants (Maegor the Cruel and Aegon IV, maybe Baelor the Blessed with his over zealous reign) out of 13 kings and queen, at this point in time. The Baratheon's, by contrast, ties to the crown have largely been stable, often advantageous, aside from what we see in the Dance (them siding with the Greens of course). Criticism of specific seen injustices makes sense, like Aerion doing an evil act or commenting on previous crazy acts like Baelor the Blessed's reign and such, but Lyonel’s tone carries a level of resentment more reminiscent of later figures like Stannis or Robert after Arys ordered their mom and dad on the voyage to find Rhaegar a wife where they crashed at the finish line of their trip, or houses with longstanding grievances like the Peake's, Ball's, Bracken's, and other that joined "The Black Dragon" 13 years ago, which feels harder to reconcile with Baratheon history at this stage.

Arctic_stark

The realm has just experienced two major Targaryen Civil Wars (Dance of the dragons and Blackfyre rebellion), each of which spread to every major House on the continent and got lots of people killed on either side. Both were unnecessary, and caused by nothing by Targaryen arrogance and ambition (atleast in the eyes of most people). Its not like some outside force has been invading. Like Raymun says, the Targaryens keep dragging everyone into their wars and all Houses have suffered at this point. There is just a lot of resentment towards Targaryens at this time. I dont think its personal animosity that Lyonel is feeling but just a general discontent.

Jaydelle

Loved this episode! I’m so glad Dunk’s conversation with Daeron is what ultimately persuaded him to speak with Maekar again and reconsider taking Egg back as his squire. He now has the opportunity to help shape a future king—just as Ser Arlan shaped him—giving Egg the chance to become a capable, wise, and truly great ruler of Westeros. Also, low-key, that final scene with Maekar asking for Egg loosely reminded me of Kevin’s mom realizing he was missing in Home Alone, lol. Fantastic first season—can’t wait for Season 2!

Michael Acuna

This was a really heartfelt finale, Egg is better off with Dunk, living with the common people and sleeping under the stars. And seeing Ser Arlan riding beside the duo, then parting ways, really got me crying! Also, Micky's point on apple medicine would be interesting.

James W.

I love Maekar, he is a good dude. Reminds me of how Tolkien described Aragorn "Looks foul but feels fair". He is grumpy but not a bad dude. I feel bad that he has to live with the guilt of killing his brother. I like the detail of Dunk digging the penny out of the pommel of Ser Arlan's sword and having that be the penny he pins to the tree. If this was the end of show, I would be fine with it but I am happy we get more Dunk and Egg. I believe they are already filming season 2 and I keep seeing snippets of Peter and Dexter, in costume and Peter has long hair but maybe I am conflating their images since the short and reels have been coming fast since the show popped off. (Edit: No spoiler but Egg doesn't maintain the incest thing, contrary to what someone on the couch was saying. I think Aerion's fate was one of those things spoiled in GoT, around season 2 iirc,)

Frankie H

#SundayRundown The puppet girl that Dunk had a crush on fled to Dorne, that's why Egg suggested going to there and why Dunk instantly agreed with Egg. Nobody on the couch mentioned that so I'd thought I'd mention it. So we might see her again. What I find interesting about Maekar Targaryen is that he's a bad father but self aware enough that he knows he's a bad dad. Apparently he was busy being a badass military general putting down rebellions and stuff. But he does seem to love his sons even Aerion. During the Trial of the 7 he went into rage mode when Aerion got hurt, shouting "MY BOY, MY BOY!" taking on both Baelor and Lyonel Baratheon. I think Suraj mentioned that. Then he sat by Aerion's bedside watching over him. So bad dad, kind of a dick, but not that bad for a Targaryen.

PurportedGrey

To be fair the Blackfyre Rebellion was more of the ambition of Bittersteel and Quentyn Ball and manipulating Daemon into rebelling (that's why that would be an amazing adaptation), but I agree with your point that there are elements of the Targaryen's reign that deserve the strife that came/is coming their way. It just felt weird that a Baratheon, one supposed to be jolly and eccentric, is saying this when they are like the furthest from trampled upon by the arrogance and ambition of the dragons. And to follow that up, you can call out perceived injustices while not being affected (that's one of main points of being a good person), but he's talking shit about the one guy George is saying can save the realm and right the ship for a better Kingdom, like Baelor was the most deplorable person. It's like Jesus getting shat on by one of the apostles or something right after he was crucified. I don't know, it just felt weird coming from him in that way for some reason. And even then it's 1 thing out of 50 other positives I have for the episode.😂

SergeTroy

I loved Maekar from beginning to end, starting with his gruff humor to his deepening personal tragedy and guilt. And while I 100% don’t believe he intended to kill his brother or bears any real responsibility (it was a battle royale and Baelor came in at the very end) it’s crazy that the blow that killed him smashed his helmet into the gorget on the back.

