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Gym broboy

HIIIIIIIIIIIIIII GUUUUUYS!!!!!!

Gym broboy

GOOD MOORNING VIETCUUUUUM!!!!

Give trans women all your money

Ive seen a lot of people deny the identity of transwomen because they happen to be bad people. This podcast did it with Chris Chan a long time ago. Hopefully, this time is different.

Bert Chintus

“It was a bunch of fat chicks, not the hot fat chicks” is amazing

Tyler Robinson

My dick is now perfectly fine, thanks for asking!

my cat is transphobic

i might just be sensitive to this because im trans but it felt like Chris didn't really try to gender her right. like he apologized at first, which was great, but then he just didn't really seem to care.

darklord anri

derrick is more an ally than chris is i can say that for sure

darklord anri

chris is so cool he doesnt care about anything on some nonchalant type i wonder what hes thinking fr 👨‍💻🗣

Sween Slamming Messenger Pigeons Into Fax Machines

JD Vance is starting side quest culture wars nobody even thought could happen. He said parents should have more voting power than childless voters AND that he is against no fault divorces. There’s no way anyone including most of his own party asked for that.

Francis AB

i figured that he got a lot of the information on the situation through a twitter search. since a lot of the people talking about it in the twitter search are misgendering her, his brain associated her with male pronouns. i got the impression that he was ranting without thinking, so he defaulted to the pronouns most of the other people were using. or maybe i should stop making excuses for a guy i dont know and accept that he doesnt give a fuck

Cruelty-free Pleatherface with electric chainsaw

Hmm. Well, I’d say that using someone’s preferred pronouns is a show of respect for that person, so if you didn’t respect them? It’s like, is it possible to selectively disregard a specific trans person’s pronouns to show disrespect while not being transphobic overall? I think maybe you can, because it’s not that you are disrespecting the person because they are trans, but because they are a bad person and it’s an easy way to do so.

DeepCreases

@Basted and Boogiepilled - I just wanna personally ask people who think like this if they think they can morally call OJ the hard r

Cruelty-free Pleatherface with electric chainsaw

No, but I don’t think your hypothetical really works as well as you might think. A more accurate hypothetical would be, “If OJ was a transracial white man, would it be okay to call him the hard R?” (which honestly is a hilarious thought lol) But another thing is that the N word and man/woman (depending on ftm or mtf trans) are not equal at all.

Gym broboy

I think the hypothetical works; not because they're directly parallel, but rather they both are examples of hurting someone with unnecessary and immoral means. I personally feel it's best not to engage with hateful speech or behavior, even if it's at the expense of a terrible person. The reason is simply because it causes unnecessary damage to groups that didn't deserve it. Like calling OJ the n-word just kinda normalizes using the term in a derogatory way. Same goes for misgendering; whether or not it's on the same level of disrespect as the n-word is irrelevant as misgendering just kinda promotes that overall behavior of being transphobic even if it's used for "a noble cause". Even though Ava deserves a lot of mocking and criticism, I think going after her gender isn't the best course of action. As it causes unnecessary splash damage. Also there's much funnier ways to dunk on her than misgendering. I personally find misgendering child's play when it comes to the art of disrespect.

Cruelty-free Pleatherface with electric chainsaw

I totally get where all of you are coming from. I am very aware of the sort of unintended consequences of misgendering in this situation. To be clear, it’s not something I’ve ever done intentionally, this whole thing was just thinking stuff out in a place where it’s safe to do so. Hope you all understand I was in total good faith and I just like to think about stuff. The world is messy and full of nuance!

Frank G.

"Say his real pronouns please she used to be a guy" fucken wild ass correctionist out there 😂

Cruelty-free Pleatherface with electric chainsaw

Yeah, definitely not. No idea why anyone would misgender a cis person…? But yeah, I totally agree with you. It would be about being a dick to someone and picking on a trait of theirs. The downside is that the wrong people may witness that behavior and misconstrue it as generalized transphobia, and plenty will argue that it is, regardless of the intent. I kinda think of it like this: if I have a friend or someone I agree with who has a big ass nose, like a SHNOZ, I just ignore that, no need to be mean or bully anyone. But if that person turns out to be a POS, it would be a very easy target. It’s just a matter of wanting to be a dick. Anyway, yeah, I agree.

Empire Ants

That's fuckin dire goddamn

Capricious Rizzard

Wasn't the Chris Chan thing bc they were legit confused about if they were actually Trans bc Chris Chan said some shit about wanting to be a woman to get with lesbians or something?

Bale

Everyone talking about Chris fuckin up the pronouns are demonstrably stupid. Clearly he isn't ill-intentioned towards trans folk you plonkers. Lobotomise yourself

Empire Ants

Hey, nobody said he was ill-intentioned (obviously). Still a really weird thing to fuck up in 2024 lmao

Francis AB

chris chan is a weird case. from what i can remember, there were signs from the beginning that they had gender dysphoria, but also signs that they were manipulated into transitioning. i usually just go with whatever pronouns a person wants, but with chris chan i always default to gender neutral.

Give trans women all your money

Got around to finishing the podcast. I gotta admit, if thats really the extent of what Ava did, I feel bad calling her a bad person. Whatever, the witch hunt begins and she's trans, so even "centrist" people will eat her alive.

Empire Ants

You seem like the most in need of grass touchage here tbh

Empire Ants

@Bale Also no I've never misspoke and called a woman a man. Skill issue ig

Bale

If he has no ill-will where is the problem? You never missopke before? You lot are being pedantic af

Rat Pobertson

To be fair, it's hard to consider allyship as unconditional at all while trans folks continually make new conditions or standards for allyship to begin with.

Francis AB

could you elaborate?

Francis AB

im a trans person who didnt think he necessarily had any ill will, but with how things have been going for trans people over the past few years i cant blame other trans people for being cautious or on edge. there's been a lot of people who've switched up their opinion on trans people seemingly out of nowhere. i can understand why people outside of the community might be annoyed, but you gotta look at it within the context of things.

Backshot Kyle

So can we agree that Mr beast looks like Thing one and Thing 2 from the live action Cat in The Hat movie

Josh F

No fault divorce bans is incredibly popular in a lot of conservative circles. A lot of Fundamentalists want it and so do some manosphere people, especially Stephen Crowder.

Smitchy enjoying his peenini

Argentina was basically the fourth reich so you saying si calling for the SS was really fucking funny

idkooooooooo

Beast mr was on sam hydes fishtanklive

Jocelyn

"Because I blow guys" by SuxaMan

Revli

I don’t get why Chris got all the hate on this when he’s clearly correcting himself and Derrick is making fun of her names

PapaGzeus

Yeah I was really disappointed that didn't turn into an Argentina joke

PapaGzeus

Glad to see another appreciator of "The Fresh Prince of DickButt"

Feverdream -

Wtf i have the same eyelash problem

Reviving jordan Peterson with 400 pigeon calves

Never cook again bro! You bout to burn the house down!!! Ava is an awful person if these allegations are true. Texting a 13 year old is BAD bro. You are not making yourself look good with these takes.