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Cyrill_JJK

CLUB GOIN UP, ON A TUESDAY!

ROSE 🌹

Why does it feel like they're all ganging up on him over his relationship with her? I've never done group therapy, but I'd feel so uncomfortable being put on the spot like that. It might even make me want to leave! I understand the no romantic relationships rule for the first year, but friendships aren't allowed either? Sometimes having a friend who understands exactly what you're going through can be a really good thing.

Wes_Lee

Having been involved with addicts a lot, I do get the sentiment of not getting close to recovering addicts as them falling off the wagon happens often and would affect the other. But I do agree it also seems like a strong reaction that would ultimately isolate them

Callie

It's crazy how rigor mortis and withdrawal have similarities; stiffness and cold.

Steffi H.

The situation during dinner wasn't just Luke's imagination—it was a memory. You just missed the caption that said “2 months ago”

jenna of house bush 🍒

like paige said, "lean too hard on another addict..." addiction treatment is supposed to be an individual journey but making friends is human nature. if you're in a therapy centre you're going to make connections with other addicts, the tricky part for some people is drawing proper boundaries.

Allie

I thought it would click when Luke said “30 days clean” at the end of that scene when we know that in present day he’s 90 days clean so I’m glad you cleared that up here!

Allie

It’s a twin thing ☹️

Amos Smith

the dinner with steve and luke was two months prior. it said in sandy text at the bottom right st the start of the scene

Audrey

Like others have said, you missed the part when Joey and Luke were having dinner with Steve and Leigh where it said "two months ago". So it wasn't a dream, it was a flashback to the last time Luke had been in that house. And yes, Luke wasn't feeling cold because he was in withdrawal, because we saw that he didn't go back to using, but he was instead feeling what Nell was feeling (cold, stiff) without knowing that she was already dead. It's a twin thing, after all.

Ali O

As an addict myself, I noticed specifically that Luke sees the tall man when he sees access to drugs (when he sees Joey's dealers, and when he sees Joey has cash left), or if he's just craving drugs (he kept showing up as Luke's day got more and more hopeless). It's my personal theory that the drugs made the ghosts go away and that's why Luke uses so much, he can't face them I also knew he wasn't stealing for drugs in the first episode because Steve offered to let him keep his camera to sell, but Luke gave it back. If he was buying, he'd want as much as he could get

Jake

0:45 Nick is an addict?? 😯

sk8star

omg i’m so dumb i just realized that the reason that he feels cold and stiff is bc nell is dead 🤦‍♂️

Kyle Lawson

I'm a recovering alcoholic with 3 years of sobriety now. I know it seems cruel to say no personal relationships with other addict (specifically in the early stages of your recovery) but it truly is the best way. Its so easy to develop the "we are in this together" mindset and literally hang your sobriety on someone else. It's happened to me before where my friend broke his sobriety and i just jumped ship with him almost immediately. You have to understand that in those early days us addicts are looking for any and every excuse to relapse. It's like making a promise to your friend that you'll run a marathon together with no prior experience but swear that if one person quits that the other should keep going. In theory that sounds easy enough. Until you are on mile 18 and you are hurting, sweaty, tired, and looking for any reason to stop running. Well then your friend quits and you just use that as an excuse to call it quits as well. Except with addiction you cant just walk away from the marathon and never return. It's a constant cycle. Sooner or later you have to return to run that marathon, and it is your responsibility to make sure you are prepared and mentally ready for it. Even if that means you have to leave your friend behind.

rue

"Nobody can make you feel something". Actually. The mind is quite powerful. Emotional pain is equivalent or worse to physical pain. Unfortunately, the way 12 Steps is done can be extremely painful in various ways. Also, you should not be trying to be unkind to someone you know is actively working to better themselves. He was not being "honest" ; he was being unkind. Just because the target is an addict does not give him free willy-nilly freedom to be mean to him. Cut him out or treat him like a human being. There is no second-class for the people you choose to keep in your life.