Chaos T

"A Knight of the Nine Kingdoms" title card was a great addition at the end of the episode 😂

PurportedGrey

It’s not crazy that it crumpled like that, that’s consistent with how helmets work. If the helmet isn’t properly sized, the clearance that would normally absorb and distribute the force isn’t there. Without that space, the metal has nowhere to deform except inward, which is why it collapses into the back of his skull instead of dissipating the blow and just making a normal dent like with Dunk's 4 or 5 blows to the head.

PurportedGrey

It would be hilarious If that's a permanent change or something, just keep making additions and changes based off of Aegon's knowledge and correcting Dunk all series long.

SergeTroy

Oh, so that’s one of the big areas where wearing his son’s smaller armor worked against him. I also read somewhere that blood circulation was a factor too? I do wonder if GRRM really researched all this about smaller armors on bigger men, or if he got a fair bit lucky. Though knowing history, it wouldn’t be shocking this exact incident happened before.

Darrell Henry

I don’t like them making it seem like Baelor was some kind of coward for fighting the Kingsguard. At this point the Kingsguard are the greatest knights in the Seven Kingdoms. Imagine prime Jaimie Lannister, Barristan Selmy and Arthur Dayne. If Baelor didn’t preoccupy them they would have cut through Dunk’s seven easily.

PurportedGrey

You hit the nail on the head about Valarr's comment! I'll have to check out the blood circulation part, but yeah, George is a massive historical realism nerd, along with his actual comics, movies, and TV nerdom. Everything he writes is grounded in meticulous research: how jousting actually worked versus the Hollywood spectacles we’ve been shown for generations, what someone like Dunk would realistically eat compared to a noble like Lyonel, how chainmail can stop a light stab but offers little protection against a lance, and so on. There are countless inspirations and layers of reasoning behind his work that would surprise anyone who hasn’t really dug in. It’s part of why he’s widely considered the second-best fantasy writer behind Tolkien. He’s also been a mentor to the authors behind The Expanse, who apply the same rigor to realism in their world-building, exploring hardcore, theoretical science in a way that feels fully lived-in.

Jacob Livingston

Egg is the father of the mad king. In the book egg was the grandfather but they changed it for the show. They skipped a whole generation of Targaryens in the show. And this will be coming out yearly. S2 in 27 am S3 in 28. Each season is based off of the 3 novellas. And George has already given an outline for like 10 more stories for future seasons past the first 3.

Rumaki21

The whole tourney was a birthday gift for the lady Ashford 13th nameday

Rumaki21

There are 7 kingdoms but 9 province's so technically their both right Dunk and Egg, The Iron Islands and the crown lands were apart of the kingdom of the Riverlands and the isle's before Aegons conquests afterwards they got divided.

SergeTroy

The Expanse was great for the first 5 books especially (loved the 5th & 6th (?) Nemesis Games). I felt the 20 year time jump, followed by what I remember as a 5 year time jump, didn’t do the series any favors. Interestingly, I thought the show did a better job with the first 4 seasons, while the books were superior for 5 and 6. And I don’t care what anybody says, I hope Naomi’s kid dies a horrible death in space.

GodUsopp

thats not what lyonel was saying, Lyonel was saying he fought the kingsguard who spent that whole time defending instead of fighting because they are sworn to protect him

