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Extra Ammo: Is Elden Ring Too Hard? (Patreon)

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2024-07-04 05:50:15
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2026-06

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Cai

To Chris’s point on difficulty modes, there was a service selling simplified versions of classic literature. They basically turn difficult sentences into the most basic form of their meaning. If you read the simplified version of war and peace, did you really read it? If you’re really struggling with a book, use a guide, ask for help, take your time. Don’t force the art to fundamentally change for you.

Empire Ants

Fun fact: ive beaten the DLC twice!

Ham Lam

What the hell. Difficulty modes are for their for people who want to experience the story honestly I love the way that games are aside from stuff like ninja garden/DMC where the difficulty enhances the experience

Ham Lam

In DS you are the challenger to the developer of DS not building up to harder versions of the game as it gets harder if you wanna screensavers just mod the bitch

Ham Lam

Wait wait wait hahaha did Derick just say that the easier versions were the base vanilla versions when? Chris just explained that the creators make the hard versions the base version

LR INT Kid Buu

Chris’s autism showed when talking about Halo I love it

LR INT Kid Buu

I’m still on my first run lmao I’m getting dog walked

Empire Ants

It helps that I have 1500 hours, but try bleed!

Reviving jordan Peterson with 400 pigeon calves

I am so pissed that I’ve never completed a single destiny raid. Never had friends that played destiny and I remember playing with randoms and we always never made it past the first half. Definitely an experience missed, hopefully I can do at least one before I’m dust.

Liliy sold me Jenkem

Normally i disagree with derrick but he's exactly right here and chris, regardless of how academic he tries to frame it, is gatekeeping. Developer's intended way to play is fine, but if that intended way to play is prohibitively difficult, that is, regardless of the developer's intentions, gatekeeping. That's exactly why most games have a strongly recommend difficulty, and a story difficulty.

the carefree cum catcher

Yo what if someone has fucked motor skills you dick, they'd medically NEED an auto aim to enjoy cod you ablist

Kaleb

There’s been so many souls games at this point if the devs wanted an easy mode there would be one. I feel like complaining that elden ring doesnt have an easy mode would be the same complaint that doom doesnt have an insta-kill mode. If the devs didnt put it in the game whats the point in bitching about what-ifs.

Saddest Substance

I mean, then so be it though. If difficulty and overcoming challenges is a design-priority and some people don't find enjoyment in that, then that's fine. Some creatives don't want to compromise and make watered down versions of their stuff and that's fine too.

Clark

are the Chris and Derrick solo episodes still coming?

Stratman

"Pandering resembles erosion: Grand ideas like towering mountains, erode into accessible but diminished forms. Initially these ideas, pure and monumental become mountains through expression, enabling others to perceive them. Yet as demands for broader accessibility grow. Like relentless rain, they sculpt the peaks into gentler hills and eventually, valleys and canyons. THis erosion while making the mountains more accessible strips away the beautifully rigid peaks. At the canyon's base, the view spans wide, offering superficial understanding without deeper engagement. The hiker who navigates the mountain's original rugged terrain, though seeing less, grasps it's true nature far beyond any canyon bitch" Arctic eggs

AllHandsOnDick

People who say "you didn't really play the game" Because they didn't play it at hard, need to be scalped and shot.

Backshot Kyle

You should call this show "Extra Penis"

UK Rap battles be like, Your rhymes are rubbish, and your TROUSERS look SSHTYEW-pid

Let's be honest. It isn't people with missing fingers asking for easy mode. It's entitled, inept losers who will constantly expect to be catered to. Yes, it ruins the experience for the rest of us. You have to plan for multiple difficulty modes and thus have to water down the base game. See Diablo 3 and Mega Man 10. BrolyLegs (RIP) did Chun Li combos in SF4. Stop whining.

Sween hit the Pentagon

At the end of the day, unless you are a content creator or a journalist, these are just video games. They are pieces of entertainment. Someone playing on easy mode or with offline trainers does not affect someone else's experience playing on harder difficulties and if it really bothers you that much then you need reevaluate your own ego and mentality. Average consumers like me have jobs and personal lives outside of gaming and we can't sink dozens of hours at a time in a single sitting and we don't want to spend weeks or months on a single game. Easier options ensure that I can have a more relaxed experience with more of a guarantee that I'll see it to the end. If Elden Ring got an easy mode I probably wouldn't play it but it being there won't affect my experience playing normally. Seeing how many people gatekeep pieces of entertainment is sad honestly but it's also hilarious how miserable your life must be that people enjoying a game differently bothers you that much.

Olympic gold medal mental gymnist

I love that fromsoft is ok with you missing things. They are so confident that whatever it is that you do find is good enough to satisfy you.

Wonder_Eyes

To add onto the Star Wars "immersion break" (i.e Fat Jedi controversy), the Jedi Council literally had an alien with a long, ass 2 feet neck named Yareel Poof and some snake like Jedi Master in Episode 2...both were on the Jedi Council.

The_Domo_Nation

Love that accessibility is being conflated as difficulty when they are not the same thing

Rat Pobertson

Super disappointing to see that Derrick doesn't know what gatekeeping is. I think he may have usurped Sweeny as the king of bad takes.

Rat Pobertson

The one thing about the whole "fat jedi" argument is everyone defaulting to aliens as an argument. Like, do you think of overweight people as a different species?

UnnamedDrone

What's the point of playing a shooter if there's auto aim though?

UnnamedDrone

This argument boils down to whether or not you think the artist should have the final say on their art. No one expects directors to make multiple versions of a movie so more people can enjoy it. The experience you get is the same as everyone, and if it touches a topic that makes you uncomfortable then maybe it isnt for you. No shame in it.

Urethra Burglar

It really isn't gatekeeping to say something isn't for everyone. Accessibility is allowing everyone to play the game (color blind options, support for controllers that disabled people need to play) not easy modes and settings that hand you the victory. Speaking from experience here if you are put on an easy mode it genuinely takes away from the experience, happened with me trying to play elden ring and my friends forcing me to play seamless co-op with them and they're great at the game. Ran through the first 5 bosses in one try and it was so boring, it kind of ruined them for me.

Eric

100%

Cum tributing a photo of Muhammad, Fatwa speed run

Just dismissing people disagree with your opinion as being egotistical is such a massive cop out. I don’t agree, and I’m part of the group of people that physically can’t play Fromsoft games, I have hand problems, and playing games like them is just too painful. That’s is 100% my problem, it’s not up to the developers of the game to make a product that they don’t want to make, just to cater to me, you, or anybody else. You don’t want to sink time into a hard game? That’s completely fair enough, don’t do it then. If a game comes with a difficulty slider, that’s not a problem, but it’s also not a problem if it doesn’t, and complaining about it is entitled as fuck.

Twink Floyd

Anytime anyone on this podcast has an unpopular opinion, the comments call for their death. I love it.