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AvatarConner

#SundayRundown So to the point Chris asked at the end, about when is it ok to kill, typically superhero’s don’t kill. But with stuff like the MCU showing our heroes killing every single movie that’s kind of fallen by the wayside in larger media. But in comics, they don’t kill, Kirkman uses invincible to explore the realism that comes with being a superhero. Angstrom threatened Mark’s family, so we don’t really hold that against him. Concquest was such a big threat that he needed to be handled. But the last two, Dinosourarus, Rus, are innocent people who aren’t in control of the terrible things they do. And now we have Titan, someone who has been getting away with bad things and who has endangered not only mark but his brother in his gang war. These are all different facets of superhero comics, do you kill the kingpin? Do you kill the hulk after a rampage? Do you kill venom from Spiderman? It’s a hard answer. And then! You have Nolan, someone who has committed WORSE atrocities than all these guys, and we’re seeing that he’s trying to redeem himself, which if Nolan can be redeemed, why not all the people I just mentioned?

PurportedGrey

This is one of the reasons I love this comic/series so damn much, even when you see the same villains repeatedly pop up, it's never stale or feels unnecessarily repetitive. They always come back in different scenarios or they've adapted to fight the heroes better in some way!

Ren Davis

Suraj, you are correct. Zachary Quinto was replaced with Ross Marquand. Quinto had scheduling conflicts and Marquand already voiced Rudy (among other characters) so it was a natural choice to have him do the Robot voice (although I miss Quinto 😭) Also when Rana and Chris were talking about the other Invincibles they meant that Cecil ordered the dead alternate Invincibles to be turned into Reanimen. Mark doesn’t know about that. To answer your question about Brit, he is indestructible. Virtually nothing can break him. In RPG terms, he’s like if you dumped all your skill points into constitution to make the toughest tank on Earth. Flaxans first appeared in Season 1 Episode 2.

Ren Davis

I do like that Kirkman has the Claremontian (reference to Chris Claremont, quintessential X-Men writer) sensibility of constantly bombarding his characters with shit from all sides. There’s always multiple things going on. The multiple subplots make us feel the same pressure that Mark feels. That same crippling sense of anxiety at the potential horrors to come and feeling overwhelmed with the constant threats. Robot feels the same way as he also mildly breaks down with Amanda about the inefficiency of relying on luck and how they need to create more permanent solutions. It’s good shit 😎

Macs

the Holy Fuck Tom Tom track was perfectly timed.

Shihi

#SundayRundown To me, it feels like this season they're asking a question: What line will you cross to keep your people safe? Mark killed the astronaut to keep the sequids from taking over, fully breaking his no kill rule to keep humanity safe. The Viltrumites did atrocities to keep their people safe, just at the perceived threat they posed. Now, Mark's nearly killing Titan to keep his brother safe over the potential threat he may pose. Everyone's crossing the line, so it'll be interesting to see whether anyone says no and holds the line.

Macs

its "realistic" which is what kirkman I think was always going for, you don't just have some enemy or plot point show up and then its never part of the story again, the only thing that wasn't was not-hellboy and apparently he's doing it this season

Macs

the couch trying to figure out whats going to happen to robot and monster girl is killing me, lmao, you guys should know robert kirkman at this point. It is not going to go down as simple as you want it to.

christopher

Yea guys its ok to kill, it's ok for people with power or power to kill. No real world implacations happening here.

PKKite

So there are therapists for super heros Cecil was just offering that to Mark but you were talking about Cecil being bad when he was doing so. Cecil has shown in the past too that he wants the heros to be mentally well for safety. Its why he gave The Immortal time off when he thought his GF Duplicate was dead and he let Immortal leave the team STILL even during the invincible war. He would rather a hero quit then spiral down mentally.

PKKite

We've even seen properties explore this like having Kingpin dispatched it leads to a power vacuum that could lead to worse villains taking territory over or chaos in general. Some villains tow a line like Machine Head in being a stable evil that yes you can stop their plans to steal money or tech ect, but they are at least not trying to blow up new York.

Step B.

Everything that Chris was saying about Mark in the discussion is exactly why Cecil does what he does. Obviously we know (well I know as a comic reader what Mark will and won't do but) what Mark might do as our protagonist of the story, but Cecil does not. Mark is literally the strongest thing on the planet; just 2 seasons ago was hard set on not killing and "bad" people should be locked up and now he's constantly contemplating whether he should or shouldn't kill someone. He's closer to slipping to being his dad now than he ever was before even though he's not evil or close to turning but it is a very slippery slope Mark is on and Cecil is very aware of it. I find it strange that there are people (not y'all) that call Cecil selfish and controlling in this scene. Also using the alterative Marks as Reanimen is a smart decision Reanimen are like the only things on Earth that have actually given Mark and Nolan trouble. They're way more valuable than the Bums of the Globe lmao

AvatarConner

I think it’s also kind of just, these guys are used to superhero movies where there’s time psssing between stories they don’t see or think about. Whereas invincible is like a comic and there’s always something else. Like Spiderman will be stopping crime every single day while the avengers are off doing their thing, daredevil is handling Hell’s Kitchen, and the fantastic four are saving reality with super science or something. This is what it’s really like to live in a comic book.

AvatarConner

Yeah and bitt is JUST indestructible. No enhanced strength or anything.