GodUsopp

no the blackfyre rebellion was purely Aegon the 4ths fault

PurportedGrey

The fact that the rebellion erupted 12 years after Aegon IV's death shows it wasn’t simply a matter of the legitimizations or an inherent lust for the throne being the true catalyst. Longstanding rumors questioned Daeron’s parentage and some even questioned Viserys II’s line's legitimacy, which conveniently framed Daemon, as Daena the Defiant’s son, and Aegon III's grandson, as the one and only Targaryen heir. Fireball and Bittersteel spent years amplifying those claims to weaken Daeron’s Legitimacy. Despite that, Daemon and Daeron appear to have had a largely stable and amicable relationship for most of their lives even with Aegon trying to pit them against eachother early on, till the last few years before the rebellion. A more immediate source of tension was their sister Daenerys being sent to Dorne years before the war to cement Dorne's integration, rather than marrying Daemon as he requested. That decision, layered atop sustained factional influence and political ambition that Fireball and Bittersteel, and kther conspirators had, seems far more significant than the legitimization alone in pushing Daemon toward open opposition. Along with a little bit of Bloodrave possibly instigating the war by saying Daemon was about to rebel which led to Daron demanding his arrest. Ultimately, personal grievances and opportunism carried as much weight as questions of legitimacy. In that sense, Aegon IV’s actions was 1 catalyst, sure, that reshuffled the political order of the realm, allowing pride, rivalry, and ambition to ignite conflict over a decade later. It's like saying Robert's Rebellion was started because of the kidnapping, when that is categorically false, it's like 5 or 6 different things that led to that moment, starting all the way back during the Defiance of Duskendale.

Bob

god the stannis headcanon is strong. maeker would never burn his child alive

PurportedGrey

1. Yeah, Maekar definitely wouldn't burn any of his children. 2. I was referring to BOOK Stannis, whose situation is entirely different from the show portrayal up till the end of Book 5. He’s nowhere near Shireen currently, and the assumption that he will inevitably burn her (which George has confirmed she will be burned, but not by who), in Winds, is still speculative to a degree, and very unlikely to happen by his direct order. A more plausible situation is that Melisandre or Selyse could make that decision without him knowing, believing it necessary to break the blizzard trapping his army near Winterfell, while Stannis himself is hundreds of miles away from Castle Black thinking his daughter is safe and sound. More broadly, sharing personality traits doesn’t imply identical actions. Temperament and choices are not the same thing. Multiple Targaryens throughout the 284 years of their reign resemble Baelor Breakspear in character amd personality (dutiful, principled, restrained), without following the same path or performing the same actions as he did. Similar disposition does not equal identical behavior.

Chaos T

@PurportedGrey I would love that. Dunk being the hero while simultaneously being us, the audience, absorbing GoT lore.

Mzuka

They’re clearly going back on that for this show and sticking to the book lore, Egg’s story doesn’t make sense if Aerys is his child. Half the conflict of the later seasons will come from Egg’s children and their marriages, including a big one with Lyonel.

Mzuka

It’s not the show, it’s Lyonel’s perspective which is coloured by his dislike of the Targaryens. Baelor definitely did put less at risk but it was still dangerous (clearly).

Jacob Livingston

Except they aren’t going back on that. The ages of aemon and everybody wouldn’t match up, they made the change for the show. They have made a ton of other changes from the books this season as well

PurportedGrey

I think you might be onto something, Mzuka. We probably won’t know for sure unless the show reaches the point where Egg has a whole generation of children in Kot9K and they aren't named Aerys or Rhaella, or HBO eventually remakes GoT years down the line with the lore they've built up over the decades with these other shows. Overall, these newer series have shown far more respect for the books’ lore and sense of scale (with some exceptions *cough* HotD S2 *cough*) than GoT did (especially post Gelrge leaving), so it wouldn’t be shocking if we eventually see Jaehaerys II’s generation is a thing in future lore like a Nine Penny Kings show or something else. And even if nothing ever changes officially, there’s always the time-honored solution: just head-canon that shit out like.😂

Jacob Livingston

If egg is the grandfather to him then it would be impossible for aemon to be in GOT. He’s already old as shit this would make him that much older. They’re sticking with what they did and changed from the show already. It would make zero sense to change that back. Maekar not letting egg go with dunk was already a change from the book. And from book readers it’s a huge change that potentially messes up future conflicts down the road. And the show runner Ira Parker’s response to it? “We’ll deal with those consequences when they get there”

Chris K.

Lyonel said: Come to Storm's End! Don't go to King's Landing. Come to my house. It's so private. We're gonna have so much fun, no one will know...

PurportedGrey

*gasp* there's an age difference of 4 years. In the books Aemon was born in 198, in the show he's born in 202. So he's not 102 starting out big woop, he winds up being older than that when he dies, the show end in 311 or 310.😂 You're talking like it's 15 year difference or something. Either way that has nothing to do with getting rid of a generation like they did. The only answer there is, is that It's just another instance of D&D being lazy in the world building just like all the other instances that are out there.

Mzuka

You’re speaking with so much certainty but you’re not thinking practically. It would be waaaay easier and make more sense to just ignore one throwaway line by Maester Aemon than trying to rewrite George’s story to accommodate D&Ds sloppiness. Same way there wasn’t a hint of the Blackfyres in GoT but they’re prominent here: if they can make changes from the source material, you bet they’re not beholden to the show that got 💩 on. You need Egg’s real kids to tell rhe story from the books: Duncan Targaryen is the reason Lyonel raises Storm’s End in rebellion. That leads to Rhaelle marrying into their House and the Baratheons having a claim to the throne. If we skip a generation are you saying Robert is born to Rhaelle instead of Steffon? Cause that screw the whoooole timeline of the rebellion up. More simply, if Aerys is born to Egg how old would he have been in the main story? It would completely ruin any Robert’s Rebellion storyline. Aerys is a contemporary to Tywin. They’re friends: the War of the Ninepenny Kings, Duskendale, all of the lead to the rebellion. We know that George gave Ira Parker the outline for the rest of the stories, and we can assume HBO wants to produce more shows in this universe. I don’t see why you’re even caping for such a pointless and restrictive change, how does it even affect GoT if they make this change?

Mzuka

Oh and the change with Egg getting permission does not at all mess up future conflicts down the road, again just takes a little bit of thought. The Sworn Sword is the next book but they have a whole adventure in Dorne before then, so it wouldn’t break canon for there to be some sort of pursuit and resolution in a season based there. There’s actually plenty of room in the book canon for something like this to happen because Maekar doesn’t explicitly give Dunk permission; he walks out, and the next day Egg is there ready to go with him. It’s implied that he assented but it isn’t stated explicitly. The only explicit approval we have from Maekar is in the third novella, which is where Egg has his boot with the royal get-out-of-jail-free card. The fact he has this in the third story and not the second kind of implies that he and Dunk met Maekar or some sort of royal authority and got given this. Have you actually read the books?

Mzuka

PurportedGrey Ira Parker said George gave him the outline for the rest of the story which would be through to Summerhall (kind of makes sense given the inclusion of that prophecy for Egg). That means we will see Eggs children, and Aerys, one way or another cause they are all there. I just don’t see why they wouldn’t ignore one line instead of going to the effort to require the source material, it’s not like Egg being Aerys’ father was in anyway relevant to the show. What would this do to GoT? Just say Aemon had dementia or something. Moreover, who cares anyway? They already ruined that show.

PurportedGrey

I love that, Jon's mentor was just spouting nonsense that was taken as fact!🤣 That whole cell scene with Tyrion at the end is even funnier now. But joking aside, I agree!

Jacob Livingston

I don’t see how it would mess it up either but book readers are furious about that change bc they said it messes up future stuff

Jacob Livingston

Yeah George gave outlines for up to 10-12 stories. And is apparently currently writing more material for those stories. They want to age dunk and egg up naturally taking a little time off after the first 3 seasons an tell their whole life through adulthood I really hope we do get that. Would be awesome to see.

LucasHolliday

#SundayRundown this is for Spidey Marketa and Chris, Maekar didn't intentionally kill Baelor. He didn't even intend to injure him. He threw a wild aimless swing at a helm after he got whacked by a sword in the back and side. He likely has done that many times before in melees without crushing someone's skull. That helm did not correctly fit Baelor which Valarr indirectly stated when he said his dad died in his armor. Baelor's own helmet would have protected him better and prevented this. Lyonel would say that was more evidence to claim the gods showed disfavor with Baelor's decision to try to handle the Kingsguard. Baelor tried to leverage a privilege of his to his team's advantage, no matter how noble and good he was, Baratheon's point was only that it was fraudulent behavior. That's also why he ended up never fighting the Kingsguard at all during the trial, the whole time he instead had to focus only on Maekar.

LucasHolliday

#SundayRundown Egg will be Grandfather to the Mad King, not his father. In GoT season 1 they made a mistake in the writing when Maester Aemon states to Jon Snow that he was tempted to leave the Night's Watch when he heard they killed his brother's son, and his poor son, and the children, referring to Aerys, Rhaegar, and his heirs. But in the books there is a generation between Egg and Aerys.